I know not many people bring up the "Slayer Logi" problem a whole lot these days, but I just had a sudden thought on a possible solution, so here we go. Apologies if someone already suggested something similar to this in the past. And since I know people hate the nerf hammer, I'm trying to keep it pretty light.

1) Give Logistics suits the same base armor and shields as the Assault suit of the appropriate race.

2) Adjust high and low slots so that Logis have one less total module slot than Assaults of the same race for each tier.

3) Adjust CPU and PG to be more in line with Assaults, or potentially even slightly less.

4) Change the base Logi suit bonus to: 5-10% reduction to Equipment fitting costs per level.

5) Give the Logistics dropsuits themselves a base armor repair rate, scaling with tiers (1 HP/S at Standard, 3 HP/S at Advanced, 5 HP/S at Prototype).

And that's it. WIth this in place, Logis could no longer out-tank or out-damage Assaults, but also wouldn't be left completely gimped HP-wise. They could still fit modules and weapons as they please, but with the reduced CPU and PG and the new bonus, Logis would be much more equipment and support based. But I'm ok with Logis keeping that passive armor repair; let the guys who heal everyone else be able to heal up themselves.

So, what's everyone think?

Stop with the "OP Logi" BS. They aren't nearly as good as everyone thinks they are. They can typically survive a -+ second longer than assaults under fire. Big deal.

logi problems

1.bonus is op
2.way too many slots
3.too much pg cpu

solution
1.change bonus to equipment pg/cpu reduction
2.-1 slot on each suit high or low depending on suit
3.lowered significantly

the thing is going head to head they should die to an assault(assuming no other variables) that 1/4 second is a win in a head to head gun fight+the logi can fit better dmg mods so yeah

No, assaults shouldn't get an iwin button when they find a Logi 1v1.

Assaults shouldn't be able to take more damage, do more damage and be faster than Logis. That isn't balanced.

Assaults should be able to do more damage than a Logi, but Logis should be able to take more damage than an assault. Change the Assaults Bonus to +2% damage per level, or give them a fitting reduction to Damage Mods. Fixed.

Someone's gonna need to explain this to me, but why shouldn't Assault suits out damage, tank, and speed Logis? Really, why not? Where's the logic? Why should the supportive/healer character have more HP than the frontline soldier? Why does that make sense? I get that Logis get shot at, so does everyone else. But it doesn't really make sense to me that the support guy out-tanks the frontline guy. I mean, TTK is too short right now, but that affects everyone, and it's a separate issue.

Someone's gonna need to explain this to me, but why shouldn't Assault suits out damage, tank, and speed Logis? Really, why not? Where's the logic? Why should the supportive/healer character have more HP than the frontline soldier? Why does that make sense? I get that Logis get shot at, so does everyone else. But it doesn't really make sense to me that the support guy out-tanks the frontline guy. I mean, TTK is too short right now, but that affects everyone, and it's a separate issue.

i never said anything about damage or tanking
also that dmg bonus would be op, 1% bonus damage tops and dont make the bonus for dmods because that would screw cal and mims

logis should also be faster (yet with less ehp and dmg) than assaults

I know not many people bring up the "Slayer Logi" problem a whole lot these days, but I just had a sudden thought on a possible solution, so here we go. Apologies if someone already suggested something similar to this in the past. And since I know people hate the nerf hammer, I'm trying to keep it pretty light.

1) Give Logistics suits the same base armor and shields as the Assault suit of the appropriate race.

2) Adjust high and low slots so that Logis have one less total module slot than Assaults of the same race for each tier.

3) Adjust CPU and PG to be more in line with Assaults, or potentially even slightly less.

4) Change the base Logi suit bonus to: 5-10% reduction to Equipment fitting costs per level.

5) Give the Logistics dropsuits themselves a base armor repair rate, scaling with tiers (1 HP/S at Standard, 3 HP/S at Advanced, 5 HP/S at Prototype).

And that's it. WIth this in place, Logis could no longer out-tank or out-damage Assaults, but also wouldn't be left completely gimped HP-wise. They could still fit modules and weapons as they please, but with the reduced CPU and PG and the new bonus, Logis would be much more equipment and support based. But I'm ok with Logis keeping that passive armor repair; let the guys who heal everyone else be able to heal up themselves.

So, what's everyone think?

Stop with the "OP Logi" BS. They aren't nearly as good as everyone thinks they are. They can typically survive a -+ second longer than assaults under fire. Big deal.

So you want to nerf the logis and buff the assaults.The current TTK and the new uber weapons makes this game more like COD and you still want more killing power for the assaults while gimping the logis .This topic has been addressed so many times in the past but still they pop up.Support logis need the extra slots, Cpu, pg etc to run a viable suit. A slayer will use any suit to get an edge over the next merc, so why would it matter which suite they should use? These posts have a nefarious undertone and seem to be going after the support logis due to the fact that sometimes we score higher on warpoints.Are bruised egos a good reason to nerf the support logis out of existence? Your attempts to make it look other wise are feeble at best.I wish you the wisdom to contemplate all of the consequences before making suggestions that may have repercussions that extend beyond your solutions.

Not against the 1st 2, but I don't think they're needed; if that was done, then logis would need to have the same base speed and stamina as the assaults. I agree with the equipment fitting cost bonus, but not the PG/CPU nerf.

I would rather have bonuses changed.

Assaults should get bonuses to fitting weapons, and a racial bonuses to enhance their race's bonuses (like the Amarr assault's).

Logis should bonuses to fitting equipment (not armor repair, they have an extra low slot for an extra repairer anyway), and racial bonus should be for an equipment.

Things like HP/repair bonuses belong on sentinels. Equipment bonuses belong on logis. Weapon bonuses belong on assaults. Scan/stealth and biotic bonuses belong on scouts.

Stop with the "OP Logi" BS. They aren't nearly as good as everyone thinks they are. They can typically survive a -+ second longer than assaults under fire. Big deal.

but considering their role... id remove the light weapon slot. true logis dont need them cause theyre too busy doing their jobs.