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Alena Ventrallis
The Neutral Zone
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Posted - 2013.12.28 19:54:00 -
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3500 damage. 0.5m radius.
Tank busters. |
zibathy numbertwo
Nox Aeterna Security
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Posted - 2013.12.28 19:56:00 -
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Yes.
Long Live Freedom; Long Live the Federation.
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Draco Cerberus
BurgezzE.T.F
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.28 20:46:00 -
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+1
LogiGod earns his pips
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.12.28 20:49:00 -
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But you only get 1 :P
And it takes 3 seconds to blow up from when you press the detonation button.
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And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior.
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Trey Hardin
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
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Posted - 2013.12.28 20:58:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:But you only get 1 :P
And it takes 3 seconds to blow up from when you press the detonation button.
That's not enough damage. How about they don't damage infantry
Veni Vidi Contrivi - I came I saw I Destroyed
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Alena Ventrallis
The Neutral Zone
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Posted - 2013.12.28 21:35:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:But you only get 1 :P
And it takes 3 seconds to blow up from when you press the detonation button.
In that case, buff damage to 8000. I think 3 should bust a stock tank, but if you insist on one, then only one should be a kill.
Trey Hardin wrote:That's not enough damage. How about they don't damage infantry
The 0.5m radius will ensure that only the very lucky or the very dumb will kill/be killed by them. And even if they do, nothing but a completely brick tanked proto heavy could survive a normal RE. What does it matter if you're instacloned by 1500 or 3500 damage? |
Kane Fyea
Scions of Athra
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Posted - 2013.12.28 21:54:00 -
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I fully support this idea. |
Kane Fyea
Scions of Athra
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Posted - 2013.12.30 08:24:00 -
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Bump |
Timothy Reaper
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
Top Men.
641
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Posted - 2013.12.30 08:29:00 -
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You stole my idea!
Just kidding!
+1
Please check out my thread too, so CCP gets the idea.
Here's a thread for a possible counter for remotes attached to vehicles.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
Mark Twain
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ALPHA DECRIPTER
Dragon-Empire
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Posted - 2013.12.30 09:01:00 -
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I see nothing wrong with this. +1
Scout Tactician
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Jason Pearson
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Posted - 2013.12.30 09:15:00 -
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So one explosive will take out my 500k tank?
Yeah, if this thing costs 50k a pop.
King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire.
Zaria for Miss Universe 2014
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Alena Ventrallis
The Neutral Zone
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Posted - 2013.12.30 09:22:00 -
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3 should pop your tank, unless hardeners are up. |
Ulysses Knapse
Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm
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Posted - 2013.12.30 09:32:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:3500 damage. 0.5m radius.
Tank busters.
3500 damage?
Having a single piece of equipment capable of one-shotting a vehicle isn't something I endorse.
Also, you stole the name from me. 
What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage?
The pile of garbage is more lethal.
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Alena Ventrallis
The Neutral Zone
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Posted - 2013.12.30 09:49:00 -
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Not "stolen" but "tactically acquired"
Honestly it just made sense to me with how maning conventions in the game go. breach means less range, higher damage.
Numbers can fluctuate, but the goal is 3 of them can pop a tank with no hardeners up. maybe even just 2 if its militia/doesn't have any hp extenders. |
Ulysses Knapse
Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm
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Posted - 2013.12.30 09:54:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:Not "stolen" but "tactically acquired"
Honestly it just made sense to me with how maning conventions in the game go. breach means less range, higher damage.
Numbers can fluctuate, but the goal is 3 of them can pop a tank with no hardeners up. maybe even just 2 if its militia/doesn't have any hp extenders.
3 x 3500 = 10,500
That's far more than necessary.
What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage?
The pile of garbage is more lethal.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2013.12.30 10:28:00 -
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+1
Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of the threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
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Ulysses Knapse
Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm
939
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Posted - 2013.12.30 10:39:00 -
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Why are people liking this thread? It's asking for is an overpowered piece of equipment that would one-shot almost any unhardened vehicle, and two-shot the rest of the unhardened vehicles. No one is considering the possible balance issues? No one at all? I am disappointed, forumers!
What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage?
The pile of garbage is more lethal.
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Timothy Reaper
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
Top Men.
641
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Posted - 2013.12.30 10:44:00 -
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Ulysses Knapse wrote:Why are people liking this thread? It's asking for is an overpowered piece of equipment that would one-shot almost any unhardened vehicle, and two-shot the rest of the unhardened vehicles. No one is considering the possible balance issues? No one at all? I am disappointed, forumers!
I think they're liking the general concept. That's why I gave it a like. I do think it's to powerful, but I'd like to get more discussion on the topic so CCP will pay attention.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
Mark Twain
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Ghermard-ol Dizeriois
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2013.12.30 11:44:00 -
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Ulysses Knapse wrote:Why are people liking this thread? It's asking for is an overpowered piece of equipment that would one-shot almost any unhardened vehicle, and two-shot the rest of the unhardened vehicles. No one is considering the possible balance issues? No one at all? I am disappointed, forumers!
I suppose you didn't come out of your tank since the first day of 1.7 then.
You must have missed the Ambushes with 5 enemy tanks patrolling the entire map, or their excessive number and easiness to use: even newbies can deploy a MLT tank and become a moderate threat for anyone who is not underground or high enough to be OOR of blaster cannons.
AV grenades are useless when hardners are on, not to mention SL where many people spent a lot of SP to reach lvl.5 and even addictional skills.
As a final note, tanks are extremely cheap, but to shoot one down you generally need something more than a BASE level loadout.
+1 on OP idea
If you're an hacker, a cheater o a glitcher, you deserve death. In real life.
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Kallas Hallytyr
Skullbreakers
215
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Posted - 2013.12.30 15:17:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:So one explosive will take out my 500k tank?
Yeah, if this thing costs 50k a pop.
I think you need to learn how to use your thrusters, since you're obviously trying to drive an Assault Dropship on the ground... 
But if that's the argument you're going to make, how about we also increase the cost of Railguns, since that 50,000 ISK Sica can happily destroy my 500,000 ISK Dropship in about a second and a half.
With the proposed idea here, the small blast radius would make it primarily an ambush weapon (set up and wait for the tank to roll over, plant it on the hull, etc) though it's use in a minefield would make it exceptionally dangerous. But hey, maybe that would provoke HAV pilots into using infantry for support. Y'know, if you can't deal with PE/RE's on your own, just run with some good infantry...  |
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Ulysses Knapse
Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm
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Posted - 2013.12.31 05:52:00 -
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Ghermard-ol Dizeriois wrote:Ulysses Knapse wrote:Why are people liking this thread? It's asking for is an overpowered piece of equipment that would one-shot almost any unhardened vehicle, and two-shot the rest of the unhardened vehicles. No one is considering the possible balance issues? No one at all? I am disappointed, forumers! I suppose you didn't come out of your tank since the first day of 1.7 then.
I didn't know sniper rifles worked inside of an HAV, and that's pretty much my primary weapon.
What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage?
The pile of garbage is more lethal.
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Ivy Zalinto
Lo-Tech Solutions Ltd
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Posted - 2013.12.31 06:11:00 -
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Maybe 2k or 2.5 k damage...not 4-8k. I can almost always get one re on the tank and I have incredibly bad luck in fps games...3 k damage would be like having 2 re's on the tank per and you could still carry three. That insures that if you sink all charges on a target you will get 1 kill with them and when partnered with a friend you could get up to three...
Gotta be a some kind of balance to the weapon, even if their designed to be tank busters only. I could use them as claymores as well by attaching them to doors. heavy near about fills a doorway doesnt it?
Dedicated Stealth Scout.
Scout instructor; Learning Coalition
Scrambler Pistol dedication
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Bojo The Mighty
Zanzibar Concept
2510
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Posted - 2013.12.31 06:21:00 -
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What's so wrong with 3500 damage? My methana has more HP than that. If tankers are complaining that 3500 damage are going to destroy their tanks then you really can't fit.
Limit should be two active. Difference in tiers is activation time.
Looking For: Corp
If a scout runs out of all ammunition behind enemy lines, they did something right.
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Alena Ventrallis
The Neutral Zone
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Posted - 2013.12.31 06:23:00 -
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A normal RE pops a heavy anyway, and with a larger blast radius to boot. 3500 damage or 1500 damage, Thats a dead heavy.
How about 2500 damage? The point is that a proto fitted tank can be killed by no more than 3 of these, or one full standard set. |
Ivy Zalinto
Lo-Tech Solutions Ltd
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Posted - 2013.12.31 06:25:00 -
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Idk...My gunlogi runs a complex shield extender on the thing and i think thats almost its entire hp pool. For one explosive it seems a bit excessive. I like the idea but it seems like they would become the exclusive av weapon if they had 3.5+ per charge. Again I can always get one explosive on a tank once i cross into the 20 meter threshold and generally I can get two. The third is the one that I have to have luck or stealth to land. Think about your on encounters with them and how you went about it, then the average number of charges you can get on one when actively trying.
On a side note, dont those make excellent indicators of where the tank is for a little bit on the map?
One more note! Bojo, your sig...Im speccing into pistol ammunition capacity just because of that reason..I run out of ammo way too often lately XD
Dedicated Stealth Scout.
Scout instructor; Learning Coalition
Scrambler Pistol dedication
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Bojo The Mighty
Zanzibar Concept
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Posted - 2013.12.31 06:26:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:A normal RE pops a heavy anyway, and with a larger blast radius to boot. 3500 damage or 1500 damage, Thats a dead heavy. Only because RE's do extra Armor damage. I have seen heavies with very large amounts of HP.
Looking For: Corp
If a scout runs out of all ammunition behind enemy lines, they did something right.
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Ulysses Knapse
Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm
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Posted - 2013.12.31 08:33:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:What's so wrong with 3500 damage?
Bojo, not you too... 
What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage?
The pile of garbage is more lethal.
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Bojo The Mighty
Zanzibar Concept
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Posted - 2013.12.31 23:03:00 -
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Ulysses Knapse wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:What's so wrong with 3500 damage? Bojo, not you too...
You cut the part where I said my Methana has more HP than that.
Tankers right now all solo. It's the reason why scouts with RE's destroy them. This equipment can be countered. Throw some turrets on an HAV and it's practically scout proof.
Looking For: Corp
If a scout runs out of all ammunition behind enemy lines, they did something right.
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
1830
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Posted - 2014.01.01 01:10:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:3500 damage. 0.5m radius.
Tank busters.
good idea.
this game makes me sad....
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Alena Ventrallis
The Neutral Zone
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Posted - 2014.03.22 03:23:00 -
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Bump.
Best PVE idea I've seen.
Fixed link.
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.03.22 03:42:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:So one explosive will take out my 500k tank?
Yeah, if this thing costs 50k a pop.
GǪ.if you let someone place an RE on your tankGǪ..
Kills-Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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Dunce Masterson
Savage Bullet
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Posted - 2014.03.22 04:01:00 -
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HELL NO. -1
I could give you 10 reason why the Dust team cant get the Amarr tank style right but they are all out of care.
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Racro 01 Arifistan
501st Knights of Leanbox
INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
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Posted - 2014.03.22 04:22:00 -
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then put it ona logi suit.
make it's fitting high enough so its only feable to run 1 of of these on a suit. and give cary limit of 2. that way you can make sure you can kill any tank. hardned or not. and prevent from being placed on lav.s can be placed on teh ground only. and have no varients. |
Draco Cerberus
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
839
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Posted - 2014.03.22 04:49:00 -
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TBH without at least 3 REs there isn't enough payoff to even run them, kind of like using contact grenades.
LogiGod earns his pips
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Doshneil Antaro
Dem Durrty Boyz
254
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Posted - 2014.03.22 15:14:00 -
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Step 1: Flip damage profiles of RE with the proximities.
Step 2: Make proximities magnetic homing (like AV nades).
Step 3: Keep the warning beep. by the time the tanker hears them, it is just telling him it is too late.
This makes proximities effective for use against vehicles as intended. This also makes RE less effective vs infantry, but still has a high enough damage output to be very useful.
Sage /thread
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Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.03.22 16:01:00 -
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My only question is, can I put them on a jihad jeep? |
TunRa
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.03.22 16:12:00 -
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Trey Hardin wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:But you only get 1 :P
And it takes 3 seconds to blow up from when you press the detonation button. That's not enough damage. How about they don't damage infantry
How about we stop suggesting stupid suggestions that makes this games lore look like a pile of ****.
Thanks CCP Foxfour
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Joey-Number1
Maniacal Miners INC
No Safe Haven
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Posted - 2014.03.22 17:37:00 -
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What is up with everyone using REs nowadays ? I remember being one of few people that actually got a notice of them and used them back in the day of very early beta I was mostly specializing into minmatar tech, which inclued mass drivers (only weapon that I got eye on since first notice) and explosives in most of my fittings. I guess mostly the people that were fans of logistics role skilled into explosives as well. Now it seems very popular, which is fine, makes the gameplay much more entertaining  |
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