DUST Search - Okay then CCP Tempt me back

Henchmen21 wrote:

Son-Of A-Gun wrote:

Henchmen21 wrote:

Skihids wrote:

His questions are valid. CCP is selling us a product and they have to make it attractive enough to bring players in.

You may or may not be spending cash, but someone is and that is absolutely required. No profit, no business, no game.

Even if you aren't spending cash you are spending your time in match. CCP needs a certain level of activity to make the experience something that a few are willing to pay for. So in effect you "work" for them by providing someone for the paying customer to shoot at. The place would be a ghost town if matches were limited to those who spent cash.

Nothing is free, not even something like DUST. You pay in cash or you pay in time.

And if you don't enjoy it you are free to move along and spend your time elsewhere. They still don't owe anybody anything.

They do if they want a successful business. They are selling people entertainment. They owe people entertainment.

For me the new dinamics, brought by the one 1.7 drop were enough to bring me back from my three month slumber. I'll be around for a while. Hopefully, this time CCP will have more content out before I get board again. *Coughs* Gal heavy/weapon crusader suit RTS mode MTAC/jets *coughs coughs*

They also like their data, so I suspect the tank spam was somewhat intentional so they have plenty of data to look at when addressing changes to AV.

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Psyon Sebiestor FACTION WARFARE ARMY 74	Posted - 2013.12.27 20:55:00 - [1] - Quote You want people to play this game so .. sell it Why should I and other people who have left the game come back .. what is coming over the next few patches that is worth coming back to play ? Why should a new player come and play this game instead of another game ? What do you have to offer new players ?
TcuBe3 Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 294	Posted - 2013.12.27 20:56:00 - [2] - Quote Free P o r n! oh wait.... CCP Fanboys remind me of the Heaven's Gate cult. "DON'T DRINK THE COOL AID PEOPLE!"
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 325	Posted - 2013.12.27 20:57:00 - [3] - Quote Why do they owe you ****? Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 3312	Posted - 2013.12.27 20:59:00 - [4] - Quote You shouldn't. Nothing. They shouldn't. Nothing. I hope that answers your questions. When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE! nú+
Psyon Sebiestor FACTION WARFARE ARMY 75	Posted - 2013.12.27 20:59:00 - [5] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: Why do they owe you ****? They are a business I am a customer .. is that concept really that difficult for you to understand ? Why do you think CCP even make games ? Out of the goodness of their hearts ? Facepalm
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 2276	Posted - 2013.12.27 20:59:00 - [6] - Quote You know that DUST has a new executive producer? He hasn't been in Shanghai for long. Give him a few months to develop a plan and start implementing. FanFest 2014 would be about perfect for them to have enough done to announce something. // Spike Lieutenant // Matari Logistics / Scout / Pilot // @ReesNoturana
Psyon Sebiestor FACTION WARFARE ARMY 75	Posted - 2013.12.27 21:00:00 - [7] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: You shouldn't. Nothing. They shouldn't. Nothing. I hope that answers your questions. Yeah they are the answers I was expecting tbh lol
Valmorgan Aubaris Stellar and Orbital Strategic Services 75	Posted - 2013.12.27 21:01:00 - [8] - Quote Psyon Sebiestor wrote: Henchmen21 wrote: Why do they owe you **? They are a business I am a customer .. is that concept really that difficult for you to understand ? Why do you think CCP even make games ? Out of the goodness of their hearts ? Facepalm Its a FREE game dipshit. You're not a customer, unless you chose to be, and, since YOU chose to be it is all on you. EVE alliance seeks mercs, join Stellar and Orbital Strategic Services** today! Let's gank Scotty.
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 3312	Posted - 2013.12.27 21:03:00 - [9] - Quote Psyon Sebiestor wrote: Patrick57 wrote: You shouldn't. Nothing. They shouldn't. Nothing. I hope that answers your questions. Yeah they are the answers I was expecting tbh lol Good, those are the facts. When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE! nú+
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 327	Posted - 2013.12.27 21:05:00 - [10] - Quote Psyon Sebiestor wrote: Henchmen21 wrote: Why do they owe you ****? They are a business I am a customer .. is that concept really that difficult for you to understand ? Why do you think CCP even make games ? Out of the goodness of their hearts ? Facepalm They offer a free product. They don't owe you jack, any money you spent is your problem not theirs. Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles

Psyon Sebiestor FACTION WARFARE ARMY 75	Posted - 2013.12.27 21:07:00 - [11] - Quote Valmorgan Aubaris wrote: Psyon Sebiestor wrote: Henchmen21 wrote: Why do they owe you ****? They are a business I am a customer .. is that concept really that difficult for you to understand ? Why do you think CCP even make games ? Out of the goodness of their hearts ? Facepalm Its a FREE game dipshit. You're not a customer, unless you chose to be, and, since YOU chose to be it is all on you. Sigh I honestly don't feel like explaining the concept behind F2P and micro transactions and why it is in actual fact a business model rather than the charity you seem to think it is. Your living in a dream world If no one spends money on this game then the game will get pulled You really should go around thanking anyone who has spent money on this game because if they didn't you wouldn't be able to play this game ..
Elmo Love U 514 Mile High Club 541	Posted - 2013.12.27 21:08:00 - [12] - Quote Psyon Sebiestor wrote: You want people to play this game so .. sell it Why should I and other people who have left the game come back .. what is coming over the next few patches that is worth coming back to play ? Why should a new player come and play this game instead of another game ? What do you have to offer new players ? Look, shiny guns....... if u are looking to find someone to hold your hand,LOL. You left,stay gone. You are not allowed to come back. ChantsPVE PVE PVE PVE
Psyon Sebiestor FACTION WARFARE ARMY 76	Posted - 2013.12.27 21:10:00 - [13] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: Psyon Sebiestor wrote: Henchmen21 wrote: Why do they owe you ****? They are a business I am a customer .. is that concept really that difficult for you to understand ? Why do you think CCP even make games ? Out of the goodness of their hearts ? Facepalm They offer a free product. They don't owe you jack, any money you spent is your problem not theirs. Am I really the only person who understands the F2P model ? Where did I say that they 'owe' me anything ? IO asked for reasons why I should come back and play the game and why new players should come and play this game ... how does that have anything to do with being owed anything ? All games need players .. especially F2P games .. they survive on micro transactions instead of 1 of payments or subscription fees Kids these days don't understand even the simplest concepts
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 327	Posted - 2013.12.27 21:15:00 - [14] - Quote Psyon Sebiestor wrote: Henchmen21 wrote: Psyon Sebiestor wrote: Henchmen21 wrote: Why do they owe you **? They are a business I am a customer .. is that concept really that difficult for you to understand ? Why do you think CCP even make games ? Out of the goodness of their hearts ? Facepalm They offer a free product. They don't owe you jack, any money you spent is your problem not theirs. Am I really the only person who understands the F2P model ? Where did I say that they 'owe' me anything ? IO asked for reasons why I should come back and play the game and why new players should come and play this game ... how does that have anything to do with being owed anything ? All games need players .. especially F2P games .. they survive on micro transactions instead of 1 of payments or subscription fees Kids these days don't understand even the simplest concepts You feel they owe you a reason to play it. Don't like it don't play it and move the ** along. Quit your bitching and go find something you enjoy. How hard is that to understand? They took the risk to make the game F2P, you can play it with out paying a dime. If no one pays they write it off as a loss and move on just like you should. Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
Psyon Sebiestor FACTION WARFARE ARMY 76	Posted - 2013.12.27 21:15:00 - [15] - Quote Elmo Love U wrote: Psyon Sebiestor wrote: You want people to play this game so .. sell it Why should I and other people who have left the game come back .. what is coming over the next few patches that is worth coming back to play ? Why should a new player come and play this game instead of another game ? What do you have to offer new players ? Look, shiny guns....... if u are looking to find someone to hold your hand,LOL. You left,stay gone. You are not allowed to come back. Try getting laid and maybe you could shave that neckbeard off and become a real boy .. just like daddy wanted you to be 1. There is no mention of hands 2. I didn't address you in either of the questions 3. I have no idea who you are so I'd love to know who died and made you god Now run along, shouldn't you be crying into that tub of icecream by now after spending Christmas alone in your bedroom ?
Psyon Sebiestor FACTION WARFARE ARMY 76	Posted - 2013.12.27 21:26:00 - [16] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: Psyon Sebiestor wrote: Henchmen21 wrote: Psyon Sebiestor wrote: Henchmen21 wrote: Why do they owe you **? They are a business I am a customer .. is that concept really that difficult for you to understand ? Why do you think CCP even make games ? Out of the goodness of their hearts ? Facepalm They offer a free product. They don't owe you jack, any money you spent is your problem not theirs. Am I really the only person who understands the F2P model ? Where did I say that they 'owe' me anything ? IO asked for reasons why I should come back and play the game and why new players should come and play this game ... how does that have anything to do with being owed anything ? All games need players .. especially F2P games .. they survive on micro transactions instead of 1 of payments or subscription fees Kids these days don't understand even the simplest concepts You feel they owe you a reason to play it. Don't like it don't play it and move the ** along. Quit your bitching and go find something you enjoy. How hard is that to understand? They took the risk to make the game F2P, you can play it with out paying a dime. If no one pays they write it off as a loss and move on just like you should. Sorry but why do you play games then ? Don't you need a reason to play a game ? eg for fun ? even if it's for fun it's still a reason .. how exactly is it bitching to ask if there is anything coming that is reason enough to come back and play the game ?
Skihids Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2593	Posted - 2013.12.27 21:27:00 - [17] - Quote His questions are valid. CCP is selling us a product and they have to make it attractive enough to bring players in. You may or may not be spending cash, but someone is and that is absolutely required. No profit, no business, no game. Even if you aren't spending cash you are spending your time in match. CCP needs a certain level of activity to make the experience something that a few are willing to pay for. So in effect you "work" for them by providing someone for the paying customer to shoot at. The place would be a ghost town if matches were limited to those who spent cash. Nothing is free, not even something like DUST. You pay in cash or you pay in time.
Psyon Sebiestor FACTION WARFARE ARMY 80	Posted - 2013.12.27 21:36:00 - [18] - Quote Skihids wrote: His questions are valid. CCP is selling us a product and they have to make it attractive enough to bring players in. You may or may not be spending cash, but someone is and that is absolutely required. No profit, no business, no game. Even if you aren't spending cash you are spending your time in match. CCP needs a certain level of activity to make the experience something that a few are willing to pay for. So in effect you "work" for them by providing someone for the paying customer to shoot at. The place would be a ghost town if matches were limited to those who spent cash. Nothing is free, not even something like DUST. You pay in cash or you pay in time. Thank you Thank You, thank you, thank you !!!! I'm so glad I'm not the only person who understands this xD
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 327	Posted - 2013.12.27 21:39:00 - [19] - Quote Skihids wrote: His questions are valid. CCP is selling us a product and they have to make it attractive enough to bring players in. You may or may not be spending cash, but someone is and that is absolutely required. No profit, no business, no game. Even if you aren't spending cash you are spending your time in match. CCP needs a certain level of activity to make the experience something that a few are willing to pay for. So in effect you "work" for them by providing someone for the paying customer to shoot at. The place would be a ghost town if matches were limited to those who spent cash. Nothing is free, not even something like DUST. You pay in cash or you pay in time. And if you don't enjoy it you are free to move along and spend your time elsewhere. They still don't owe anybody anything. Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 1059	Posted - 2013.12.27 21:42:00 - [20] - Quote Psyon Sebiestor wrote: Henchmen21 wrote: Why do they owe you ****? They are a business I am a customer .. is that concept really that difficult for you to understand ? Why do you think CCP even make games ? Out of the goodness of their hearts ? Facepalm are you a paying customer? Are you here for the free breadsticks? There was a time we fought good tankers. Now we just fight good tanks.

Mithridates VI Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2335	Posted - 2013.12.27 21:50:00 - [21] - Quote Dear lord, the lack of tact with which OP is begging for attention actually pains me. Inflammatory opening gambit followed by a blatant assertion of dominance in response to nearly every criticism. It's even so primitive a display of status-seeking that he goes for low hanging fruit like attacking alleged virginity. Most of OP's contributions in this thread could be replaced by a single post stating "I am clever and you are not" and if OP is actually interested in finding reasons to play DUST, the thread is a poor attempt at eliciting that information. Please refrain from utilizing such inflammatory sarcasm in the future. GÇö CCP Eterne
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 599	Posted - 2013.12.27 21:51:00 - [22] - Quote asking th ePLAYERS these things will get you nowhere. get a media pass and ask CCP or its pointless
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 743	Posted - 2013.12.27 22:04:00 - [23] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: Skihids wrote: His questions are valid. CCP is selling us a product and they have to make it attractive enough to bring players in. You may or may not be spending cash, but someone is and that is absolutely required. No profit, no business, no game. Even if you aren't spending cash you are spending your time in match. CCP needs a certain level of activity to make the experience something that a few are willing to pay for. So in effect you "work" for them by providing someone for the paying customer to shoot at. The place would be a ghost town if matches were limited to those who spent cash. Nothing is free, not even something like DUST. You pay in cash or you pay in time. And if you don't enjoy it you are free to move along and spend your time elsewhere. They still don't owe anybody anything. They do if they want a successful business. They are selling people entertainment. They owe people entertainment. For me the new dinamics, brought by the one 1.7 drop were enough to bring me back from my three month slumber. I'll be around for a while. Hopefully, this time CCP will have more content out before I get board again. Coughs Gal heavy/weapon crusader suit RTS mode MTAC/jets coughs coughs {:)}{3GÇó>
bolsh lee Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 757	Posted - 2013.12.27 22:04:00 - [24] - Quote Psyon Sebiestor, I gotta give you credit there is a flood of ignorant responses to your post but yet you continue to keep your cool.. I've never understood these fucks who think just because its a free to play game CCP doesn't owe the player base the respect, and communication that comes with running a business.. I seen your post as speaking for a wide majority, paying or not, a lot of people have quit or taken a break the numbers speak for themselves.. Im with ya, CCP needs to improve the appeal of this game drastically.. For those people who have responded with such ignorance, I'm sure will continue to sit ideally by as we drop below the 3k mark..
knight of 6 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 909	Posted - 2013.12.27 22:05:00 - [25] - Quote Psyon Sebiestor wrote: You want people to play this game so .. sell it Why should I and other people who have left the game come back .. what is coming over the next few patches that is worth coming back to play ? Why should a new player come and play this game instead of another game ? What do you have to offer new players ? it sounds like you want an excuse to come back. "God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon Ko6, scout, tanker. CLOSED BETA VET
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 397	Posted - 2013.12.27 22:20:00 - [26] - Quote The questions the OP ask do have some merit. However this game is not geared towards attracting hoardes of new players like COD or other games where everyone can succeed equally because all the weapons and perks open very easily and quickly. That being said this game does have a lot offer the intelligent thinking gamer who understands the mechanics of a semi role playing free to play first person shooter that a little bit at a time will be tied more into EVE. There are others out there that enjoy a hard road of skilling up to get better gear. The interaction between players and building corps and alliances is another draw for some of us who play because we actually enjoy hanging out with our chosen corpmates. Yes the game has glitches and holy shite tanks arefukd at the moment but this will pass. This game is not for 13 year olds who will get mad cause they can't 20/2 the first day they play, that's what COD is for. And yes I and others have AUR and boosters but that is not what has kept this game alive, nor will it be in the future. If the reasons to play have to be explained to you, you are looking at this like buying a new car, this game is not a new car and frankly if people get that technical about why to play a game, maybe they should move along... CEO Invictus Maneo~ "I remain unvanquished"
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 327	Posted - 2013.12.27 22:37:00 - [27] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Henchmen21 wrote: Skihids wrote: His questions are valid. CCP is selling us a product and they have to make it attractive enough to bring players in. You may or may not be spending cash, but someone is and that is absolutely required. No profit, no business, no game. Even if you aren't spending cash you are spending your time in match. CCP needs a certain level of activity to make the experience something that a few are willing to pay for. So in effect you "work" for them by providing someone for the paying customer to shoot at. The place would be a ghost town if matches were limited to those who spent cash. Nothing is free, not even something like DUST. You pay in cash or you pay in time. And if you don't enjoy it you are free to move along and spend your time elsewhere. They still don't owe anybody anything. They do if they want a successful business. They are selling people entertainment. They owe people entertainment. For me the new dinamics, brought by the one 1.7 drop were enough to bring me back from my three month slumber. I'll be around for a while. Hopefully, this time CCP will have more content out before I get board again. Coughs Gal heavy/weapon crusader suit RTS mode MTAC/jets coughs coughs I do the same thing, I pretty much stopped playing from 1.4 until 1.7. I am also a long term EVE player so I've seen how CCP works over the long haul, improvements will come in time. They also like their data, so I suspect the tank spam was somewhat intentional so they have plenty of data to look at when addressing changes to AV. Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
Skihids Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2598	Posted - 2013.12.27 22:50:00 - [28] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: Skihids wrote: His questions are valid. CCP is selling us a product and they have to make it attractive enough to bring players in. You may or may not be spending cash, but someone is and that is absolutely required. No profit, no business, no game. Even if you aren't spending cash you are spending your time in match. CCP needs a certain level of activity to make the experience something that a few are willing to pay for. So in effect you "work" for them by providing someone for the paying customer to shoot at. The place would be a ghost town if matches were limited to those who spent cash. Nothing is free, not even something like DUST. You pay in cash or you pay in time. And if you don't enjoy it you are free to move along and spend your time elsewhere. They still don't owe anybody anything. True, but if you read the OP you will note he wasn't claiming that CCP owed him anything. He was asking them what they had to offer to entice him to work for them. It's a legitimate question and one you should be asking as well.
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 744	Posted - 2013.12.27 23:50:00 - [29] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Henchmen21 wrote: Skihids wrote: His questions are valid. CCP is selling us a product and they have to make it attractive enough to bring players in. You may or may not be spending cash, but someone is and that is absolutely required. No profit, no business, no game. Even if you aren't spending cash you are spending your time in match. CCP needs a certain level of activity to make the experience something that a few are willing to pay for. So in effect you "work" for them by providing someone for the paying customer to shoot at. The place would be a ghost town if matches were limited to those who spent cash. Nothing is free, not even something like DUST. You pay in cash or you pay in time. And if you don't enjoy it you are free to move along and spend your time elsewhere. They still don't owe anybody anything. They do if they want a successful business. They are selling people entertainment. They owe people entertainment. For me the new dinamics, brought by the one 1.7 drop were enough to bring me back from my three month slumber. I'll be around for a while. Hopefully, this time CCP will have more content out before I get board again. Coughs Gal heavy/weapon crusader suit RTS mode MTAC/jets coughs coughs They also like their data, so I suspect the tank spam was somewhat intentional so they have plenty of data to look at when addressing changes to AV. Yah, that sounds highly probable. Hopefully it doesn't take them three months worth of data to go to the next step. They did say that 1.7 was just the first step to vehicle balance and that we probably wouldn't like it. {:)}{3GÇó>
Rusty Shallows 601	Posted - 2013.12.28 00:28:00 - [30] - Quote I'm part of the group that tries not to advertise for this game. It would do more harm than good at this time. As far as bringing back people is concerned several we're waiting on me to sound the bugle. Unfortunately I haven't had anything good to say and their past resentments over being treated shoddily seems to have festered. When the game finally tips from "crappy" to at least "OK" I will try. Most of them knew me from the Eve Online days when they had me running multiple corp wallets in the billions for T2 battleships, T3, and Cap construction through Highsec POSes. So they they might give this game a second chance, either-or I don't want to jump the gun. MCC Lounge Lizard Forums > Game Fix the game CCP



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