YEAH! Players should NOT be rewarded for losing all their points against the team of enemy protos and having to fight tooth and nail to even leave the redline to begin with.

Instead, we should leave the match.

I'm not on about people being redlined. I'm on about people redlining themselves because they're camping scrubs
with no gun-game at all who are too scared to come down and FIGHT.

The problem is that your suggestions (assuming their serious) would in no way differentiate between the two scenarios. There's no doubt that Redline mechanics need to be addressed, but they need to be done in a way that doesn't just encourage people to leave rather than stick around and fight.

Players should NOT be rewarded for plonking a tank on a hill behind a redline and shooting at everything which moves.

Players should NOT be rewarded for parking theirselves so far behind the redline with a sniper rifle that they cannot render.

Players should NOT be rewarded for camping behind the redline on a railgun installation.

If you're behind the redline you should get ZERO War Points. Because as far as I'm concerned, you're not doing anything
to help the war, you're practically trolling.

YEAH! Players should NOT be rewarded for losing all their points against the team of enemy protos and having to fight tooth and nail to even leave the redline to begin with.

Instead, we should leave the match.

Make it work both ways: No WP earned for kills behind a redline. Period.

That would discourage players from sitting behind a redline all game, but it would also discourage teams from pushing their opponents into the redline and farming them for kills. It's only fair that, if you can't earn an orbital by trying to break out of a redline, you shouldn't be able to earn one while denying your opponent that opportunity.

Both situations can still be tactically advantageous, but you would then need to weigh whether playing unsportingly is worth the loss of warpoints.

Make it work both ways: No WP earned for kills behind a redline. Period.

That would discourage players from sitting behind a redline all game, but it would also discourage teams from pushing their opponents into the redline and farming them for kills. It's only fair that, if you can't earn an orbital by trying to break out of a redline, you shouldn't be able to earn one while denying your opponent that opportunity.

Both situations can still be tactically advantageous, but you would then need to weigh whether playing unsportingly is worth the loss of warpoints.

No. Simply because of your team is that bad they deserve to get farmed like organic free range scrubberries.

You assuming the redline is used in majority for a refuge from a proto stomp.

That simply is not true in any way.

It is used to farm kills, farm isk and LP and standings... more then it has ever been used as a hiding spot for players who got out matched.(Which hurts the side getting hit hard just as much)

For those players that need to hide or not spawn in in those matches... having an option where the dominating side could speed up killing a MCC after having all points capped for an extended period of time.


But it all comes back to matchmaking no new or month old player should be put up against a 1 year old vet right out of battle academy.. When we didn't have aim assist the new player could get the better of the aim... now there is no difference everyone has super aim and the person with the most health and skillpoints will win.

Yup Rail tanks should be out in the feild for CQC, where their long range weapon works best.

Snipers should be in the mix of things, hiding from the non stop scanner spam, and the kill you before you can even scope in assualt weapons.

I just find it absolutley absurd that players using long range weapons choose to stay at range!!!! Obviosly my rail rifle cant hit them, how selfish are these little bastards.
Now while we are griping about players using weapons from within the given boundries of the game, and as their weapon was designed, whats with these shotgunners? They should get no WP if the come within 30m of me, my optimal range is about 70m, thats where all other players should be, with in my optimal range, if not remove their WP, tanks NO WP, my RR doesn't work on you...thats cheating. How bout them grenades eh? ******* exploding!!!! no WP for grenades that exploded!!

NO WP FOR ANYONE OUTSIDE OF BORING BORING BORING ASSAULT RANGE.

YEAH! Players should NOT be rewarded for losing all their points against the team of enemy protos and having to fight tooth and nail to even leave the redline to begin with.

Instead, we should leave the match.

YEAH! Players should NOT be rewarded for losing all their points against the team of enemy protos and having to fight tooth and nail to even leave the redline to begin with.

Instead, we should leave the match.

I'd rather have that then people get points from the redline. If they quit then it'll be boring for the proto stompers and they might not try so hard to ruin the game so fast. They might actually start with advanced gear and work up to proto if they need it.

Meanwhile the people leaving the matches get another chance to enter another match and might have better luck. If not then just leave again. The end result is you have games filled with proto stompers on a team against nobody waiting for the time to run out.

But seriously no one should get wp for redline sniping.

You assuming the redline is used in majority for a refuge from a proto stomp.

That simply is not true in any way.

It is used to farm kills, farm isk and LP and standings... more then it has ever been used as a hiding spot for players who got out matched.(Which hurts the side getting hit hard just as much)

For those players that need to hide or not spawn in in those matches... having an option where the dominating side could speed up killing a MCC after having all points capped for an extended period of time.


But it all comes back to matchmaking no new or month old player should be put up against a 1 year old vet right out of battle academy.. When we didn't have aim assist the new player could get the better of the aim... now there is no difference everyone has super aim and the person with the most health and skillpoints will win.

Seems like this thread pops up on a daily basis. Get over yourselves already--if you can be shot by someone in the redline, then guess what? You can shoot them, too!

CCP has heard your complaints, and is slowly addressing them.

Yup Rail tanks should be out in the feild for CQC, where their long range weapon works best.

Snipers should be in the mix of things, hiding from the non stop scanner spam, and the kill you before you can even scope in assualt weapons.

I just find it absolutley absurd that players using long range weapons choose to stay at range!!!! Obviosly my rail rifle cant hit them, how selfish are these little bastards.
Now while we are griping about players using weapons from within the given boundries of the game, and as their weapon was designed, whats with these shotgunners? They should get no WP if the come within 30m of me, my optimal range is about 70m, thats where all other players should be, with in my optimal range, if not remove their WP, tanks NO WP, my RR doesn't work on you...thats cheating. How bout them grenades eh? ******* exploding!!!! no WP for grenades that exploded!!

NO WP FOR ANYONE OUTSIDE OF BORING BORING BORING ASSAULT RANGE.