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Posted - 2013.12.27 03:14:00 -
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this argument will go to a conversation that has been argued for theese 2 years that argues:
for redline WP: to keep beaten players a non bankrupt state/to give players SOME WP when they get redlined so 100% of the loosing team doesn`t rage quit, if such 'no WP' action is taken then we would need to allow rage quiting to be affordable at the cost of real rage quits.
against redline: WP needs to be removed from the redline area so it doesn`t encourage/allow redline snipers/rails to abuse a loosing teams balance in any battle case, other wise thoose playing farely pay extra while thoose who cheat gain.
as for me I still think red line points need to be removed from most/some areas of the redline. or the redline changes shape and while in the redline you don`t get points (red line is the same to hostiles to you it changes to represeant the area you can gain points. I would also like recover to be weakened to halter redline retreats but that can`t be done (atleast on the top of my head) without hurting the loosing team. |
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Posted - 2013.12.27 03:26:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:Read my post..... NO WP unless enemy hold ALL objectives
Is it really that much to ask ..???
was coming back to post a reply to you post (which I liked) but wanted to read that buff AV weapons thread.
that is practicly tghe same as the shapeshifting redline idea I said infact it was formed after thinking that thought, the redline shifts if you are being stomped or have a ton of campers, other wise no WP.
I also liked what you said about people saying its for the new guys, mpost new guys don`t care if things go bad due to home spawn/redline then they will decide if it will be worth playing the 1st few weeks, news guys won`t say I`m safe here and can wait it out, but do hold that thought becuse an issue of itself arrises, who wants to wait it out? waiting out a bad match is the worste thing (followed by a bad match that most likely has to due the redline).
the all none fact is its an issue and saying theres pros to it never over shadows the cons, thats just not balance a move has to be made to eleminate the cons and replace them with pros, or atleast do the best that can be done since its a commen issue all around. |
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Posted - 2013.12.27 23:14:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:Heh for the vast majority of redline rail tankers I doubt they get rewarded much at all, i've seen many that get less then 3 kills in a match and have the warpoints of killing 3 or 4 turrets, don't get me wrong I can't stand persistent redline railgunners, but the only way its actually supported is with poorly designed maps.
If this is more QQ about their effect on dropships all i can say is get good, with half a brain you can almost ignore the run of the mill railgun tards, I know I can and im not a well known dropship pilot from multiple builds, strangely many of the so called dropship pilots i've met run the ground and whine, while I clean up and make a profit.
even if 10 more people say what you said that its not much of an issue if you have skill or what have you I still won`t care becuse its still an issue, 800WP + ISK while not loosing anything is pretty good to some people so railgun lineing won`t stop intill they won`t gain anything from it, its not like they are trolls who want to mess up your game, they are out for the WP/SP and even so little they will gladly take since there NO RISK for (as said in OP) 'risk reward system', its a contridiction to the games moto/style, its no matter what way you suger coat it an inbalance and needs to be changed, we don`t need to say my turrets bigger and so makes it a small issue or not an issue. as DUST freind said and I can relate since I`ve been here that long to its been 2 years with no chnage.
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