The winner in pc is whoever doesn't get the lag bro...

Wouldn't work.

The only person on this topic that made any sort of sense.

*Tips hat*

CCP tried something like this (OP) a while back with the matchmaking system and the wait times where horrendous,

To massively increase player base is to increase the number of players graduating from academy to be frankly honest.

idea is bad in many many more ways than it is good. go back to the drawing board because this idea is just bad in so many ways

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plenty of reasons why this wont wonk

Thats why you keep some game modes that are free for all at any skill level or gear level. My point was to give the players who aren't skilled enough to compete against people of higher SP to play against others at similar levels. It also allows vets who enjoy the challenge to face other protos. Its not that much fun destroying militia suits in my protogear, but taking out other protos is the best.

Thats why you keep some game modes that are free for all at any skill level or gear level. My point was to give the players who aren't skilled enough to compete against people of higher SP to play against others at similar levels. It also allows vets who enjoy the challenge to face other protos. Its not that much fun destroying militia suits in my protogear, but taking out other protos is the best.

thats the whole point. they are meant to be free for all. i know players who use nothing but standard and mlt with 5mil or less sp and they kill protos all day long. at the same time i know 20mil+ players who have less sp skilled into a single role than most low sp players who skilled into a singular purpose. how do you balance that.

you seem to neglect the fact someone with 5mil sp can proto out an assault suit quite easily. where does that leave your idea. you only have to look at the current academy to see peoples alts already doing this to some extent. sp is not a balancing factor to base balances like this on as everyone spends it differently.

sure we need more gameplay modes but your suggestion is not a new game play mode. its a blanket restriction to all gameplay based on something arbitrary like current sp total.

sp wont work as i stated above
wp wont work because they fluctuate too much. you have good days and you have bad days and if you logibro i.e not killing you end up with more point than the killers so that defeats the whole purpose of basing it on wp.
kdr is one of the most messed up stats on the leaderboard. how can anyone consider using that as a means to balance. total kills is also not a balance factor because some play more than others or have good or bad days.

you talk about retention like dust is dieing but its far from that. dust is no different than eve. its a harsh universe and you either fight through it or you die. you don't demand ccp to hold your hand and guide you through it. thats just stupid and goes against everything that makes eve good and when all the content is out will make dust great too.

what happens if ccp implements anything like your idea and gains thousands of new players. what happens when the training wheels are removed and people see the true harshness of dust and eve. they will drop by the thousands only they will take their friends with them and create masses of negative media attention and that will truely kill dust.

if your friends cant handle the pain then they are in the wrong game. this is not cod or BF with zero consequences where everyone is in the exact same gear with the exact same skill. this is meant to a harsh environment to create great combat and gameplay. dumbing it down and making it safe to play is pointless

also your suggestion of making alts for recruiting. its one thing to see a noob succeed against extreme odds against a proto swarm but how do you measure a good player when he is up against weaker or similar targets. if you want the best you need to see them at their best. how would having an alt in the lower and mid levels help me determine if that guy is any good when the odds are too balanced.

it hardly makes for an epic war game when you never have to worry about the unknown or what the next guy might do. when i started out after fanfest i was massively out skilled yet i kept hitting the proto stompers hard and it only made me better for it. if i was up against similar players the game would be boring and pointless to play and likely i wouldn't be where i am today.

good soldiers are forged in fire.

Pve is MUCH bigger then just 'drones'. The world will be at your finger tips. Blasting eve ships out of orbit. Buying your owwn turrets and installations. So much more.

Except that times up.

16 V 16 got old.
In Replication(and the build before that) we had 24 V 24.

We had small turrets that were eliminated and never came back.
We have tank spam but CCP does not bother to implement any infantry trenches.

Folks are looking foreward to 32 V 32 and 64 V 64 warfare.

Any friends that I tell about Dust 514 after hearing that its going to take three to six months of grind say WHY?

I ask them what do you mean?
My friends say that in three to six months theres more advanced shooters and thus why bother with Dust 514??

And what do I tell them?
Umm yeah grind for 3 to 6 months for a shooter that only has 16 V 16?

In my case its just waiting for April to go PS4 only games.
Sorry CCP.

This is an old, old argument.

I disagree - here's why: I could easily name 50 players, yourself among them, who could roll brand new toons, run starter fits, and still dominate pubs.

Now if if that is true, then skillpoints and gear matter, but other things like gun game, battlefield awareness, tactics, communication and coordination matter a hell of a lot more.