DUST Search - Tank 514: Terrible Tankers Vol. 1

The Attorney General wrote:

DUST Fiend wrote:

Tankimg is not as hard as you scrubs make it sound. You just are really bad at playing the game, and instead of getting better you cry balance!

P.S. Im almost exclusively an incubus pilot because its fun and takes skill, and this game is a total joke right now, so why bother risking far more isk than any of these militia tanks floating around.

I know you feel skilled now, but bad balance is what's giving you the edge

I was saying that tanking wasn't that hard at the start of Uprising, and telling people like Charlotte to cut out all the complaining.

But of course, no one will remember that when these types of discussions are brought up. because it doesn't serve your view of all tankers being a single mass of people. A slight nerf to swarms and AV nades, a buff to the PLC and a fix to rendering would have made the old tanks fine.

These current tanks have actually driven me from the game. There is no skill in tanking now, no tactics save see the other guy first. Which is just boring. The recent patch ruined tanking in my eyes. Which is why Attorney doesn't log on for more than a match.

I would rather play on my heavy and have a challenge than laugh at idiots who don't know what they are doing try to run AV.

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CrotchGrab 360 1158	Posted - 2013.12.26 14:02:00 - [1] - Quote There are a lot of terrible tankers in DUST, and I'm one of them. But these people I come up against in this video make me look like a tanking God! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy0HX0G1Xck If AV was actually effective then 90% of tanks would disappear from the field because people like me wouldn't be able to evade AV in time. Also the flying tank physics really have to get fixed! I've seen tanks fly 30 feet in the air!
Benjamin Ciscko The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1051	Posted - 2013.12.26 14:48:00 - [2] - Quote Bad Tanker is bad. Tanker/Assault Can I have my ADV and PRO tanks now (Honeyed Lamb enroute).
Mortedeamor 1135	Posted - 2013.12.26 14:50:00 - [3] - Quote bad tanker..? i dont understand how? why use suits when ccp gave us nice shiny op as hell tanks that cost next to nothing
Mortedeamor 1135	Posted - 2013.12.26 14:54:00 - [4] - Quote actually i will admit i am a shoddy rail tanker lol..but a great blaster tanker..sniping has never been my thing why use suits when ccp gave us nice shiny op as hell tanks that cost next to nothing
Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 969	Posted - 2013.12.26 14:55:00 - [5] - Quote Are you referring to your own terrible driving?
The Attorney General 1699	Posted - 2013.12.26 15:07:00 - [6] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: If AV was actually effective then 90% of tanks would disappear from the field because people like me wouldn't be able to evade AV in time. AV is effective, just 90% of the people who play Dust still are just bad in general, let alone something that requires a little planning. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 1044	Posted - 2013.12.26 15:19:00 - [7] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: CrotchGrab 360 wrote: If AV was actually effective then 90% of tanks would disappear from the field because people like me wouldn't be able to evade AV in time. AV is effective, just 90% of the people who play Dust still are just bad in general, let alone something that requires a little planning. that is why we just jump in a tank charge the frontline and leave with 5+kills. Rinse and repeat, does wonders for KD. AV doesn't change this. If I lose a tank it is to a rail tank. There was a time we fought good tankers. Now we just fight good tanks.
Harpyja DUST University Ivy League 961	Posted - 2013.12.26 15:25:00 - [8] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: There are a lot of terrible tankers in DUST, and I'm one of them. But these people I come up against in this video make me look like a tanking God! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy0HX0G1Xck If AV was actually effective then 90% of tanks would disappear from the field because people like me wouldn't be able to evade AV in time. Also the flying tank physics really have to get fixed! I've seen tanks fly 30 feet in the air! I must disagree on your statement on physics. Mass doesn't determine if an object can catch air or not; velocity does. Well, technically, in order to catch air, your tangential velocity to the surface has to be high enough and the curvature of the ground great enough where the force of gravity can't pull you downwards fast enough to keep you on the surface. As you can see, mass of the object has nothing to do with this, as gravity accelerates every object uniformly regardless of mass. Plus I once went off a small cliff and landed on top of a red dot, killing him "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Freshticles Cobra Unit 405	Posted - 2013.12.26 15:36:00 - [9] - Quote I just watched to make sure I wasn't on there :P Level 9001 Forum Wizard
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 9365	Posted - 2013.12.26 15:45:00 - [10] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: CrotchGrab 360 wrote: If AV was actually effective then 90% of tanks would disappear from the field because people like me wouldn't be able to evade AV in time. AV is effective, just 90% of the people who play Dust still are just bad in general, let alone something that requires a little planning. A tanker, defending bad tank balance? Hmmm...a clue? YouTube Videos Incubus pilot, any ISK donated is used to purchase new ships

GeneralButtNaked ZionTCD Public Disorder. 653	Posted - 2013.12.26 15:53:00 - [11] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: A tanker, defending bad tank balance? Hmmm...a clue? Here, I'll post on my heavy alt. As a heavy and AV specialist since Chromo, I am well aware of how to hunt and kill tanks. I do it on the regular. You, as an FG user in PC were always garbage, so I don't expect you to have improved now that it is not easy mode to use a FG to pop tanks. Also, I am not defending balance, as I have called for a reduction in FG charge time, a big buff to the PLC, proxy mines, and some sort of adjustment to swarms. All that said though, it doesn't change the fact that most of the people who still play this game are just garbage at FPS games in general. Notice how anyone who is actually decent with an FG isn't complaining about not being able to take down tanks. The only people who are crying so hard are the scrubs who needed fire and forget weaponry to do their job for them, or people who were never any good in the first place, like you. Mr. Hybrid Vayu
Midas Fool Black Phoenix Mercenaries 280	Posted - 2013.12.26 16:05:00 - [12] - Quote AHHHHH dat Spor I'm a sucker for DnB, especially with Dust. Also no clue how to be a tank pilot, but I can affirm that most of them are some spammy scrubs. I make it a point to embarrass tanks if I can by strafing until they overheat/empty their clip, and then hopping on for a ride. ...I got a laser rifle Soma kill once...(most) tankers are pretty bad atm... +25 Kill Assist...+25 Kill Assist...+25 Kill Assist...NO HOW WHY
CrotchGrab 360 1159	Posted - 2013.12.26 17:06:00 - [13] - Quote Rasatsu wrote: Are you referring to your own terrible driving? seeing as I wrote it in the original post, I WOULD THINK SO smart-ass, learn to read before attacking somebody.
CrotchGrab 360 1159	Posted - 2013.12.26 17:07:00 - [14] - Quote Harpyja wrote: CrotchGrab 360 wrote: There are a lot of terrible tankers in DUST, and I'm one of them. But these people I come up against in this video make me look like a tanking God! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy0HX0G1Xck If AV was actually effective then 90% of tanks would disappear from the field because people like me wouldn't be able to evade AV in time. Also the flying tank physics really have to get fixed! I've seen tanks fly 30 feet in the air! I must disagree on your statement on physics. Mass doesn't determine if an object can catch air or not; velocity does. Well, technically, in order to catch air, your tangential velocity to the surface has to be high enough and the curvature of the ground great enough where the force of gravity can't pull you downwards fast enough to keep you on the surface. As you can see, mass of the object has nothing to do with this, as gravity accelerates every object uniformly regardless of mass. Plus I once went off a small cliff and landed on top of a red dot, killing him OK thanks for the lesson on real life physics whereas I'm displaying clearly broken physics in a VIDEO GAME
CrotchGrab 360 1159	Posted - 2013.12.26 17:08:00 - [15] - Quote GeneralButtNaked wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: A tanker, defending bad tank balance? Hmmm...a clue? Here, I'll post on my heavy alt. As a heavy and AV specialist since Chromo, I am well aware of how to hunt and kill tanks. I do it on the regular. You, as an FG user in PC were always garbage, so I don't expect you to have improved now that it is not easy mode to use a FG to pop tanks. Also, I am not defending balance, as I have called for a reduction in FG charge time, a big buff to the PLC, proxy mines, and some sort of adjustment to swarms. All that said though, it doesn't change the fact that most of the people who still play this game are just garbage at FPS games in general. Notice how anyone who is actually decent with an FG isn't complaining about not being able to take down tanks. The only people who are crying so hard are the scrubs who needed fire and forget weaponry to do their job for them, or people who were never any good in the first place, like you. The decent FG'ers wreck me. One guy with an Ishokune Fg did almost 4000 damage to my tank with one shot. I guess that's better than losing a 4th tank today to a ******* railgun installation!!!!!!!!!!!
Master Jaraiya Ultramarine Corp 1421	Posted - 2013.12.26 17:14:00 - [16] - Quote Harpyja wrote: CrotchGrab 360 wrote: There are a lot of terrible tankers in DUST, and I'm one of them. But these people I come up against in this video make me look like a tanking God! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy0HX0G1Xck If AV was actually effective then 90% of tanks would disappear from the field because people like me wouldn't be able to evade AV in time. Also the flying tank physics really have to get fixed! I've seen tanks fly 30 feet in the air! I must disagree on your statement on physics. Mass doesn't determine if an object can catch air or not; velocity does. Well, technically, in order to catch air, your tangential velocity to the surface has to be high enough and the curvature of the ground great enough where the force of gravity can't pull you downwards fast enough to keep you on the surface. As you can see, mass of the object has nothing to do with this, as gravity accelerates every object uniformly regardless of mass. Plus I once went off a small cliff and landed on top of a red dot, killing him If you want to talk about real world physics, lets talk about the way mass effects horizontal acceleration, and deceleration. Why can these HAVs, go from sitting still to top speed in a matter of seconds, then stop on a dime and change direction nearly as fast? "The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies." *- The Toad Sage*
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2467	Posted - 2013.12.26 17:24:00 - [17] - Quote Will the community stop being so damn short sighted and ignorant all the time? It's not Tank 514. It wasn't AR 514. It damn sure wasn't Laser Rifle 514. It's really annoying reading the same "general discussion" every damn day. Give it a break. It's obvious this game doesn't have all the things that are to be in it. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
P14GU3 The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 465	Posted - 2013.12.26 17:26:00 - [18] - Quote I lol'd. Thx for showing the community how bad most of these tankers are. The real tankers want to use these scrubs as an excuse to keep AV as a joke
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 9367	Posted - 2013.12.26 18:35:00 - [19] - Quote GeneralButtNaked wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: A tanker, defending bad tank balance? Hmmm...a clue? Here, I'll post on my heavy alt. As a heavy and AV specialist since Chromo, I am well aware of how to hunt and kill tanks. I do it on the regular. You, as an FG user in PC were always garbage, so I don't expect you to have improved now that it is not easy mode to use a FG to pop tanks. Also, I am not defending balance, as I have called for a reduction in FG charge time, a big buff to the PLC, proxy mines, and some sort of adjustment to swarms. All that said though, it doesn't change the fact that most of the people who still play this game are just garbage at FPS games in general. Notice how anyone who is actually decent with an FG isn't complaining about not being able to take down tanks. The only people who are crying so hard are the scrubs who needed fire and forget weaponry to do their job for them, or people who were never any good in the first place, like you. Never played pc cuz it freezes my system, but thanks for making baseless assumptions. Fg is the only AV weapon worth a damn, but against a full squad of tanks i4s marginally effective at best. Any not terrible tanker knows that forcing an AV switch is a win even before you start racking up the kills, add in the lack of cost and sp requirements and you get a game where tank drivers desperately claim that balance and skill is what makes them so good. Some of us vets know better YouTube Videos Incubus pilot, any ISK donated is used to purchase new ships
The Attorney General 1701	Posted - 2013.12.26 18:42:00 - [20] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Never played pc cuz it freezes my system, but thanks for making baseless assumptions. Fg is the only AV weapon worth a damn, but against a full squad of tanks i4s marginally effective at best. Any not terrible tanker knows that forcing an AV switch is a win even before you start racking up the kills, add in the lack of cost and sp requirements and you get a game where tank drivers desperately claim that balance and skill is what makes them so good. Some of us vets know better You never played in any of the Zion vs OSG fights? Is there another member of OSG with DUST as the first part of their username? A full squad of tanks obviously requires more than one person running AV, that is simple math. If someone attempts to solo four or more tanks, then they are deserving of the deaths they will take. You don't force an AV switch, smart players come out looking for the tanks at the start of the match. I don't wait for three tanks to show up before I grab my forge, I bring it from the start and go for them. I don't let them get comfortable and established, I harass and harry them until they go pop. If there is more than 2 tanks, I get some backup, either in the form of a logi to keep me stocked up and repped, or another AV troop to save us time. If you run AV, given the current meta, it is a full time job, not a oh look a tank, here let me lob some fire and forget swarms at them and laugh as they explode as it used to be. AV is not as hard as you scrubs make it sound. You just are really bad at playing the game, and instead of getting better you scream OP! Mr. Hybrid Vayu.

DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 9369	Posted - 2013.12.26 18:47:00 - [21] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: . AV is not as hard as you scrubs make it sound. You just are really bad at playing the game, and instead of getting better you scream OP! Tankimg is not as hard as you scrubs make it sound. You just are really bad at playing the game, and instead of getting better you cry balance! P.S. Im almost exclusively an incubus pilot because its fun and takes skill, and this game is a total joke right now, so why bother risking far more isk than any of these militia tanks floating around. I know you feel skilled now, but bad balance is what's giving you the edge YouTube Videos Incubus pilot, any ISK donated is used to purchase new ships
TunRa Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 274	Posted - 2013.12.26 18:49:00 - [22] - Quote The militia tanks are the reason I started running my AT tank. Thanks CCP Foxfour
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 4321	Posted - 2013.12.26 18:54:00 - [23] - Quote i liked the lone pc user at 3:50, i admire his stupid bravery and persistence. Lv 4 forum warrior Bringer of Bacon Knight of AMV's
The Attorney General 1702	Posted - 2013.12.26 18:56:00 - [24] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Tankimg is not as hard as you scrubs make it sound. You just are really bad at playing the game, and instead of getting better you cry balance! P.S. Im almost exclusively an incubus pilot because its fun and takes skill, and this game is a total joke right now, so why bother risking far more isk than any of these militia tanks floating around. I know you feel skilled now, but bad balance is what's giving you the edge I was saying that tanking wasn't that hard at the start of Uprising, and telling people like Charlotte to cut out all the complaining. But of course, no one will remember that when these types of discussions are brought up. because it doesn't serve your view of all tankers being a single mass of people. A slight nerf to swarms and AV nades, a buff to the PLC and a fix to rendering would have made the old tanks fine. These current tanks have actually driven me from the game. There is no skill in tanking now, no tactics save see the other guy first. Which is just boring. The recent patch ruined tanking in my eyes. Which is why Attorney doesn't log on for more than a match. I would rather play on my heavy and have a challenge than laugh at idiots who don't know what they are doing try to run AV. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 9370	Posted - 2013.12.26 19:05:00 - [25] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Tankimg is not as hard as you scrubs make it sound. You just are really bad at playing the game, and instead of getting better you cry balance! P.S. Im almost exclusively an incubus pilot because its fun and takes skill, and this game is a total joke right now, so why bother risking far more isk than any of these militia tanks floating around. I know you feel skilled now, but bad balance is what's giving you the edge I was saying that tanking wasn't that hard at the start of Uprising, and telling people like Charlotte to cut out all the complaining. But of course, no one will remember that when these types of discussions are brought up. because it doesn't serve your view of all tankers being a single mass of people. A slight nerf to swarms and AV nades, a buff to the PLC and a fix to rendering would have made the old tanks fine. These current tanks have actually driven me from the game. There is no skill in tanking now, no tactics save see the other guy first. Which is just boring. The recent patch ruined tanking in my eyes. Which is why Attorney doesn't log on for more than a match. I would rather play on my heavy and have a challenge than laugh at idiots who don't know what they are doing try to run AV. At least we can agree to that, MUDFLAPS made me respect tankers but I just cant respect 1.7 tanks. I fly for the challenge, though red line rail tanks make me rage quit typically. Swarms are just garbage even against my Incubus with my hardener down, and Im talking 2 or 3 advanced and proto swarms shooting me at once. PC is still garbage and only proto forge guns or a few well focused forge shots from a coordinated squad will scare me off usually. This game is all about large railguns right now YouTube Videos Incubus pilot, any ISK donated is used to purchase new ships
fragmentedhackslash FREE AGENTS LP 40	Posted - 2013.12.26 19:46:00 - [26] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: [quote=The Attorney General][quote=CrotchGrab 360] If I lose a tank it is to a rail tank. EDIT: or a squad of FREE AGENTS Pain is just weakness leaving your body. Every day is a holiday. Every meal is a feast.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 1443	Posted - 2013.12.26 19:59:00 - [27] - Quote GeneralButtNaked wrote: blah blah blah blah blah You're in Zion TCD, therefore your opinions on literally all the things are irrelevant.


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