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COHLE DUST University Ivy League 17	Posted - 2013.12.26 04:22:00 - [31] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: The only option for killing vehicles is another vehicle, the only option for infantry is hiding in buildings. CCP's reasoning: 'because'. Completely false. I used my FG to kill 6 tanks today playing on my heavy alt. Didn't need anyone else, didn't need a tank. Just my trusty assault forge and the willingness to actually do a job. Running AV isn't difficult if you have the right tools for the job. If you think those tools include things that track for you, then you have failed the skill test necessary to do AV work. This patch has been out for two weeks, you would think people would have gotten themselves to at least an advanced FG by now. I have to agree, the most dangerous thing, I've encountered when running even a Madrugar. Because of my slowness and tendency to get stuck. XD "I am the punishment of God. Had you not commited great sins, God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you."
Aizen Intiki Hell's Gate Inc 596	Posted - 2013.12.26 04:38:00 - [32] - Quote Freshticles wrote: COHLE wrote: Freshticles wrote: It's a lose lose situation, proper tankers are ruined by the current strength in numbers situation. There's no point in me using proper tank fits, because a bunch of militia rails will kill any tank, sica to gunnlogi. The current situation (and I do this myself lest the enemy team do it) is to get a bunch of tanks out at the start to get rid of any enemy tanks, a rail then camps the redline to stop any of the opposition calling in tanks or Jihads while anti infantry tanks go to town because AV is not strong enough to eliminate them alone. It's not fun for anyone. Have you tried using madrugar with hardeners and nitrous with large blaster? I've found that this negates the damage abilities of the rail while providing the speed and turret rotation ability to get critical hits from behind their tank. Iv'e also found that if you have a guy watching over you with a rail and calling out targets, you won't get jumped nearly as often. If you have another tanker with you, that's just strength in numbers, the outcome is the same regardless of grade of tank. And using a blaster to attack vehicles is suicide. Oh really? Then why do I do it all the time? It's just that missiles and rails are OP. "Hello, world!" lol, sounds like something a whore lover would say Alt of the great Godin I like chocolate ^___^
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1575	Posted - 2013.12.26 04:55:00 - [33] - Quote FC 360 wrote: I seem to be having problems with vehicles since 1.7, If the opponent has vehicles I'm dead and my team cannot win no matter what we do. It seems if you have vehicles within the first few seconds of spawning the game is already won. This is causing me some issues as I'm not earning enough SP to unlock new skills that might help me fight Vehicles which really irritates me. For me to actually win games now I would have to pay via AUR but I thought this game wasn't pay to win? Are Vehicles Over powered or am I just playing the game when all the pro players are offline? I have noticed that I'm able to take away a vehicles shields but then the vehicle starts glowing, I'm guessing this glowing thing is a hardening shield? I'm also going to guess this increases the shields so any attack does less damage to it which is very frustrating when your at my level of exp, which isn't a very high level. So I'm curious is anyone else having similar issues and do the more experienced players have any pointers they would like to share about how to combat vehicles? The wep I'm using now on my AV setup is swarm launchers as that's all I can afford to unlock right now :( Is this your first time on the forum? Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
Lorhak Gannarsein 892	Posted - 2013.12.26 05:04:00 - [34] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: FC 360 wrote: I seem to be having problems with vehicles since 1.7, If the opponent has vehicles I'm dead and my team cannot win no matter what we do. It seems if you have vehicles within the first few seconds of spawning the game is already won. This is causing me some issues as I'm not earning enough SP to unlock new skills that might help me fight Vehicles which really irritates me. For me to actually win games now I would have to pay via AUR but I thought this game wasn't pay to win? Are Vehicles Over powered or am I just playing the game when all the pro players are offline? I have noticed that I'm able to take away a vehicles shields but then the vehicle starts glowing, I'm guessing this glowing thing is a hardening shield? I'm also going to guess this increases the shields so any attack does less damage to it which is very frustrating when your at my level of exp, which isn't a very high level. So I'm curious is anyone else having similar issues and do the more experienced players have any pointers they would like to share about how to combat vehicles? The wep I'm using now on my AV setup is swarm launchers as that's all I can afford to unlock right now :( Is this your first time on the forum? Be gentle with him! PRO tanker and proud. Lentarr Legionary.
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 281	Posted - 2013.12.26 05:15:00 - [35] - Quote THUNDERGROOVE wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: FC 360 wrote: I seem to be having problems with vehicles since 1.7, If the opponent has vehicles I'm dead and my team cannot win no matter what we do. It seems if you have vehicles within the first few seconds of spawning the game is already won. This is causing me some issues as I'm not earning enough SP to unlock new skills that might help me fight Vehicles which really irritates me. For me to actually win games now I would have to pay via AUR but I thought this game wasn't pay to win? Are Vehicles Over powered or am I just playing the game when all the pro players are offline? I have noticed that I'm able to take away a vehicles shields but then the vehicle starts glowing, I'm guessing this glowing thing is a hardening shield? I'm also going to guess this increases the shields so any attack does less damage to it which is very frustrating when your at my level of exp, which isn't a very high level. So I'm curious is anyone else having similar issues and do the more experienced players have any pointers they would like to share about how to combat vehicles? The wep I'm using now on my AV setup is swarm launchers as that's all I can afford to unlock right now :( The only option for killing vehicles is another vehicle, the only option for infantry is hiding in buildings. CCP's reasoning: 'because'. This is only because instead of coming up with an agreement for AV changes, you all continued to say "NOPE AV IS FINE CCP, WORKING AS INTENDED. ALL THAT STUFF TANKERS SAY IS JUST QQ". Sooo you all got nerfed into the ground, which is fine. More WP for me, since most of the old AV scrubs say "What? I can't tower camp all game, DOES NOT COMPUTE" Nope. CCP has their own plan, and it doesn't really involve forum warriors. There will be bullets. ACR+SMG
calvin b SCAVENGER'S DAUGHTER 1307	Posted - 2013.12.26 05:34:00 - [36] - Quote FC 360 wrote: I seem to be having problems with vehicles since 1.7, If the opponent has vehicles I'm dead and my team cannot win no matter what we do. It seems if you have vehicles within the first few seconds of spawning the game is already won. This is causing me some issues as I'm not earning enough SP to unlock new skills that might help me fight Vehicles which really irritates me. For me to actually win games now I would have to pay via AUR but I thought this game wasn't pay to win? Are Vehicles Over powered or am I just playing the game when all the pro players are offline? I have noticed that I'm able to take away a vehicles shields but then the vehicle starts glowing, I'm guessing this glowing thing is a hardening shield? I'm also going to guess this increases the shields so any attack does less damage to it which is very frustrating when your at my level of exp, which isn't a very high level. So I'm curious is anyone else having similar issues and do the more experienced players have any pointers they would like to share about how to combat vehicles? The wep I'm using now on my AV setup is swarm launchers as that's all I can afford to unlock right now :( Skill into RE's(remote explosives) buy a militia LAV, place RE on front of vehicle and ram that S*** right into that tank. Problem solved. TANK514 another sign of cancer in the game
KenKaniff69 Fatal Absolution 1693	Posted - 2013.12.26 06:51:00 - [37] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: The only option for killing vehicles is another vehicle, the only option for infantry is hiding in buildings. CCP's reasoning: 'because'. Completely false. I used my FG to kill 6 tanks today playing on my heavy alt. Didn't need anyone else, didn't need a tank. Just my trusty assault forge and the willingness to actually do a job. Running AV isn't difficult if you have the right tools for the job. If you think those tools include things that track for you, then you have failed the skill test necessary to do AV work. This patch has been out for two weeks, you would think people would have gotten themselves to at least an advanced FG by now. Proto forge still allows me to solo 9/10 of the tanks I see in pubs. Agreed. Advanced does the job just as well. High alpha is key. So about those vehicle locks...
Ryme Intrinseca The Rainbow Effect 526	Posted - 2013.12.26 12:20:00 - [38] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: The only option for killing vehicles is another vehicle, the only option for infantry is hiding in buildings. CCP's reasoning: 'because'. Completely false. I used my FG to kill 6 tanks today playing on my heavy alt. Didn't need anyone else, didn't need a tank. Just my trusty assault forge and the willingness to actually do a job. Running AV isn't difficult if you have the right tools for the job. If you think those tools include things that track for you, then you have failed the skill test necessary to do AV work. This patch has been out for two weeks, you would think people would have gotten themselves to at least an advanced FG by now. I have a proficiency 5 forge gun. Have done for about 6 months. I don't have even 1 SP in swarm launchers. It's possible to kill tanks with a forge gun. The issue is that you can do that much more effectively in a rail tank, no matter how much SP you have in FGs. For a decent player a typical round in a militia rail tank is maybe 12-1? A player of the same ability on the ground with a proto suit and forge is maybe looking at 12-3. Even if you kill as many tanks with the forge, you've died three times as often, and lost about 4 or 5 times as much ISK. The solution is not to increase the price of militia tanks. If you do that, people will just put their points into standard tanks, that 12-1 will be a 15-0, and the forge will be even less competitive. The forge itself needs a buff.
FC 360 Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 4	Posted - 2013.12.30 23:39:00 - [39] - Quote Well I'm definitely doing better now, I've got 2 setups right now, 1 heavy with Re's and AV grenades and a scout with a similar setup, I use the scout to try and run to the tank and plant some RE's although I tend to use my Heavy mostly as that's more of a all rounder as it's able to fight vehicles and infantry. So thank you everyone for the help :)
FAKIR REDETTa 0uter.Heaven 57	Posted - 2013.12.30 23:42:00 - [40] - Quote FC 360 wrote: I seem to be having problems with vehicles since 1.7, If the opponent has vehicles I'm dead and my team cannot win no matter what we do. It seems if you have vehicles within the first few seconds of spawning the game is already won. This is causing me some issues as I'm not earning enough SP to unlock new skills that might help me fight Vehicles which really irritates me. For me to actually win games now I would have to pay via AUR but I thought this game wasn't pay to win? Are Vehicles Over powered or am I just playing the game when all the pro players are offline? I have noticed that I'm able to take away a vehicles shields but then the vehicle starts glowing, I'm guessing this glowing thing is a hardening shield? I'm also going to guess this increases the shields so any attack does less damage to it which is very frustrating when your at my level of exp, which isn't a very high level. So I'm curious is anyone else having similar issues and do the more experienced players have any pointers they would like to share about how to combat vehicles? The wep I'm using now on my AV setup is swarm launchers as that's all I can afford to unlock right now :( adapt or die

FAKIR REDETTa 0uter.Heaven 61	Posted - 2013.12.30 23:43:00 - [41] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: FC 360 wrote: I seem to be having problems with vehicles since 1.7, If the opponent has vehicles I'm dead and my team cannot win no matter what we do. It seems if you have vehicles within the first few seconds of spawning the game is already won. This is causing me some issues as I'm not earning enough SP to unlock new skills that might help me fight Vehicles which really irritates me. For me to actually win games now I would have to pay via AUR but I thought this game wasn't pay to win? Are Vehicles Over powered or am I just playing the game when all the pro players are offline? I have noticed that I'm able to take away a vehicles shields but then the vehicle starts glowing, I'm guessing this glowing thing is a hardening shield? I'm also going to guess this increases the shields so any attack does less damage to it which is very frustrating when your at my level of exp, which isn't a very high level. So I'm curious is anyone else having similar issues and do the more experienced players have any pointers they would like to share about how to combat vehicles? The wep I'm using now on my AV setup is swarm launchers as that's all I can afford to unlock right now :( Is this your first time on the forum? u qq allthe ******* day
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 3353	Posted - 2013.12.31 00:09:00 - [42] - Quote Dual-hardeners are the only problem with vehicles. Otherwise, infantry need to realize their place. Vehicles are for open spaces, infantry are for fighting in-doors. If you don't go out in the open, vehicles can't do **** to you, and you can't hack from inside an HAV. We used to have a time machine
hgghyujh Expert Intervention Caldari State 207	Posted - 2013.12.31 01:33:00 - [43] - Quote vehicle will tilt the battle in you favor if you field them, but I've been in matches that were being dominated from the get go with tanks, and me and a corp mate drop in some unskilled MLT tanks and turn the fight around, good AV can do the same thing but takes more people and there for will need a stronger team. tho when CCP returns damage WP against vehicles expect a lot more dedicated AV on the field( I know I for one will get back into dedicated AV at that point) which will help keep AV in check.
FC 360 Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 6	Posted - 2014.01.12 18:38:00 - [44] - Quote Although I have adapted to the new vehicles finally it seems quite a lot of ppl haven't which is a shame lol. The amount of ppl that go running out of a building while there is a vehicle shooting at the door is ridiculous
Kovinis Sparagas Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 117	Posted - 2014.01.12 18:40:00 - [45] - Quote Contra spawn your own HAV I support BPO removal; RDV to take your vehicles back; and racial weapons on starter fits
Zimander Tickle My Null-Sac 25	Posted - 2014.01.12 18:42:00 - [46] - Quote FC 360 wrote: I seem to be having problems with vehicles since 1.7, If the opponent has vehicles I'm dead and my team cannot win no matter what we do. It seems if you have vehicles within the first few seconds of spawning the game is already won. This is causing me some issues as I'm not earning enough SP to unlock new skills that might help me fight Vehicles which really irritates me. For me to actually win games now I would have to pay via AUR but I thought this game wasn't pay to win? Are Vehicles Over powered or am I just playing the game when all the pro players are offline? I have noticed that I'm able to take away a vehicles shields but then the vehicle starts glowing, I'm guessing this glowing thing is a hardening shield? I'm also going to guess this increases the shields so any attack does less damage to it which is very frustrating when your at my level of exp, which isn't a very high level. So I'm curious is anyone else having similar issues and do the more experienced players have any pointers they would like to share about how to combat vehicles? The wep I'm using now on my AV setup is swarm launchers as that's all I can afford to unlock right now :( Proximity Remote Explosive or Remote Explosive with flux grande always work 4me
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3380	Posted - 2014.01.12 18:59:00 - [47] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Completely false. I used my FG to kill 6 tanks today playing on my heavy alt. Didn't need anyone else, didn't need a tank. Just my trusty assault forge and the willingness to actually do a job. Running AV isn't difficult if you have the right tools for the job. If you think those tools include things that track for you, then you have failed the skill test necessary to do AV work. This patch has been out for two weeks, you would think people would have gotten themselves to at least an advanced FG by now. KenKaniff69 wrote: Proto forge still allows me to solo 9/10 of the tanks I see in pubs. Agreed. Advanced does the job just as well. High alpha is key. *FORGE MASTER RACE* CoD -----> <----- WoT Please AR Scrubs and Tank Spammers, go to your respective games. Leave DUST alone!


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