DUST Search - redline sniping

rretri bution wrote:

Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:

people dont understand that the point of the sniper is too pick off those unlucky enough to get caught within thier sights. due to the fact that the sniper is practically immboile while aiaming and at a extreme range where the target cannot shoot back to kill them thehy complain about the sniper killing them from 400m+ and call them usless. ]

he point of the sniper is to pick off those unlucky enough to get shot by them. so people complain about the sniper because hes in the redline killing them from a safe distance where they cant shoot back. so people complaina bout the sniper that killed them just beacue the sniper is doing his job from longrange killing them.

the target must be ex[ecting to be killed by the sniper rifle at 80m or something? that would be stupid as the sniper puts himdelf at risk by being that close. so when you have a rifle with 200+ plus damage per shot that fires incredibly slow why wouldnt oyu be 400+ meteres away where your nice and safe?

people are just complaining about the fact thier being killed by a sniper doing his job of picking you off from a safe distance.

the point of a sniper? lol, really!

The point of a sniper is to sneak deep behind enemy lines and provide recon for his team, the point of a sniper is to support the infantry that are out on the field. Imagine you are in a war and you see a sniper hiding in your base and he can't see the area that your troops are in and he can't support them, he is just sitting comfortably at the base which so far away from the fight that he is ineffective, wouldn't that make you angry?

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Wallaby1 The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 58	Posted - 2013.12.25 11:43:00 - [1] - Quote sniping is a legit tactic HTFU peeps snipers have **** wp anyway 90% of the time , honestly i h8 snipers ! there annoying as hell but that doesnt give me the rite to demand their removal . same with tanks stop "demanding" nerfs like damn children
Racro 01 Arifistan 501st Knights of Leanbox INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 92	Posted - 2013.12.25 11:53:00 - [2] - Quote people dont understand that the point of the sniper is too pick off those unlucky enough to get caught within thier sights. due to the fact that the sniper is practically immboile while aiaming and at a extreme range where the target cannot shoot back to kill them thehy complain about the sniper killing them from 400m+ and call them usless. ] he point of the sniper is to pick off those unlucky enough to get shot by them. so people complain about the sniper because hes in the redline killing them from a safe distance where they cant shoot back. so people complaina bout the sniper that killed them just beacue the sniper is doing his job from longrange killing them. the target must be ex[ecting to be killed by the sniper rifle at 80m or something? that would be stupid as the sniper puts himdelf at risk by being that close. so when you have a rifle with 200+ plus damage per shot that fires incredibly slow why wouldnt oyu be 400+ meteres away where your nice and safe? people are just complaining about the fact thier being killed by a sniper doing his job of picking you off from a safe distance.
rretri bution 11	Posted - 2013.12.25 12:04:00 - [3] - Quote Stop trying to justify a cowardly, sissy tactic, I snipe out on the feild all the time I run round the field with nothing but a nt511, a scrambler pistol, locus grenades and a scout suit, I find a spot, hide, get a couple kills, then when my cover is blown I move on to another spot I have success in doing this, If i have to fight someone I pull out my pistol and use grenades, you are trying to say that sniping out on the field is impossible, its not, it just takes skill, which redline snipers lack, Its cheap to attack someone from a place that they cannot attack you!
rretri bution 11	Posted - 2013.12.25 12:07:00 - [4] - Quote Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: people dont understand that the point of the sniper is too pick off those unlucky enough to get caught within thier sights. due to the fact that the sniper is practically immboile while aiaming and at a extreme range where the target cannot shoot back to kill them thehy complain about the sniper killing them from 400m+ and call them usless. ] he point of the sniper is to pick off those unlucky enough to get shot by them. so people complain about the sniper because hes in the redline killing them from a safe distance where they cant shoot back. so people complaina bout the sniper that killed them just beacue the sniper is doing his job from longrange killing them. the target must be ex[ecting to be killed by the sniper rifle at 80m or something? that would be stupid as the sniper puts himdelf at risk by being that close. so when you have a rifle with 200+ plus damage per shot that fires incredibly slow why wouldnt oyu be 400+ meteres away where your nice and safe? people are just complaining about the fact thier being killed by a sniper doing his job of picking you off from a safe distance. the point of a sniper? lol, really! The point of a sniper is to sneak deep behind enemy lines and provide recon for his team, the point of a sniper is to support the infantry that are out on the field. Imagine you are in a war and you see a sniper hiding in your base and he can't see the area that your troops are in and he can't support them, he is just sitting comfortably at the base which so far away from the fight that he is ineffective, wouldn't that make you angry?
Poonmunch Sanguis Defense Syndicate 704	Posted - 2013.12.25 16:37:00 - [5] - Quote rretri bution wrote: Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: people dont understand that the point of the sniper is too pick off those unlucky enough to get caught within thier sights. due to the fact that the sniper is practically immboile while aiaming and at a extreme range where the target cannot shoot back to kill them thehy complain about the sniper killing them from 400m+ and call them usless. ] he point of the sniper is to pick off those unlucky enough to get shot by them. so people complain about the sniper because hes in the redline killing them from a safe distance where they cant shoot back. so people complaina bout the sniper that killed them just beacue the sniper is doing his job from longrange killing them. the target must be ex[ecting to be killed by the sniper rifle at 80m or something? that would be stupid as the sniper puts himdelf at risk by being that close. so when you have a rifle with 200+ plus damage per shot that fires incredibly slow why wouldnt oyu be 400+ meteres away where your nice and safe? people are just complaining about the fact thier being killed by a sniper doing his job of picking you off from a safe distance. the point of a sniper? lol, really! The point of a sniper is to sneak deep behind enemy lines and provide recon for his team, the point of a sniper is to support the infantry that are out on the field. Imagine you are in a war and you see a sniper hiding in your base and he can't see the area that your troops are in and he can't support them, he is just sitting comfortably at the base which so far away from the fight that he is ineffective, wouldn't that make you angry? Both are valid points. I do both during the same game, but mostly I'm in places where I put myself at risk for direct attack. If redlining can do something good for the team like locking down one or more objectives, it makes sense. I can kill reds going for the hack, cover blues counter-hacking and counter-hack myself. Redlining isn't my preferred tactic though, because I'm always open to counter sniping. A fair number of my kills are counter snipes. Especially guys hiding in the redline. I have sometimes been counter-sniped by CQC guys who I just killed. They spawn in a militia sniper fit and kill me right back. If you are too lazy to counter-snipe me, or get your team sniper to counter-snipe me, then the problem is yours. So far in FW I've been TK'd twice. Probably by people who think snipers are somehow not valid or are cowards. One guy followed me around watching me hack and lay down uplinks and nanohives. He kept shooting me without killing me (doing a ton of cumulative damage to me). Then when I squatted to nail a red going for a hack, the guy following me killed me. He disappeared from the game right after that - likely for getting a 24 hour auto ban for doing lots of friendly fire damage. Another guy kept running into me, standing in front of me and doing non-lethal melee attacks. Up to that point I'd gone 11/0, sniped a bunch of red uplinks and nanohives and locked down two objectives. I'd built up a ton of WP from the uplinks and nanohives I'd spread around the battlefield. Near the end of the game he started putting RE's around me. When I noticed this, I moved away before he could blow them. In the end he finally just killed me while I was lining up a shot on a red squad leader during the last few seconds of the match. Neither of these guys were doing anything useful to support our team for the whole game. They were just taking up space and hassling me. All because they had some silly point they felt they needed to make. Munch Dedicated Sniper. Minmatar Patriot (5).
RKKR The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 566	Posted - 2013.12.25 16:40:00 - [6] - Quote it's also a legit tactic to lose all your objectives and turn the game in a boring waiting game. I demand a elevator-tune when the whole opposite team is in the redline! PS: do you guys get a hard-on if you finally manage to kill a cheap suit with your sniper? The point is: it can be good an bad, for most it's bad though.
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Redline Defense Force Seekers of the Unseen 113	Posted - 2013.12.25 16:43:00 - [7] - Quote All valid, but sitting on the redline and NOT shooting is a cowards tactics cause they don't have the balls to take a shot. Long-range support and being a coward are two completely different things. 'Don't talk to strangers, shoot them.' Snow LOCKOUT Dropship Pilot Scout Devotee Remaining invisible is my thing
Ryder Azorria Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 753	Posted - 2013.12.25 16:49:00 - [8] - Quote Sniping is most definitely a legitimate tactic, and when done well can swing a match - redline sniping on the other hand is an example of doing it badly, and will often cost the match.
Poonmunch Sanguis Defense Syndicate 704	Posted - 2013.12.25 17:19:00 - [9] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: All valid, but sitting on the redline and NOT shooting is a cowards tactics cause they don't have the balls to take a shot. Long-range support and being a coward are two completely different things. The problem is that most people can't tell the difference. Not unless they watch a sniper for a whole game. If you are watching a sniper for a whole game, you are a waste of space. Most people never know about the two reds I kill running towards a blue guy starting a hack. He finishes the hack and runs off, thinking he was lucky and smiling to himself. Most people don't know that I killed the driver of that orphan red LAV that they find and steal. Most people don't know about the red uplinks and nanohives I snipe, allowing objectives to be less well reinforced. Most people don't know about the objectives I lock down behind the battle. All they see is a row of blue objectives on their HUD. It keeps morale up. Most people don't know about the red swarm launcher guys I kill to save blue tanks. Most people don't realize how much I frustrate and distract the red team during a firefight. Most people don't realize that the red proto fatty with 10% armor was made that way by me. Now you can take him out with ease. Most people don't count the times I hack. Most people don't count the bodies I stack up. The problem is that a few people just want to punish us because they don't understand what proper snipers do during a game. The self-appointed vigilantes who TK us are just pig-headed ignorant gits. Munch Dedicated Sniper. Minmatar Patriot (5).
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 1386	Posted - 2013.12.25 17:32:00 - [10] - Quote I don't kill snipers unless I see them far in the redline, I've played this game enough to know were the redlines start and end. But if your on the kill feed or I actively see you causing damage to enemies aka assist then your safe for the match. "The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein

Mitch Laurence The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 10	Posted - 2013.12.25 17:38:00 - [11] - Quote People only complain when an effective sniper is redlining like the kill feed belongs to him. When theres a garbage player sitting in the hills no one cares. Same with tanks. I snipe exclusively unless I'm flying somewhere, so you would think my mailbox would be full of hate-mail. Instead I get a lot of love notes that say things like: excellent shooting, or wow GG, or join my corp we could use you, or dude that was 1/3 of the team you just killed. On the WP aspect it's true, I've only ever got a solo orbital twice. Thats 35 or more kills + 3-4 well placed uplinks in a locked squad if you wanna try it for yourself(I dont really run logi anymore). I think a good tanker should get solo orbitals with a cru onboard pretty easily. But if I'm in a squad it's guaranteed that I supply at least half an orbital for my SL. "People will say we're in love." -Hannibal Lecter
Thorn Badblood Dust2Dust. Top Men. 119	Posted - 2013.12.25 17:42:00 - [12] - Quote Sniper's aren't the problem. its being able to snipe from the safety of the redline with no chance of being killed thats the problem D2D. A Non-Prophet Organization
Zirzo Valcyn Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 20	Posted - 2013.12.25 18:01:00 - [13] - Quote i like snipers they actaully die vs my nose cannon u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll.
Tek Hound Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 162	Posted - 2013.12.25 18:33:00 - [14] - Quote I like sniping and understand how you should play it but in dust -people want to increase k/d and screw their team -want to earn sp and isk with little effort -more than half the team sniping from redline is no fun -Your the only one playing objective while others snipe -sniping is way to easy -Redline sniping is just bottom feeding -Redline sniping is even allowed -player size battles are just too small -Losing a high isk suit to someone who's not even helping his/her team is annoying(if you say they are by killing then murder taxis were too) -alot of players resort to sniping with little effort when losing by a little


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