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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.25 08:16:00 -
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Been doing it myself lately with mixed results, story of my life in the scout role, want to see if others were still doing it as well.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 3
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Vicious Minotaur
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
456
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Posted - 2013.12.25 08:20:00 -
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I dusted off a few of my old speed tanked Minmatar scouts I made before hit detection was fixed and aim-assist was implemented.
Perhaps I was just rusty, but I was unable to attain the state of being that is called "having fun." |
Lynn Beck
Granite Mercenary Division Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.12.25 08:21:00 -
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I will- once i hit dampenin 5 and can dodge a 28 Db with one mod, till then its dual damps. (Have you tried switching the SG on the black eagle for a plc? I'm 1 cpu short and need to swap out the extender to get there.
Under 28db
Officially nerfproof (predicting CR nerf February '14)
I have a God, His name is Dakka.
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Knight Soiaire
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
3978
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Posted - 2013.12.25 10:08:00 -
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I use to run two Complex Kin Catz, but now I fit a CPU Mod.
...... stupid CPU ......
DUST is so broken, even my PS3 refuses to let me play it.
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
158
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Posted - 2013.12.25 10:41:00 -
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I run an enhanced kin cat and cardio regulator on one of my main scout fits, which I'll upgrade to complex one I've got the skill for it. Only use it for ranging though, not assault. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2013.12.25 11:00:00 -
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I'm running kincats on my new Minnie scouts.
Level 6 Forum Warrior
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
R 0 N 1 N
201
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Posted - 2013.12.25 11:04:00 -
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I've minnie L4 scouts, one with dual complex kincats, one with a single + CPU boost.
I've tried without but.....must....have....speed.
Not that it does me any good. Not played scout at all this patch anyway - scout hiatus. |
Piraten Hovnoret
No Tax Scrubs
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Posted - 2013.12.25 11:07:00 -
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I am a logi but I realised almost al my core skills are at 5 and that I have the dren logi suit. ( the blizz of complex dampness =ƒÿ¥)
Having a blast with it and decided to spec into proto. Run more scout now Then anything now =ƒÿ£
Any pointers for a new born scout |
rretri bution
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Posted - 2013.12.25 11:21:00 -
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Piraten Hovnoret wrote:I am a logi but I realised almost al my core skills are at 5 and that I have the dren logi suit. ( the blizz of complex dampness =ƒÿ¥)
Having a blast with it and decided to spec into proto. Run more scout now Then anything now =ƒÿ£
Any pointers for a new born scout
join the chat channel "scouts united"
Join the corp "R 0 N 1 N", its a scout universtiy
the way I fit my scouts, I never use armor, it will slow you down, always use kin kats and cardiacs. with the weaponry you are facing out there armor will not save you, for example a standard armor plate is 110 hp thats 4 AR rounds, if someone gets a bead on you you are going to die anyway, you mine as well have speed to escape and to dodge bullets.
The first thing I would do would be to get your biotics to level 5, now you have a speed bonus that is like wearing a catalyzer.
Next get scout suit 3, profile dampening 4, now you beat advanced and basic scanners passively. For scouts its all about speed and stealth, that is your survivability, not hp.
The only time I would consider plates on a scout would be the proto gallente scout, because it has 4 low slots.
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ZiwZih
Seraphim Initiative..
307
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Posted - 2013.12.25 11:41:00 -
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Seems that reported toning down of AA helped a bit. |
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I-Shayz-I
I-----I
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Posted - 2013.12.25 11:54:00 -
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This thread made me think about how fun it was back in chromosome to speed tank a minmatar logi...
4 extenders (or 3 and an energizer) 2 kin cats 2 of the following 3: -shield regulator -cardio regulator -profile dampener
As a strictly support role you just run in, heal people up, drop some links and hives and get out. In chromosome you had to run an armor repair because you couldn't rely on just your shields, but I could still see it functioning...just haven't tried it in a while.
It requires a pure avoidance of the enemy though. Maybe a short/medium range weapon for insurance, but man it's just a completely different experience from the regular logi stuff.
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Piraten Hovnoret
No Tax Scrubs
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Posted - 2013.12.25 12:51:00 -
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rretri bution wrote:Piraten Hovnoret wrote:I am a logi but I realised almost al my core skills are at 5 and that I have the dren logi suit. ( the blizz of complex dampness =ƒÿ¥)
Having a blast with it and decided to spec into proto. Run more scout now Then anything now =ƒÿ£
Any pointers for a new born scout join the chat channel "scouts united" Join the corp "R 0 N 1 N", its a scout universtiy the way I fit my scouts, I never use armor, it will slow you down, always use kin kats and cardiacs. with the weaponry you are facing out there armor will not save you, for example a standard armor plate is 110 hp thats 4 AR rounds, if someone gets a bead on you you are going to die anyway, you mine as well have speed to escape and to dodge bullets. The first thing I would do would be to get your biotics to level 5, now you have a speed bonus that is like wearing a catalyzer. Next get scout suit 3, profile dampening 4, now you beat advanced and basic scanners passively. For scouts its all about speed and stealth, that is your survivability, not hp. The only time I would consider plates on a scout would be the proto gallente scout, because it has 4 low slots.
Thanx bud
Al My core skils are lvl 5 ( dampening/enhancement/amp/biotic/cardiac/kinetic al the shield and armor at lvl 5, system hacking at obly at lvl 3=ƒÿÅ)
As a logi al my equipment are lvl 5 also ( scaners, uplinks, hives etc etc )
Having a blast putting this into the scouting.
I love it so proto gallante sqout here I come have 100 qufe to burn and 300 aur proto to burn ( remember the 75 % sale they had =ƒÿ£)
Logi going sqout over and out
Edit 300 aur not 500 |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
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Posted - 2013.12.25 13:10:00 -
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Speed unfortunately is less useful for me now. It's fun but definitely not at all worth it from what I've tried. I'm favoring my reactive plates these days.
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mr musturd
0uter.Heaven
183
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Posted - 2013.12.25 13:36:00 -
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I still speed tank. |
tripppy 9001
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.12.25 13:38:00 -
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back in chromo, i ran the scout suit with the two equipment slots. Uplinks and RE's with complex kin cats.
Now since uprising i speced into min logi , base skills and proto kin cats. '
My usual opening suit on a PC battle is proto logi with 4 complex kin cats. and 3 active uplinks +REs
it runs fast stamina is a problem but does the job on the home point.
NOW i run advanced min scout. it works well. mixing it up with profile dampening kin cats and hack mods in the low slots usually uplink or RE's as the equipment.
I have to double the suits. because i cant make a good fit with a advanced logi with speed.
I REALLY MISS THE SCOUT WITH 2 equipment slots.
++One of my favorite fits now is
Minmatar advanced scout shield extender complex sidearm dmg modifier sub machine gun advanced nova knifes enhanced profile dampener basic profile dampener
++and for quick uplinks
basic min scout suit basic precision enhancer flayloc pistol r-9 uplinks complex kin cat enhanced kin cat.
Basically started juggling the kin cats and uplinks. basically wanting at least 2 active uplinks with the left over CPU/PG i could only fit a flayloc (no PG usuage)
I'm not a logi. I'm an insurgent.
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Kahn Zo
Furyan Alpha
161
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Posted - 2013.12.25 16:55:00 -
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yes. yes I do. . . speed kills. . . but, I do enjoy it.
Pure Gallente
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.12.25 16:59:00 -
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I'll only run 1 or 2 complex kincats.
I think I can get 9.02-10.01, fast enough for this build.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
1384
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Posted - 2013.12.25 17:05:00 -
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:( The Amarr have no scout so I don't get to play as my preferred role.
"The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
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Protected Void
Endless Hatred
210
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Posted - 2013.12.25 17:35:00 -
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I don't know if it counts as tanking, but I have 1 complex KinCat on all my fittings. Just can't do without it.
Also, I have a proto runner suit with 3 complex KinCats and a green pill, but that's mainly just used at the start of matches to get quickly into the action.
Other than that, the closest I get to tanking is scan range. |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
969
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Posted - 2013.12.25 17:39:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Been doing it myself lately with mixed results, story of my life in the scout role, want to see if others were still doing it as well. Running a red and a green on my MinjaGǪ all the time non stop
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calvin b
SCAVENGER'S DAUGHTER
1305
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Posted - 2013.12.25 18:04:00 -
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When I run scout its complex kins and stamina or nothing. Even with all that speed I still feel I am running in quicksand.
TANK514 another sign of cancer in the game
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
1035
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Posted - 2013.12.25 18:31:00 -
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My scout fit is evil and fun.
scout m-1 basic shield extender combat rifle assault scrambler pistol sleek locus grenade remote explosives complex reactive plates enhanced profile dampener
as long as I hit and run nothing usually bothers me. I lead with the pistol to make people flee or take cover. When they think I've left I smoke em with the combat rifle from a different direction. If they chase I re them. Its a casual fit that turns out to be extremely effective near the front line. If you try to ninja everyone at once you will die. Who cares? Its like 14k.
There was a time we fought good tankers. Now we just fight good tanks.
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Vesperz
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.12.25 19:05:00 -
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I cant live without my red & green. Biotics are maxed.
An assassin's blade isn't seen nor heard, it is felt.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
2935
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Posted - 2013.12.25 19:39:00 -
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I armor tank my scouts. Though I biotic tank my Caldari suits.
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DTOracle
BlackWater Liquidations INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
193
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Posted - 2013.12.25 20:49:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:I will- once i hit dampenin 5 and can dodge a 28 Db with one mod, till then its dual damps. (Have you tried switching the SG on the black eagle for a plc? I'm 1 cpu short and need to swap out the extender to get there. You'll be better served by going Lvl 5 in your scout suit & lvl 3 dampening w/ a basic dampener. Since they both give the same bonus. But one grants you 2 skill bonuses & a sweet new Dropsuit you'll barely use, & the other gives you a complex module that you will never use as a scout. Maxing out dampening has virtually no benefit to a scout fit.
OT, I still speed tank. Whether I'm droping Uplinks, or chasing a tank, it's that Red & Green cocktail that keeps me going. |
XxWarlordxX97
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
4112
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Posted - 2013.12.25 20:51:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Been doing it myself lately with mixed results, story of my life in the scout role, want to see if others were still doing it as well.
Me
Level 5 forum warrior
A Solo heavy Boss
I support tanks not being OP
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mollerz
Minja Scouts
1444
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Posted - 2013.12.25 20:53:00 -
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I run a complexe Green/Red on my minja. The very act of running, and the endurance mechanic is so wack tho. I crouch for no reason some times. I run in slow motion sometimes as well. I'll get caught on all kinds of terrain and geometry, I'll jump and slow down mid air. It's extremely sloppy as hell, but I try :) |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
1605
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Posted - 2013.12.25 21:13:00 -
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I have never fit any of my scout suits with any hp buff modifiers. Because I feel like if need hp I will pull out my assault or heavy. I skilled into scout just for PC match starting and running around capping outside objectives in pub matches.
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knight of 6
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
903
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Posted - 2013.12.25 21:58:00 -
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I'm still hybrid tanked... if you can call it tanked. (160/162 ADV gallente scout)
I'm thinking about swapping out the stamina mod for a scan range mod but I really like having that extra stamina in a fight.
"God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon
Ko6, scout, tanker.
CLOSED BETA VET
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Ghost Kaisar
Titans of Phoenix
1325
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Posted - 2013.12.25 23:16:00 -
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My Assault suit can get away with speed tanking.
Just not my scout. It's too squishy to speed tank reliably, because even at 10m/s you still get hit far too much.
My 700 eHP Min Assault that sprints at 8.8 does far better than my 350 eHP scout at 10.0
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