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Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2495	Posted - 2013.12.25 00:07:00 - [31] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: why should AV kill with CR, then switch to FG at supply depot. rinse repeat as needed. Thats both AV and Anti infantry According to your logic. Quote: But You Can't Have Both. Well for one there are few supply depots on the map. You can't "rinse and repeat" anything unless your in the redline. Remove the blaster turret and you can do whatever you want to infantry AV. We finally deployed in the MinFW Match! \o/
Soulja Ghostface MCDUSTDONALDS Zero-Day 2130	Posted - 2013.12.25 00:16:00 - [32] - Quote Interesting. So, If blasters turrets are removed you woudn't mind me parking my Gunlogi At An open objective railgun pointed at the blue touch screen. zapping everybody who tries to hack with no fear of Death? If you think blasters are the bane of infantry you have another thing coming earlier today i unleashed state missles on a clusterfuk of reds. EDIT: Or Do You Want All large turrets removed from game ;( *God Favors The Side With The Most Artillery*-Soulja Ghostface
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 2459	Posted - 2013.12.25 00:21:00 - [33] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I got a fugly stick with nails in it to prevent this and I am not afraid to swing it. Also on the bat is suit tericide in which there is no more basic, advanced or prototype suits, just milita and tech 1 tech 2 progression. please do. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 4219	Posted - 2013.12.25 00:23:00 - [34] - Quote proto vehicles? 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Soulja Ghostface MCDUSTDONALDS Zero-Day 2131	Posted - 2013.12.25 00:23:00 - [35] - Quote Swing that bat hard on FG's dont touch the swarms or tanks will be forced to be nerfed *God Favors The Side With The Most Artillery*-Soulja Ghostface
Ryme Intrinseca 427	Posted - 2013.12.25 00:24:00 - [36] - Quote There are already proto tanks, i.e. tanks you need to tackle with proto AV. They're called Somas and Sicas.
Lazy Scumbag Intara Direct Action Caldari State 81	Posted - 2013.12.25 00:30:00 - [37] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: Their Will Be Another Day When I Will Roll Up On Infantry With A HAV That Will Make The Madrugar & Gunlogi Look Like A Childs Toy Train That's the problem now. Tankers wanting to be a one man wrecking crew vs. infantry... and it will lead to AV getting strengthened again. Vehicles need a purpose. Oh, and stealing a quote and giving yourself credit= lame.
Soulja Ghostface MCDUSTDONALDS Zero-Day 2133	Posted - 2013.12.25 00:42:00 - [38] - Quote Quote: that's the problem now. Tankers wanting to be a one man wrecking crew vs. infantry isn't that what a heavily armed and armouredsupport is. Read tank discription. Also, Tanks don't equal hacked objectives so... *God Favors The Side With The Most Artillery*-Soulja Ghostface
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 4219	Posted - 2013.12.25 00:47:00 - [39] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: Quote: that's the problem now. Tankers wanting to be a one man wrecking crew vs. infantry isn't that what a heavily armed and armouredsupport is. Read tank discription. Also, Tanks don't equal hacked objectives so... tanks equal no reddots round the objective so its nearly the same damn thing. imo tanks should fall into 3 catergory's, glass cannon, meatshield, and support. pretty self explanatory, ones high dps, low ehp, the other low dps, high ehp, and the third is low dps, moderate ehp with benefits to support modules like scanning and MCRU's. vehicles should be limited in their fitting, every upside needs a downside, otherwise godmode will happen. Lv 4 forum warrior Bringer of Bacon Knight of AMV's
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 2918	Posted - 2013.12.25 00:50:00 - [40] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I got a fugly stick with nails in it to prevent this and I am not afraid to swing it. Also on the bat is suit tericide in which there is no more basic, advanced or prototype suits, just milita and tech 1 tech 2 progression. Swing first! »We still have our honor!

Soulja Ghostface MCDUSTDONALDS Zero-Day 2133	Posted - 2013.12.25 00:53:00 - [41] - Quote I do agree with the logi tanks you mentioned but. the high damage low ehp tank sounds like an ambush stomper, and you infantry woudnt like that. (it happens anyways lol) no matter how low the dps is, it is still a tank and WILL have somewhat of a Large Cannon. *God Favors The Side With The Most Artillery*-Soulja Ghostface
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 11398	Posted - 2013.12.25 00:57:00 - [42] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I got a fugly stick with nails in it to prevent this and I am not afraid to swing it. Also on the bat is suit tericide in which there is no more basic, advanced or prototype suits, just milita and tech 1 tech 2 progression. Swing first! Oh I have plans to, we're getting meetings set up after the holidays to discuss this. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Rail and Combat Rifle =// Unlocked
Soulja Ghostface MCDUSTDONALDS Zero-Day 2133	Posted - 2013.12.25 01:01:00 - [43] - Quote meetings Plans to quik question: is the Sagaris on your minds? *God Favors The Side With The Most Artillery*-Soulja Ghostface
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 4219	Posted - 2013.12.25 01:02:00 - [44] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: I do agree with the logi tanks you mentioned but. the high damage low ehp tank sounds like an ambush stomper, and you infantry woudnt like that. (it happens anyways lol) no matter how low the dps is, it is still a tank and WILL have somewhat of a Large Cannon. Oh wehn i say low ehp, i mean low ehp, as in solo'able by a swarm launcher, something which relies on its mobility and positioning to survive. of course this would rely on different hull types being introduced. Lv 4 forum warrior Bringer of Bacon Knight of AMV's
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 915	Posted - 2013.12.25 01:28:00 - [45] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: Sica- 2 high slots, -2 lows, soma- 2 low slots, 2 highs, gunlogi-3 highs- 2 lows madugar-3 lows, 2 highs These are values as of 1.7 before 1.7 a STD hull gave 5 highs/lows depending on tank. Why is That? ADV And PRO Tank Hulls Are Coming My Fellow Tank Drivers, We Are Still Holding The Wooden Side Of The Toilet Plunger. AV Will Have To Hold The "Buisness End Of The Stick After 1.7 No thank you, there's no need. Tiericide was the biggest improvement in vehicle gameplay ever in Dust. Feeling the scanner is too simple and off balance? The fix:
Soulja Ghostface MCDUSTDONALDS Zero-Day 2135	Posted - 2013.12.25 01:32:00 - [46] - Quote lol No, buff the swarms a little and give me my 5 high slots back (or ADV and PRO tanks to make scrubs work for it) *God Favors The Side With The Most Artillery*-Soulja Ghostface
Pvt Numnutz Black Phoenix Mercenaries 485	Posted - 2013.12.25 01:39:00 - [47] - Quote Yoma Carrim wrote: I'd be more happy with the return of Enforcers, Marauders, and Black Ops tanks as specializations like Assault Dropships I don't think the Basic, ADV, Prototype model has any place in vehicles to be honest. Better Turrets and modules are fine but leave the Frames alone Agreed, a prototype vehicle is one fitted with prototype mods. Variants should serve as the higher teir. Black ops tanks, marauders, enforcers etc will be the next step after gunnlogi and madrugar.
Soulja Ghostface MCDUSTDONALDS Zero-Day 2136	Posted - 2013.12.25 01:44:00 - [48] - Quote speaking of adding new tanks. i want to know what IWS thinks of logistic tanks... If he is still reading *God Favors The Side With The Most Artillery*-Soulja Ghostface
Lorhak Gannarsein 875	Posted - 2013.12.25 02:11:00 - [49] - Quote I'm guessing Amarr tank will have 1h4l or something like that, actually. Maybe Amarr Marauder will have 5L and be slower than a wet week, but I doubt prototype tanks very much. PRO tanker and proud. Lentarr Legionary.
Shadow of War88 0uter.Heaven 115	Posted - 2013.12.25 02:39:00 - [50] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: in b4 Tanks are OP WAHHHHHHHHH BF4 is a balance wreck. STAFF rounds are semi guided so as long as you fire in the general direction of the enemy you'll hit em. 25% damage a pop, Not a lot but can take out reactive armor and also allows for a secondary 120mm HE round to be fired in rapid succession. DUST > BF4

Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 2390	Posted - 2013.12.25 02:43:00 - [51] - Quote Shadow of War88 wrote: Patrick57 wrote: in b4 Tanks are OP WAHHHHHHHHH BF4 is a balance wreck. STAFF rounds are semi guided so as long as you fire in the general direction of the enemy you'll hit em. 25% damage a pop, Not a lot but can take out reactive armor and also allows for a secondary 120mm HE round to be fired in rapid succession. DUST > BF4 I don't play BF4, and don't have the money to do so, so I have absolutely no clue wtf you just said. When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE! nú+
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 2390	Posted - 2013.12.25 02:46:00 - [52] - Quote Atiim wrote: Rusty Shallows wrote: Patrick57 wrote: in b4 Tanks are OP WAHHHHHHHHH Are you all right there Pat? Sounding anxious and desperate there. Nah, he's just cranky because he stayed up past his bedtime. When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE! nú+
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 1834	Posted - 2013.12.25 02:59:00 - [53] - Quote Atiim wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Atiim wrote: With AV in it's current condition, you can bet your @$$ that you will never receive ADV or PRO vehicles. And you shouldn't either. As it is right now, tanks are their own best counter. If we get ADV hulls, that will continue. If we get PRO hulls, it will still be the same, with tanks being their own best counter. Infantry cannot do everything at once, and shouldn't. Then why should tankers be able to do everything? You want stronger tanks and weak AV? Then you have to remove the Blaster turret. You can have the Cake, or you can have the Pie. But you can't have both. Infantry is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY (notice the emphasis) better at taking out infantry... Lack of content makes stuff broken... GÿåTank driverGÿå
Dj grammer Red Star. EoN. 69	Posted - 2013.12.25 03:04:00 - [54] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I got a fugly stick with nails in it to prevent this and I am not afraid to swing it. Also on the bat is suit tericide in which there is no more basic, advanced or prototype suits, just milita and tech 1 tech 2 progression. Swing first! Oh I have plans to, we're getting meetings set up after the holidays to discuss this. I almost sure that you're joking about the tiercide. If not, all I am going to say is there will be a LOT of pissed off players in this game meaning that this game would be forever remember (if lucky) the game that could have been.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 4222	Posted - 2013.12.25 03:09:00 - [55] - Quote Dj grammer wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I got a fugly stick with nails in it to prevent this and I am not afraid to swing it. Also on the bat is suit tericide in which there is no more basic, advanced or prototype suits, just milita and tech 1 tech 2 progression. Swing first! Oh I have plans to, we're getting meetings set up after the holidays to discuss this. I almost sure that you're joking about the tiercide. If not, all I am going to say is there will be a LOT of pissed off players in this game meaning that this game would be forever remember (if lucky) the game that could have been. tiercide isn't a nerf, its a shift from a top down power system (AKA Proto being the be all, end all gear) to a wider more equal power system. its a change from an everything gets better system to a some things get better at the expense of other things system. the end goal would be something similar to vehicles, where there are no direct upgrades, only specializations with their own unique downsides. Lv 4 forum warrior Bringer of Bacon Knight of AMV's
Dj grammer Red Star. EoN. 69	Posted - 2013.12.25 03:16:00 - [56] - Quote gbghg wrote: Dj grammer wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I got a fugly stick with nails in it to prevent this and I am not afraid to swing it. Also on the bat is suit tericide in which there is no more basic, advanced or prototype suits, just milita and tech 1 tech 2 progression. Swing first! Oh I have plans to, we're getting meetings set up after the holidays to discuss this. I almost sure that you're joking about the tiercide. If not, all I am going to say is there will be a LOT of pissed off players in this game meaning that this game would be forever remember (if lucky) the game that could have been. tiercide isn't a nerf, its a shift from a top down power system (AKA Proto being the be all, end all gear) to a wider more equal power system. its a change from an everything gets better system to a some things get better at the expense of other things system. the end goal would be something similar to vehicles, where there are no direct upgrades, only specializations with their own unique downsides. Hope I am getting this right but something where it is only x suit in z match?
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 4223	Posted - 2013.12.25 03:29:00 - [57] - Quote Dj grammer wrote: gbghg wrote: tiercide isn't a nerf, its a shift from a top down power system (AKA Proto being the be all, end all gear) to a wider more equal power system. its a change from an everything gets better system to a some things get better at the expense of other things system. the end goal would be something similar to vehicles, where there are no direct upgrades, only specializations with their own unique downsides. Hope I am getting this right but something where it is only x suit in z match? kinda, its more like what would happen if you removed proto tiers and were left with only the standard suits, you have your assault suits which would get all kinds of bonuses for that role but with appropriate penalties, same with logi's, scouts etc, as the game progresses new roles get added. tiercide aims for a spectrum of colours, rather than several shades of the same one. okay i'm kinda going overboard with the vague imagery here. but if we say your in a match where maximum slaying is the required role then a suit appropriate for that would be best. of course some support roles would be needed to let the slayers keep slaying, so these support players put themselves at a disadvantage so they can keep their teams effective. its a move towards a suit system that requires more dependability on other roles doing their job well, rather than the rather self sufficient system we have right now. for example, the assault suit gets so and so bonuses to damage mods, and so and so racial bonuses to racial weapons, but lacks any equipment slots, whereas the logi suits get sos and so bonuses to support modules and so and so bonuses to racial equipment, but in return they deal less damage. one suit thats built for support, the other built for killing. the assault protects the logi, while the logi keeps the assault in the fight. Lv 4 forum warrior Bringer of Bacon Knight of AMV's
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1417	Posted - 2013.12.25 03:50:00 - [58] - Quote Dust is FPS joke right now. numbers continue to drop, so there is no 1.7 that's brought life to this game. just nerds finally like you said holding nothing but a plunger.
CharCharOdell 1861	Posted - 2013.12.25 04:52:00 - [59] - Quote Something tells me we will be getting nosferatu/module overheat weapons and webifiers before these are introduced. But its not like a proto tank would be better at killing infantry than a mlt tank. Its more a tank v tank advantage. Gùñ-é-º+¼+ò+¦GÖÑ+ú+ú+¡ GÖÑ'Ðe+ü+üGùÑ Gùú -ä>-üð+++Ç++§<-¡<-¡ Gùó I like railguns.
Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4239	Posted - 2013.12.25 05:08:00 - [60] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: Sica- 2 high slots, -2 lows, soma- 2 low slots, 2 highs, gunlogi-3 highs- 2 lows madugar-3 lows, 2 highs These are values as of 1.7 before 1.7 a STD hull gave 5 highs/lows depending on tank. Why is That? ADV And PRO Tank Hulls Are Coming My Fellow Tank Drivers, We Are Still Holding The Wooden Side Of The Toilet Plunger. AV Will Have To Hold The "Buisness End Of The Stick After 1.7 Expanding tiers to vehicles would make NO sense when part of the issue with the lackluster infantry game is the existence of tiers for suits. We need LESS tiers, not to apply them to everything just because stupid people don't know how to fit tanks. And don't even argue with that. You can make a Sica that can paste an entire team and wipe the floor with Gunnlogis and Madrugars. If you can't do this, you're bad and you should feel bad. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector



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