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Posted - 2013.12.25 00:23:00 -
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proto vehicles? 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lolno, over my dead body.
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Posted - 2013.12.25 00:47:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:Quote:that's the problem now. Tankers wanting to be a one man wrecking crew vs. infantry isn't that what a heavily armed and armouredsupport is. Read tank discription. Also, Tanks don't equal hacked objectives so...
tanks equal no reddots round the objective so its nearly the same damn thing. imo tanks should fall into 3 catergory's, glass cannon, meatshield, and support. pretty self explanatory, ones high dps, low ehp, the other low dps, high ehp, and the third is low dps, moderate ehp with benefits to support modules like scanning and MCRU's.
vehicles should be limited in their fitting, every upside needs a downside, otherwise godmode will happen.
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Posted - 2013.12.25 01:02:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:I do agree with the logi tanks you mentioned but.
the high damage low ehp tank sounds like an ambush stomper, and you infantry woudnt like that. (it happens anyways lol)
no matter how low the dps is, it is still a tank and WILL have somewhat of a Large Cannon.
Oh wehn i say low ehp, i mean low ehp, as in solo'able by a swarm launcher, something which relies on its mobility and positioning to survive. of course this would rely on different hull types being introduced.
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Posted - 2013.12.25 03:09:00 -
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Dj grammer wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I got a fugly stick with nails in it to prevent this and I am not afraid to swing it.
Also on the bat is suit tericide in which there is no more basic, advanced or prototype suits, just milita and tech 1 tech 2 progression. Swing first! Oh I have plans to, we're getting meetings set up after the holidays to discuss this. I almost sure that you're joking about the tiercide. If not, all I am going to say is there will be a LOT of pissed off players in this game meaning that this game would be forever remember (if lucky) the game that could have been.
tiercide isn't a nerf, its a shift from a top down power system (AKA Proto being the be all, end all gear) to a wider more equal power system. its a change from an everything gets better system to a some things get better at the expense of other things system.
the end goal would be something similar to vehicles, where there are no direct upgrades, only specializations with their own unique downsides.
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Posted - 2013.12.25 03:29:00 -
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Dj grammer wrote:gbghg wrote:
tiercide isn't a nerf, its a shift from a top down power system (AKA Proto being the be all, end all gear) to a wider more equal power system. its a change from an everything gets better system to a some things get better at the expense of other things system.
the end goal would be something similar to vehicles, where there are no direct upgrades, only specializations with their own unique downsides.
Hope I am getting this right but something where it is only x suit in z match?
kinda, its more like what would happen if you removed proto tiers and were left with only the standard suits, you have your assault suits which would get all kinds of bonuses for that role but with appropriate penalties, same with logi's, scouts etc, as the game progresses new roles get added. tiercide aims for a spectrum of colours, rather than several shades of the same one.
okay i'm kinda going overboard with the vague imagery here. but if we say your in a match where maximum slaying is the required role then a suit appropriate for that would be best. of course some support roles would be needed to let the slayers keep slaying, so these support players put themselves at a disadvantage so they can keep their teams effective. its a move towards a suit system that requires more dependability on other roles doing their job well, rather than the rather self sufficient system we have right now.
for example, the assault suit gets so and so bonuses to damage mods, and so and so racial bonuses to racial weapons, but lacks any equipment slots, whereas the logi suits get sos and so bonuses to support modules and so and so bonuses to racial equipment, but in return they deal less damage. one suit thats built for support, the other built for killing. the assault protects the logi, while the logi keeps the assault in the fight.
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