DUST Search - Proto ScR is Awesome

Lea Silencio wrote:

Izlare Lenix wrote:

I can use the viziam and carthum bur mainly use the CRW and CRD. They are all amazing weapons. The Viziam Scrambler is absolutely a beast and is the KING of quick kills (after sniper rifles of course).

However, I have died using it more than enough times due to the weapon seizing from overheat. Once that happens you are easy pickings for 5 seconds. And of course when on very little hp I have killed myself from the feedback damage. That charged shoot is both a blessing and a curse as it causes enormous overheat issues.

It is probably the best 1 v 1 weapon, but it is quickly overwhelmed against multiple targets due to heat buildup. I run Caldari so I am not sure how much the Amarr Assault suit and the heat reduction bonus helps.

I honestly think the heat buildup is drastic enough to keep the ScR from being OP. I never use it if I know I will engaged multiple targets like in a building or on an objective. Currently it is amazing in certain situations and so so in others.

Absolutely nailed it. SCR IS the king of 1v1's but it fails when engaging 3+ enemies of equal distance. Rule of thumb is IF you encounter a good SCR user as a group, close in on him. If he is worth anything, he WILL kill at least 1, maybe 2. Engaging anything more simultaneously with make him either sieze up (or close to it) or drain his clip, forcing him to rely solely on his sidearm for survival.

Best advice for a SCR user:

1. Stay mobile.
2. Always try to isolate single targets.
3. Utilize cover.
4. Nail that charge shot. If you miss it, your gun will be too hot to attempt an 8-10 shot volley. It will sieze up.
5. Know when your gun will sieze up and use your sidearm as your finisher, if needed. Ammo count will give the clue. Get familiar with it.
6. Hip fire like a M'fer in CQC. It's your only hope. Make sure to aim high for quick kill potential.

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ThePlayerkyle13 PlayerArmy Industries 32	Posted - 2013.12.23 12:12:00 - [1] - Quote This gun in Proto Level beats all other Rifles at proto, just charging up the shot in the head & its an insta kill, & shoot 3 - 5 bullets in the body & their dead & i was gonna put Damage mods on the Gun, due to my Experiance with Advance variant, which is crappy i may say. But now since i've tried the gun it's OP as S*it. But it does Overheat very quckly which is a downside but a good balance. Join my Corp HERE
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 847	Posted - 2013.12.23 12:14:00 - [2] - Quote lol. ScR is amazing at all levels :) get yourself an Assault ak.0 and then talk to me :) works like a charm even with my BPOs. PRO tanker and proud. Lentarr Legionary.
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 1532	Posted - 2013.12.23 12:15:00 - [3] - Quote Run it was at least prof. 3 and stack three damage mods on it. It literally is able to drop several before overheating. I was running it earlier for ***** and giggles (I hate using protogear, but I wanted to make sure my taboo setup was still fully functional (which it extremely is), so there's that). Using a Duvolle is mercy compared to the Imperial. "Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara The Traitor, in the name of "freedom".
Lea Silencio 0uter.Heaven 981	Posted - 2013.12.23 12:15:00 - [4] - Quote Shhhhh! Edit the "it's OP" part! The focus is on the NEW rifles now! Sheesh! My ScR can't catch a break! PurificationGäó It's what I do. Amarr Victor
ThePlayerkyle13 PlayerArmy Industries 32	Posted - 2013.12.23 12:18:00 - [5] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: lol. ScR is amazing at all levels :) get yourself an Assault ak.0 and then talk to me :) works like a charm even with my BPOs. Im a logi guy, helping TM is my priority :) Join my Corp HERE
ThePlayerkyle13 PlayerArmy Industries 32	Posted - 2013.12.23 12:20:00 - [6] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: Shhhhh! Edit the "it's OP" part! The focus is on the NEW rifles now! Sheesh! My ScR can't catch a break! I'm pretty sure CCP already knows whats with the ScR at the moment (if they used it).. Join my Corp HERE
Lea Silencio 0uter.Heaven 981	Posted - 2013.12.23 12:21:00 - [7] - Quote <---- Proto Ak.0, Proto Viziam SCR, 3 complex damage mods with Proficiency V. If God made a weapon, it would be.... ...wait... He did. Carry on. PurificationGäó It's what I do. Amarr Victor
ThePlayerkyle13 PlayerArmy Industries 32	Posted - 2013.12.23 12:22:00 - [8] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: Run it was at least prof. 3 and stack three damage mods on it. It literally is able to drop several before overheating. I was running it earlier for ***** and giggles (I hate using protogear, but I wanted to make sure my taboo setup was still fully functional (which it extremely is), so there's that). Using a Duvolle is mercy compared to the Imperial. You should put Mods on that Duvolle AR, then it'll work as a dream... Join my Corp HERE
ThePlayerkyle13 PlayerArmy Industries 32	Posted - 2013.12.23 12:23:00 - [9] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: <---- Proto Ak.0, Proto Viziam SCR, 3 complex damage mods with Proficiency V. If God made a weapon, it would be.... ...wait... He did. Carry on. I think thats what CCP intented it to be, a Gods Weapon... Join my Corp HERE
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 1533	Posted - 2013.12.23 12:24:00 - [10] - Quote ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: You should put Mods on that Duvolle AR, then it'll work as a dream... I have before, and I assure you that the Duvolle is lesser than the Imperial. "Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara The Traitor, in the name of "freedom".

Izlare Lenix FREE AGENTS LP 51	Posted - 2013.12.23 12:25:00 - [11] - Quote I can use the viziam and carthum bur mainly use the CRW and CRD. They are all amazing weapons. The Viziam Scrambler is absolutely a beast and is the KING of quick kills (after sniper rifles of course). However, I have died using it more than enough times due to the weapon seizing from overheat. Once that happens you are easy pickings for 5 seconds. And of course when on very little hp I have killed myself from the feedback damage. That charged shoot is both a blessing and a curse as it causes enormous overheat issues. It is probably the best 1 v 1 weapon, but it is quickly overwhelmed against multiple targets due to heat buildup. I run Caldari so I am not sure how much the Amarr Assault suit and the heat reduction bonus helps. I honestly think the heat buildup is drastic enough to keep the ScR from being OP. I never use it if I know I will engaged multiple targets like in a building or on an objective. Currently it is amazing in certain situations and so so in others.
Lea Silencio 0uter.Heaven 981	Posted - 2013.12.23 12:33:00 - [12] - Quote ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: <---- Proto Ak.0, Proto Viziam SCR, 3 complex damage mods with Proficiency V. If God made a weapon, it would be.... ...wait... He did. Carry on. I think thats what CCP intented it to be, a Gods Weapon... Most players have no idea how to play to the weapon's strengths tbh, rendering those players rather obsolete. I can honestly say that I only know of 15-17 people who use it that I can TRULY call "elite". It is a high alpha damage gun, yes but it is far (VERY far) from "God-Mode" in an average players hands. PurificationGäó It's what I do. Amarr Victor
Keri Starlight 0uter.Heaven 2122	Posted - 2013.12.23 12:36:00 - [13] - Quote Mmmh, you're pretty late on this one. 100% Achura "I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
Lea Silencio 0uter.Heaven 981	Posted - 2013.12.23 12:45:00 - [14] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: I can use the viziam and carthum bur mainly use the CRW and CRD. They are all amazing weapons. The Viziam Scrambler is absolutely a beast and is the KING of quick kills (after sniper rifles of course). However, I have died using it more than enough times due to the weapon seizing from overheat. Once that happens you are easy pickings for 5 seconds. And of course when on very little hp I have killed myself from the feedback damage. That charged shoot is both a blessing and a curse as it causes enormous overheat issues. It is probably the best 1 v 1 weapon, but it is quickly overwhelmed against multiple targets due to heat buildup. I run Caldari so I am not sure how much the Amarr Assault suit and the heat reduction bonus helps. I honestly think the heat buildup is drastic enough to keep the ScR from being OP. I never use it if I know I will engaged multiple targets like in a building or on an objective. Currently it is amazing in certain situations and so so in others. Absolutely nailed it. SCR IS the king of 1v1's but it fails when engaging 3+ enemies of equal distance. Rule of thumb is IF you encounter a good SCR user as a group, close in on him. If he is worth anything, he WILL kill at least 1, maybe 2. Engaging anything more simultaneously with make him either sieze up (or close to it) or drain his clip, forcing him to rely solely on his sidearm for survival. Best advice for a SCR user: 1. Stay mobile. 2. Always try to isolate single targets. 3. Utilize cover. 4. Nail that charge shot. If you miss it, your gun will be too hot to attempt an 8-10 shot volley. It will sieze up. 5. Know when your gun will sieze up and use your sidearm as your finisher, if needed. Ammo count will give the clue. Get familiar with it. 6. Hip fire like a M'fer in CQC. It's your only hope. Make sure to aim high for quick kill potential. PurificationGäó It's what I do. Amarr Victor
Knight Soiaire BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 3941	Posted - 2013.12.23 13:31:00 - [15] - Quote The thing one hit kills my Scout suit no matter where you hit me. Its crazy! DUST is so broken, even my PS3 refuses to let me play it.
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 849	Posted - 2013.12.23 13:38:00 - [16] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: Izlare Lenix wrote: I can use the viziam and carthum bur mainly use the CRW and CRD. They are all amazing weapons. The Viziam Scrambler is absolutely a beast and is the KING of quick kills (after sniper rifles of course). However, I have died using it more than enough times due to the weapon seizing from overheat. Once that happens you are easy pickings for 5 seconds. And of course when on very little hp I have killed myself from the feedback damage. That charged shoot is both a blessing and a curse as it causes enormous overheat issues. It is probably the best 1 v 1 weapon, but it is quickly overwhelmed against multiple targets due to heat buildup. I run Caldari so I am not sure how much the Amarr Assault suit and the heat reduction bonus helps. I honestly think the heat buildup is drastic enough to keep the ScR from being OP. I never use it if I know I will engaged multiple targets like in a building or on an objective. Currently it is amazing in certain situations and so so in others. Absolutely nailed it. SCR IS the king of 1v1's but it fails when engaging 3+ enemies of equal distance. Rule of thumb is IF you encounter a good SCR user as a group, close in on him. If he is worth anything, he WILL kill at least 1, maybe 2. Engaging anything more simultaneously with make him either sieze up (or close to it) or drain his clip, forcing him to rely solely on his sidearm for survival. Best advice for a SCR user: 1. Stay mobile. 2. Always try to isolate single targets. 3. Utilize cover. 4. Nail that charge shot. If you miss it, your gun will be too hot to attempt an 8-10 shot volley. It will sieze up. 5. Know when your gun will sieze up and use your sidearm as your finisher, if needed. Ammo count will give the clue. Get familiar with it. 6. Hip fire like a M'fer in CQC. It's your only hope. Make sure to aim high for quick kill potential. Yeah, I need to work on my gungame; I'm bad at landing the charged shot. Need to finish off ak.0, too. Imperial suits are great, but I want that overheat reduction. I find myself switching to SMG all the time in group fights; gives my ScR time to cool down. Absolutely a lifesaver; ScR doesn't work nearly as well on a logi suit. PRO tanker and proud. Lentarr Legionary.
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 664	Posted - 2013.12.23 13:50:00 - [17] - Quote ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: This gun in Proto Level beats all other Rifles at proto, just charging up the shot in the head & its an insta kill, & shoot 3 - 5 bullets in the body & their dead & i was gonna put Damage mods on the Gun, due to my Experiance with Advance variant, which is crappy i may say. But now since i've tried the gun it's OP as S*it. But it does Overheat very quckly which is a downside but a good balance. All i Can say about that viziam is : phew phew phew and phew some more.
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 912	Posted - 2013.12.23 14:06:00 - [18] - Quote All ScRs are very very powerful and proto variants truly frightening. But the overheat mechanism is a great balance meaning it's not spammable and takes skill to use. Feeling the scanner is too simple and off balance? The fix:
Izlare Lenix FREE AGENTS LP 51	Posted - 2013.12.23 14:16:00 - [19] - Quote Does anyone know how much damage the charge shot actually does. I have looked for an answer but haven't found it yet. Considering it can one shot scouts and some medium frames with a body shot it must be 250-350 damage I would think.


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