DUST Search - Valve vs CCP on console shooters

John Demonsbane wrote:

Roman FourFingers wrote:

John Demonsbane wrote:

Not to be picky, well, ok, totally to be picky, but there's no such thing a as a level 4 trauma center. If there was, it would be crap b/c a level 1 trauma center is the highest level.

Second. You're the one not seeing the forest for the trees. To suggest that KBM support will single handedly save Dust is preposterous. You want to play a PC FPS? Then go ******* play one. The rest of us will continue to press on the real issues like core content and PVE.

you are apparently very naive and or young to think anything is going to happen without this game making a income,, or is your mom going to give CCP a monthly allowance ?

so instead of just blurting out and throwing up on this forum like you just had a labotomy please do tell us where they will get income from ...

Whatever you say, dude, Save the ad hominen argument, It's the last refuge of the weak. You know nothing about me, don't presume that you do. More importantly, it's also completely irrelevant.

They get the income by making the game better, not by catering to entitled PC gamers who can't bring themselves to play a console game with a console controller. I'm sure it's a hard concept to understand for the typical neck beard, but bowing to your individual preference might not actually be the most effective method. Keep complaining about your hardship though, maybe someone else will care and give you a tissue.


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Roman FourFingers 1	Posted - 2013.12.24 02:55:00 - [1] - Quote It is apparent that most people here are "To close to the tree to see the forest" What do i mean by that you ask ? Your to involved in the game to see it for what it really is.... simply read on and this should answer all your questions and arguments.. First - Input devices----The PS3 was designed and built to have a choice of using 2 types of inputs 1. Controller 2. Key board and mouse .. you the customer get to choose which one you want to use, if you choose the inferior one over the superior one then that is your choice and u have no right to complain its unfair ---- it was best said by Mr. Faliszek (Valve/Steam) himself when integrating CS to the console... Quote: "We think that if you're really good with the controller, and you can match the fidelity of movement of the mouse and keyboard, then you'll hold your own. If not, well, you'll just be matched with people who play like you," Faliszek said, adding that PS3 players can also use a mouse and keyboard if they choose. nuff said... Second -updates/fixes/buigs etc. -these games we all play are a business to generate profit PERIOD.. and depending on what website you use for research developing/advertising/launching/maintaining/updating etc. a game like this cost any where from 10 mil to 80 million or more. the game needs to generate and maintain a profit or it DIES.. Folks this game is in a Level 4 Trauma unit in the ICU wing on life support* heres some simple math,..this game has give or take 4000 players about 10% of which do the micro transactions (thats what generates profit for the game) remember this game was free so the only profit it get is from that.. lets be generous here and say 20% are doing them and they are spending probably 10-15 bucks average per month each lets again be generous and say they are spending 20 bucks average each per month. 4000 x 20% = 800 x 20 per = 16000 per month if the game cost 30mil to develop and maintain it will take 1,875 months just to break even, and thats if those players never stop spending each of those 1,875 months.... (Hell most top game developers monthly salary is more than 16,000 per man) so by now im sure you can hear (paddles rubbing together) "CLEAR --CHACHUNK "......."WAIT STILL NO PULSE" HIT HIM AGAIN (paddles rubbing together) "CLEAR--CHACHUNK" ...Docter "ok we have a pulse faint but its still alive"... So basically your updates and improvements that you cant figure out why SONY and CCP arnt on top of and "why arnt they fixing it?" and "where is all this stuff we were promised" because this game is a financial disaster to them its hemorrhaging money they have reduced the staff to bare bones and removed any high paid personal by relocating them to other projects or they have been released ... I wouldn't be surprised if this game is been put in the hands of interns at this point.. as they (CCP and SONY) hold meetings trying to find a exit strategy, cut their losses and abandon this abortion,. that is business they are not non-profit organizations ... They need a fast big influx of gamers cash (Blood transfusion of cash) or this game you love will be gone and both CCP and SONY will have egg on their face on this one.. How do they do that you ask?.. They will have to put their pride and ego in their pockets and take this game to the players that spend cash to play games --the PC Gamers-- this game needs a PC platform to bring in the crew that has no problem investing hundreds and sometimes thousand on their characters through either PLEX and/or Micro transactions. and they stick with their character for years. Becouse lets face facts 99% of console gamers are flavor of the month players they play the newest game like battlefield or Call of Duty etc. for 3 to 6 months and then move to the next newest and greatest only to go back and play a old game every now and again ..console gamers that play this game are clearly not FOTM gamers but just not enough of you to keep this game alive and injected with a steady stream of cash. Look at the number of PC gamers currently subscribed to MMO's 20 millionish, if they could only attract lets a ridiculously low number of them let's say 1/4 of 1 percent .... thats 50,000 players the game is alive making big profits and will get a huge development team again... Gentlemen you will then be playing the baddest ass FPS ever... In closing basically what has happened here is CCP and SONY have made a statement to PC gamers "hey we don't want you people playing this game" by not making a PC platform and going one step further by sabotaging the key board and mouse to add a second layer to keep out PC gamers and now they are paying the price for that. So if you really love this game as console player you should join ranks with the PC/ Mouse keyboard gamers to push them to allow it to happen... it's only way this game will live.
Roman FourFingers 1	Posted - 2013.12.24 03:17:00 - [2] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Not to be picky, well, ok, totally to be picky, but there's no such thing a as a level 4 trauma center. If there was, it would be crap b/c a level 1 trauma center is the highest level. Second. You're the one not seeing the forest for the trees. To suggest that KBM support will single handedly save Dust is preposterous. You want to play a PC FPS? Then go ******* play one. The rest of us will continue to press on the real issues like core content and PVE. you are apparently very naive and or young to think anything is going to happen without this game making a income,, or is your mom going to give CCP a monthly allowance ? so instead of just blurting out and throwing up on this forum like you just had a labotomy please do tell us where they will get income from ...
Roman FourFingers 5	Posted - 2013.12.24 03:55:00 - [3] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Roman FourFingers wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: Not to be picky, well, ok, totally to be picky, but there's no such thing a as a level 4 trauma center. If there was, it would be crap b/c a level 1 trauma center is the highest level. Second. You're the one not seeing the forest for the trees. To suggest that KBM support will single handedly save Dust is preposterous. You want to play a PC FPS? Then go ******* play one. The rest of us will continue to press on the real issues like core content and PVE. you are apparently very naive and or young to think anything is going to happen without this game making a income,, or is your mom going to give CCP a monthly allowance ? so instead of just blurting out and throwing up on this forum like you just had a labotomy please do tell us where they will get income from ... Whatever you say, dude, Save the ad hominen argument, It's the last refuge of the weak. You know nothing about me, don't presume that you do. More importantly, it's also completely irrelevant. They get the income by making the game better, not by catering to entitled PC gamers who can't bring themselves to play a console game with a console controller. I'm sure it's a hard concept to understand for the typical neck beard, but bowing to your individual preference might not actually be the most effective method. Keep complaining about your hardship though, maybe someone else will care and give you a tissue. people like you are the reason this game is dead and gone ...