DUST Search - Valve vs CCP on console shooters

Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

bolsh lee wrote:

Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

Also counter strike? :P horrible shooter. Maps are too small, quickest reflexes nullifies any fun, the gun you picked almost doesn't matter and people quit playing it right because the game rules are dumb and people do not have the tools to play beyond the game intended in a way that is deemed 'smart' but instead viewed as cheatastic. Graphics and Sound are also not the best either but it gets passing at least. I rather play Blacklight or RB6

For you to say that just goes to show how disconnected you are from competitive shooters and I guess you're really not a numbers guy ? Why don't you tell this to the 75 THOUSAND players and 1.5m unique players who login.. All your points are invalid even when comparing a dying MMO to our dismal 4k community if anything its laughable that you can compare a drop in millions to Dusts concurrent numbers...

Tell me why I should continue play counter strike?

1. I hate how majority of the game is waiting between rounds or waiting for the round to end.
2. The game caters to twitch shooters. This is a false advertisement from the tactical shooter it falsely labels itself as.
3. Tactical decisions are severely punished, usually with death, quickly followed by round loss.
4. Maps are once again too small, too predictable, and too favored even with a handicap on the favored team.
5. The game feels far far far cheaper in production quality overall.
6. There are far too many wrong decisions made in the pre-match equipment selection.
7. Those wrong decisions are neeray ever right.
8. That one guy that gets put into matchmaking with you and ruins the entire lobby causing the entire lobby to quit within two matches
9. The game offers zero means of getting gud outside of wrist weight training, simply put if you have arthritis might as well quit playing.
10. I certainly don't feel the culture, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovsVU6mktOw seriously ruined most of CS' image for me.
11. Matchmaking needs a serious fix, losing 40 rounds in a row is rather ridiculous. I mean I know Caldari FW doesn't have any matchmaking either but at least they win once every 5 or 6 fights.
12. Too Generic
13. Feels like a bargain bin game
14. People your team quit if you have yellow or limegreen bars.
15. Has never felt original
16. I blame the origin of the COD Kiddie syndrome on this game.
17. Winning means absolutely nothing and has nearly the same emotional level as losing.

Disconnect? More about not wanting to connect.

Also by your logic I shouldn't have quit world of warcraft for FFXIV ARR.

Also Valve has made a series of shooters that I actually really hate.
I hate Half Life
I hate CS
I hate Left4Dead
I hate TF
I hate TF2 (the game not the environment it's created)

There is something subconsciously wrong with all of them that doesn't vibe with me. I mean I have gone and endured terrible shooters from other game companies but valve just has something that just geniunely pisses me off from playing thier games.


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Ansiiis The Trustworthy Ahrendee Mercenaries 589	Posted - 2013.12.23 17:24:00 - [1] - Quote TcuBe3 wrote: Vrain Matari wrote: All i can say at this point is that the new EP stressed FPS fundamentals and 1.8 is the infantry patch. Furthermore CCP has stated explicitly that our current point in DUST's development is focused on improving CORE systems. The only reference i can find where CCP explicitly addresses aiming for kb/m or DS3 is from CCP Remnant in the 'Advancing the Core' presentation, and there smooth aiming is referenced in the context of aim assist. Does CCP really think that their unassisted DS3 aiming and their kb/m aiming is good enough? You can polish a turd as much as you want but in the end it's still a Turd... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiJ9fy1qSFI Sworn Shield of Cat Merc.
Ansiiis The Trustworthy Ahrendee Mercenaries 591	Posted - 2013.12.23 19:22:00 - [2] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: bolsh lee wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Also counter strike? :P horrible shooter. Maps are too small, quickest reflexes nullifies any fun, the gun you picked almost doesn't matter and people quit playing it right because the game rules are dumb and people do not have the tools to play beyond the game intended in a way that is deemed 'smart' but instead viewed as cheatastic. Graphics and Sound are also not the best either but it gets passing at least. I rather play Blacklight or RB6 For you to say that just goes to show how disconnected you are from competitive shooters and I guess you're really not a numbers guy ? Why don't you tell this to the 75 THOUSAND players and 1.5m unique players who login.. All your points are invalid even when comparing a dying MMO to our dismal 4k community if anything its laughable that you can compare a drop in millions to Dusts concurrent numbers... Tell me why I should continue play counter strike? 1. I hate how majority of the game is waiting between rounds or waiting for the round to end. 2. The game caters to twitch shooters. This is a false advertisement from the tactical shooter it falsely labels itself as. 3. Tactical decisions are severely punished, usually with death, quickly followed by round loss. 4. Maps are once again too small, too predictable, and too favored even with a handicap on the favored team. 5. The game feels far far far cheaper in production quality overall. 6. There are far too many wrong decisions made in the pre-match equipment selection. 7. Those wrong decisions are neeray ever right. 8. That one guy that gets put into matchmaking with you and ruins the entire lobby causing the entire lobby to quit within two matches 9. The game offers zero means of getting gud outside of wrist weight training, simply put if you have arthritis might as well quit playing. 10. I certainly don't feel the culture, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovsVU6mktOw seriously ruined most of CS' image for me. 11. Matchmaking needs a serious fix, losing 40 rounds in a row is rather ridiculous. I mean I know Caldari FW doesn't have any matchmaking either but at least they win once every 5 or 6 fights. 12. Too Generic 13. Feels like a bargain bin game 14. People your team quit if you have yellow or limegreen bars. 15. Has never felt original 16. I blame the origin of the COD Kiddie syndrome on this game. 17. Winning means absolutely nothing and has nearly the same emotional level as losing. Disconnect? More about not wanting to connect. Also by your logic I shouldn't have quit world of warcraft for FFXIV ARR. Also Valve has made a series of shooters that I actually really hate. I hate Half Life I hate CS I hate Left4Dead I hate TF I hate TF2 (the game not the environment it's created) There is something subconsciously wrong with all of them that doesn't vibe with me. I mean I have gone and endured terrible shooters from other game companies but valve just has something that just geniunely pisses me off from playing thier games. I actually approved some of your points until I started reading further. I hate, I hate, I,I,I. You do realize that CS is regarded as a great shooter just because it's simplicity - it's meant to be skill based and it has far more tactics than Dust. Sworn Shield of Cat Merc.
Ansiiis The Trustworthy Ahrendee Mercenaries 591	Posted - 2013.12.23 19:23:00 - [3] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: bolsh lee wrote: Yet again, its not about you or me or any one person.. Its about our 4k player base compared to a 75k player base if 4k players is what CCP is proud of and coined as their "cult player base" that's pretty pathetic even for a company that "doesn't do shooters" Tell me why CCP shouldn't market Dust to the PC communityby improving kb/m ? You continue to prove my data is correct the only argument you have is your own personal experience ? Sorry ironwolf as a CPM you should probably try to think outside the box your "new content appealing to veterans" is limited and doesn't garnish any returns... 7 billion people on earth and only 75k play Counterstrike? Your points are becoming quite silly and illogical. Sworn Shield of Cat Merc.