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![lok rark lok rark](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_minmatar_128.jpg)
lok rark
StealthSquad
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Posted - 2013.12.22 01:39:00 -
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WTF CCP! ![Shocked](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_shocked.png) ![Evil](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_evil.png) ![Question](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_questionmark.png) ![Attention](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_attention.png)
I feel like im looking a gift horse in the mouth. After months of me QQ about the Heavy CCP finally did a stealth buff. In their usual style overkill to the extreme.
I just wanted it to be IDK normall/ fair/ OK.
But they gave it some auto targeting lock on device like the assault rifle and more power and it just cuts people faces right off and sprays everything. It was mayhem before but its 3x more powerful and I CANT MISS.
I cut through whole squads last night- protos also... I killed nearly 30 in afew matches. Only lost afew suits except for the odd games when I got stomped.
Now they will have to nerf it again or maybe its working as intended ![Ugh](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_ugh.png)
Thoughts? |
![LT SHANKS LT SHANKS](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_amarr_128.jpg)
LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
807
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Posted - 2013.12.22 01:42:00 -
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Thoughts?
I want you to be quiet and leave. |
![Kane Fyea Kane Fyea](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_amarr_128.jpg)
Kane Fyea
Scions of Athra
2420
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Posted - 2013.12.22 01:45:00 -
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CCP Frame wrote:Dear players,
DUST 514 is scheduled to go offline for an extended period of time starting from 11:00 UTC. Server is expected to come back up at approximately 11:40 UTC. We will be deploying the following changes:
* Reduced fuel injector module bonus by 5% and lowered HAV top speed slightly. * Improved HMG effectiveness at short/medium range. * Added hybrid tag to Rail Rifle so that the correct role bonuses apply. * Multiple improvements to the matchmaking system. * Orbital Strike Exploit: Fixed edge case where players were able to request 2 orbitals for the price of one. * Fixed faction selection issue. * Fixed aggressive friendly fire damage tracking. * Battleserver stability fixes.
Thank you for your patience and understanding.
Not a stealth buff. |
![Viktor Hadah Jr Viktor Hadah Jr](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_amarr_128.jpg)
Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
1559
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Posted - 2013.12.22 01:48:00 -
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I have a adv HMG and heavy frame i use some times but i mainly run proto amarr ass and from my point of view i think HMG's are where they should be i die to heavies in close quarters a lot more now but i think that is what is suppose to happen.
Amarr!
Try EVE Online
Selling Templar BPO
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lok rark
StealthSquad
18
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Posted - 2013.12.22 01:48:00 -
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your evil |
![Jason Pearson Jason Pearson](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
Jason Pearson
3565
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Posted - 2013.12.22 01:50:00 -
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Wot?
King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire.
Buffing or Debuffing Vehicles or AV will never fix anything.
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![Cosgar Cosgar](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_minmatar_128.jpg)
Cosgar
ParagonX
8952
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Posted - 2013.12.22 01:53:00 -
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Adapt or die, adapt... or... die![Twisted](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png)
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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![Melchiah ARANeAE Melchiah ARANeAE](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
Melchiah ARANeAE
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
401
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Posted - 2013.12.22 01:55:00 -
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They dominate at 10m to 20m, but isn't accurate enough past that range to make it OP. It's a niche weapon.
We want cake and tea.
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![Heals Vaginas Heals Vaginas](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_caldari_128.jpg)
Heals Vaginas
Commando Perkone Caldari State
34
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Posted - 2013.12.22 01:55:00 -
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At the moment I am happy with them, they hurt, they can **** you up, they can be beaten.
They have gone from being almost humorous to deadly, and one of the last things you want to walk around corner and bump into. That isn't OP, thats a heavily armored mo fo with a gatling gun. |
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KIRSTY j
The Walking Targets
30
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Posted - 2013.12.22 01:57:00 -
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a heavy weapon should be more powerful than a light. |
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lok rark
StealthSquad
18
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Posted - 2013.12.22 01:59:00 -
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I totally agree.
My problem is with the auto targeting being to efficient.
I dont need Scotty to AIM for me... he f@cks up enough. |
![Himiko Kuronaga Himiko Kuronaga](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_gallente_128.jpg)
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
2541
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Posted - 2013.12.22 02:00:00 -
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lok rark wrote:WTF CCP! ![Shocked](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_shocked.png) ![Evil](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_evil.png) ![Question](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_questionmark.png) ![Attention](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_attention.png) I feel like im looking a gift horse in the mouth. After months of me QQ about the Heavy CCP finally did a stealth buff. In their usual style overkill to the extreme. I just wanted it to be IDK normall/ fair/ OK. But they gave it some auto targeting lock on device like the assault rifle and more power and it just cuts people faces right off and sprays everything. It was mayhem before but its 3x more powerful and I CANT MISS. I cut through whole squads last night- protos also... I killed nearly 30 in afew matches. Only lost afew suits except for the odd games when I got stomped. Now they will have to nerf it again ![Sad](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_sad.png) or maybe its working as intended ![Ugh](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_ugh.png) Thoughts?
Get out. |
![Patrick57 Patrick57](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_amarr_128.jpg)
Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
2264
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Posted - 2013.12.22 02:02:00 -
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lok rark wrote:WTF CCP! ![Shocked](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_shocked.png) ![Evil](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_evil.png) ![Question](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_questionmark.png) ![Attention](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_attention.png) I feel like im looking a gift horse in the mouth. After months of me QQ about the Heavy CCP finally did a stealth buff. In their usual style overkill to the extreme. I just wanted it to be IDK normall/ fair/ OK. But they gave it some auto targeting lock on device like the assault rifle and more power and it just cuts people faces right off and sprays everything. It was mayhem before but its 3x more powerful and I CANT MISS. I cut through whole squads last night- protos also... I killed nearly 30 in afew matches. Only lost afew suits except for the odd games when I got stomped. Now they will have to nerf it again ![Sad](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_sad.png) or maybe its working as intended ![Ugh](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_ugh.png) Thoughts? Try facing a Heavy at 20+ meters, you'll have success unless they're using a Freedom Assault.
When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE! nú+
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![Shijima Kuraimaru Shijima Kuraimaru](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_amarr_128.jpg)
Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens League of Infamy
441
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Posted - 2013.12.22 02:03:00 -
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lok rark wrote:WTF CCP! ![Shocked](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_shocked.png) ![Evil](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_evil.png) ![Question](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_questionmark.png) ![Attention](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_attention.png) I feel like im looking a gift horse in the mouth. After months of me QQ about the Heavy CCP finally did a stealth buff. In their usual style overkill to the extreme. I just wanted it to be IDK normall/ fair/ OK. But they gave it some auto targeting lock on device like the assault rifle and more power and it just cuts people faces right off and sprays everything. It was mayhem before but its 3x more powerful and I CANT MISS. I cut through whole squads last night- protos also... I killed nearly 30 in afew matches. Only lost afew suits except for the odd games when I got stomped. Now they will have to nerf it again ![Sad](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_sad.png) or maybe its working as intended ![Ugh](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_ugh.png) Thoughts?
If it bugs you so much, turn off your AA. It's just that simple.
I still can't find tanks on the market. All I see are those HAVs.
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Zene Ren
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
22
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Posted - 2013.12.22 02:03:00 -
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got four letters for you mate: HTFU !!! |
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Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
738
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Posted - 2013.12.22 02:13:00 -
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The heavy and the HMG are fine. Up close they should rip people apart...and they finally do.
Finally when people see heavies they run or back off, not charge in for an easy kill.
Faction Channels for FW Staging
PIE Ground Control | Caldari Hierarchy | Turalyon | Chosen Matari
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calvin b
SCAVENGER'S DAUGHTER
1286
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Posted - 2013.12.22 02:33:00 -
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Working as intended and why would you want to go back to pre-buff. We needed this. I just started to use my heavy again, and if they get a nerf because someone could not appreciate the buff, I swear to god I will hunt you down to the ends of the earth, and to get my point across even more there will be bounties on the person or persons who F***** us over![Cool](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png)
The evil hidden in the name
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![Master Jaraiya Master Jaraiya](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_minmatar_128.jpg)
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
1407
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Posted - 2013.12.22 03:14:00 -
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I started playing HMG Heavy back in Chromosome and played HMG Heavy through the HMG Heavy dark ages (1.0 through 1.6). I took a small break to play logi for a bit, but went back to Heavy. I used an AR for a while after playing a Logi. I'm not proud of it, but the HMG was so broken, I finally decided my K/D R had suffered enough.
Finally the HMG is fixed and is working perfectly! I waited sooooo long to have the HMG back I swear if the crybaby AR scrubs **** this up for me I'll be done with DUST 514.
HMG Heavy for life, after life, after life, ad infinitum!
"The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies."
- The Toad Sage
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![Darth-Carbonite GIO Darth-Carbonite GIO](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_caldari_128.jpg)
Darth-Carbonite GIO
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
311
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Posted - 2013.12.22 03:35:00 -
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As a Logi-Bro, I love my new badass heavy sidekicks ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png)
Preeminent Scrambler Rifle User & Dropship Enthusiast
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![John Demonsbane John Demonsbane](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_amarr_128.jpg)
John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
788
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Posted - 2013.12.22 03:37:00 -
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with a massive slow armored suit carrying a huge minigun tearing even light vehicles into shreds at close range. Logic alone should dictate that.
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
Amarr victor!
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Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
1327
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Posted - 2013.12.22 03:45:00 -
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Player who got buffed saying he thinks it's OP.
Players on the business end of the buffed gun come out to defend it and say it's okay and balanced.
I'm not sure I've seen this on these forums before. ![Shocked](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_shocked.png)
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![Himiko Kuronaga Himiko Kuronaga](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_gallente_128.jpg)
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
2542
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Posted - 2013.12.22 03:53:00 -
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The police respect it.
So should you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RbL4PwTDsQ |
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J4yne C0bb
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
128
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Posted - 2013.12.22 03:56:00 -
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No. Just....no.
I'm pwning people in CQC, and getting pwned from a distance, if I'm dumb enough to get caught out in the open. The HMG works exactly as intended now. Don't frak with it.
Min Logi | aka Punch R0ckgroin - fatsuit | My Theme Music
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![Orion Vahid Orion Vahid](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
Orion Vahid
DUST University Ivy League
235
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Posted - 2013.12.22 03:58:00 -
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lok rark wrote:WTF CCP! ![Shocked](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_shocked.png) ![Evil](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_evil.png) ![Question](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_questionmark.png) ![Attention](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_attention.png) I feel like im looking a gift horse in the mouth. After months of me QQ about the Heavy CCP finally did a stealth buff. In their usual style overkill to the extreme. I just wanted it to be IDK normall/ fair/ OK. But they gave it some auto targeting lock on device like the assault rifle and more power and it just cuts people faces right off and sprays everything. It was mayhem before but its 3x more powerful and I CANT MISS. I cut through whole squads last night- protos also... I killed nearly 30 in afew matches. Only lost afew suits except for the odd games when I got stomped. Now they will have to nerf it again ![Sad](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_sad.png) or maybe its working as intended ![Ugh](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_ugh.png) Thoughts? Nice try, AR user. My thoughts? HTFU and stop whining. HMG is finally working as intended. |
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CLONE117
planetary retaliation organisation
534
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Posted - 2013.12.22 03:59:00 -
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thats funny.... because combat rifles and rail rifles seem to own my hmg all over the place
i can handle the occasional dummy that runs up to me only to die to a face full of bullets but thats about it.. |
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noobsniper the 2nd
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
103
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Posted - 2013.12.22 05:06:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:thats funny.... because combat rifles and rail rifles seem to own my hmg all over the place
i can handle the occasional dummy that runs up to me only to die to a face full of bullets but thats about it.. Well u sir are a bad heavy I own the ar scrubs in CQC sometimes five at a time btw I tanked a adv forge shot earlier that was fun
just call me scumbag noob
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
2404
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Posted - 2013.12.22 05:29:00 -
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Working As Intended.
Unless your a scout, you shouldn't try to engage the heavy in CQC or head-on.
In long range combat, HMGs are literal joke weapons
If you believe that HMGs are OP then you need to:
1. Grab a Rail Rifle.
2. Stay within 25-40m of the heavy.
3. Get Good.
We finally deployed in the MinFW Match!
\o/
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Joel II X
Lo-Tech Solutions Ltd
347
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Posted - 2013.12.22 05:35:00 -
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It's a heavy freaking machine gun. What you just said is actually SUPPOSED to happen. I'm still going to stalk you and geta few shotgun shells on your big fat head with my light frame. |
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Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core
386
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Posted - 2013.12.22 06:16:00 -
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GLORIOUS dual complex damage mod boundless HMG! 1000 DPS to the face!
A strange game.
The only winning move is
not to play.
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Leovarian L Lavitz
NECROM0NGERS Covert Intervention
880
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Posted - 2013.12.22 06:53:00 -
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The term for this is 'Mighty Glacier' http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MightyGlacier
Omni-Soldier
Few are my equal in one of these specialties, and there are none who can compare in all of them.
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Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
810
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Posted - 2013.12.22 12:21:00 -
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Heals Vaginas wrote:At the moment I am happy with them, they hurt, they can **** you up, they can be beaten.
They have gone from being almost humorous to deadly, and one of the last things you want to walk around corner and bump into. That isn't OP, thats a heavily armored mo fo with a gatling gun.
yes and us heavy mo fo's will rip anyone in close range a new ******* ![Cool](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png) ![Twisted](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png)
YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED!!!
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Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
810
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Posted - 2013.12.22 12:22:00 -
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Disturbingly Bored wrote:Player who got buffed saying he thinks it's OP. Players on the business end of the buffed gun come out to defend it and say it's okay and balanced. I'm not sure I've seen this on these forums before. ![Shocked](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_shocked.png)
lol our victims are defending us heavies. its a good day to be a heavy ![Cool](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png)
YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED!!!
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lordjanuz
Norwegian Dust514 Corporation Top Men.
245
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Posted - 2013.12.22 12:24:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:Thoughts?
I want you to be quiet and leave.
+1 |
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CrotchGrab 360
676
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Posted - 2013.12.22 12:32:00 -
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People normally say "you need to adapt"
they are STUPID when they say that in regards to the tank spam.
But here's the thing, this is an occasion where I agree with them because the heavy used to be great, people were shafted for MONTHS.
Now it's finally back in business.
You've had your toys, now they're got theirs.
ADAPT |
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Synther Bix
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
144
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Posted - 2013.12.22 12:47:00 -
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I had some great fun on my heavy yesterday in domination.
Was some of the most intense and mental matches i ever played, there be clones coming at me from every direction. Couldn't be done with out my favorite logi bro though!
Top man in charge of Dust2Dust ~--~ Amarr standings - 4
one must imagine sisyphus happy
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NOAMIzzzzz
BIG BAD W0LVES
78
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Posted - 2013.12.22 12:51:00 -
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Omg shut the fack ap. |
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DJINN Nukem
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.12.22 14:42:00 -
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i love how most Ar users are happy with this buff.
because it is working as intended,
if you come near my HMG you will die, if you are stupid enough to stand still I will rip you in half, easy enough,
BUT, if your smart and stay back you will will kill me in no time trying to get close to you.
HMG OWNS THE CITY NOW, stay outside and do whatever ya want
this thread is AWSOME,
Trample The Weak Hurdle the Dead
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Angeal Wolfbane
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
7
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Posted - 2013.12.24 02:29:00 -
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For those of you that are whining about the HMG. Cry me a river. It's not the heavies fault that you guys come charging at us with your little assault rifle that is meant from a distance. Stop all of your whining and grow up. And two, your assault do more damage, so don't whine about our damage when your little assault rifles tear us heavies apart! |
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StaySqueezy
ZilchmobZ Industries
5
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Posted - 2013.12.24 02:47:00 -
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Don't think the heavy's are OP. If your around a lot of them just spawn one yourself. They are pretty much useless at a distance so just stock up on a rail or combat rifle and pick 'em off.
"How do you keep a dog from biting you on monday?".........."You kill it on sunday."
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KING CHECKMATE
Scions of Athra
3476
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Posted - 2013.12.24 02:48:00 -
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lok rark wrote:WTF CCP! ![Shocked](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_shocked.png) ![Evil](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_evil.png) ![Question](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_questionmark.png) ![Attention](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_attention.png) I feel like im looking a gift horse in the mouth. After months of me QQ about the Heavy CCP finally did a stealth buff. In their usual style overkill to the extreme. I just wanted it to be IDK normall/ fair/ OK. But they gave it some auto targeting lock on device like the assault rifle and more power and it just cuts people faces right off and sprays everything. It was mayhem before but its 3x more powerful and I CANT MISS. I cut through whole squads last night- protos also... I killed nearly 30 in afew matches. Only lost afew suits except for the odd games when I got stomped. Now they will have to nerf it again ![Sad](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_sad.png) or maybe its working as intended ![Ugh](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_ugh.png) Thoughts?
Dudes heavies are ok.
I'll take down any heavy thats ALONE with my BPO SCR rifle and Toxin SMG.
Chill man.
AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446
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XxGhazbaranxX
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
855
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Posted - 2013.12.24 03:27:00 -
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lok rark wrote:I totally agree.
My problem is with the auto targeting being to efficient.
I dont need Scotty to AIM for me... he f@cks up enough.
AA is why you feel it's op. Before the hotfix the HMG had an accuracy rating of 61. When firing it, it felt like using a laser rifle in cqc since the center dot had to be on target 100% of the time to apply the dps ccp gave it on paper. By reducing accuracy down to 38.99 ccp effectively made it so anything in the circle will receive massive amounts of damage at the cost of a reduced optimal of 28 meters post hotfix instead of the 31 pre hotfix.
At cqc the hmg should be king as intended by ccp but if you feel you have an unfair advantage, you can always turn off aa. Balancing a weapon based on it performance with aa turned on is wrong and should never be done.
Plasma Cannon Advocate
For every niche there is a Rifle
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Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
1336
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Posted - 2013.12.24 03:35:00 -
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XxGhazbaranxX wrote:By reducing accuracy down to 38.99 ccp effectively made it so anything in the circle will receive massive amounts of damage at the cost of a reduced optimal of 28 meters post hotfix instead of the 31 pre hotfix.
Any more tasty info you gleaned from testing, Ghaz? I've been trying to keep an eye out for an in-depth analysis of the HMG changes from ya. ![Smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile.png)
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Horizen Kenpachi
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
48
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Posted - 2013.12.24 03:36:00 -
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lok rark wrote:Quote:Thoughts?
I want you to be quiet and leave. ![Twisted](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png) your evil But so right
Hit me with your nerf bat.
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Horizen Kenpachi
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
48
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Posted - 2013.12.24 03:40:00 -
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Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote:As a Logi-Bro, I love my new badass heavy sidekicks ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png) Hell yeah
Hit me with your nerf bat.
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BattleCry1791
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
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Posted - 2013.12.24 07:12:00 -
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Seriously OP?
SERIOUSLY?
As a dedicated Heavy from the beta that QUIT the Heavy on my main and now only play as a Heavy on a 6 mil SP alt lemme explain something to you.
WORKING AS INTENDED
In CQC the Heavy is supposed to own everything. Including those pesky scout/shotgun combos. In CQC it's supposed to to be the apex predator.
Since you've obviously never played as a Heavy (evidenced by your whining and crying about the HMG being OP), let me fill you in on a few things.
1) 90% of the maps on this game favor the AR/RR. 2) AV grenades eat LAVs 3) Thale users love seeing heavies on Manus Peak or any of the other wide open maps. 4) Heavies tend to be out of place in Dom unless the letter is in a building. 5) Heavies never escape an orbital 6) Unless you have proto class forges today's tanks can out run your reload
Prior to the WELL PUBLICIZED changes to the Heavy, the Heavy was a dead class. It had one gun and that gun, the HMG sucked. Now it actually works. Should an Advanced Heavy be able to take down Proto gear in CQC? Damn straight.
If you choose to walk into the Heavies prime kill zone wearing the equivalent of a bathrobe and bunny slippers, that's not the Heavy's fault. That's your fault for walking in there. Problem is that after you get a few kills here and there as a Heavy in CQC, guys either quit coming or they grenade spam you and rush you en mass, negating your natural advantage.
Quit whining. You don't have to "HTFU". You just need to understand that the Heavy sucks on most parts of these maps and their AV can't keep up with swarm launchers. But in that small area, that 0-20m...it's where they are supposed to dominate. And finally, they do. |
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m twiggz
Pradox One Proficiency V.
178
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Posted - 2013.12.24 07:18:00 -
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Until 1.7 I had never ran away from a heavy. Now I find myself doing it all the time to get in a better position. I really enjoy that they're finally what they should have always been. Something CCP finally balanced correctly. Now give them other suits for me to kill. ![Twisted](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png) |
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
1427
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Posted - 2013.12.24 08:17:00 -
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the whining has come full-circle.
We have come back to complaints about heavies with HMGs being OP after a year.
I am eagerly awaiting people to explain why heavies actually dominating in a point-blank firefight is unfair. |
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Lonewolf Heavy
ROGUE SPADES
4
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Posted - 2013.12.24 08:33:00 -
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lok rark wrote:WTF CCP! ![Shocked](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_shocked.png) ![Evil](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_evil.png) ![Question](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_questionmark.png) ![Attention](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_attention.png) I feel like im looking a gift horse in the mouth. After months of me QQ about the Heavy CCP finally did a stealth buff. In their usual style overkill to the extreme. I just wanted it to be IDK normall/ fair/ OK. But they gave it some auto targeting lock on device like the assault rifle and more power and it just cuts people faces right off and sprays everything. It was mayhem before but its 3x more powerful and I CANT MISS. I cut through whole squads last night- protos also... I killed nearly 30 in afew matches. Only lost afew suits except for the odd games when I got stomped. Now they will have to nerf it again ![Sad](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_sad.png) or maybe its working as intended ![Ugh](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_ugh.png) Thoughts?
Just quit playing dust. They are supposed to be a pain in the ass in CQC, Aim Assist isn't really doing much for us either. What is actually making the difference is that they fixed our aim on HMGs. because previously even though the aim shows that we have this large area we are hitting it was in fact only hitting around the center, now it is actually hitting the entire marked area.
Also getting 30 kills over a few matches, pretty much says you don't know how to use your heavy. I can get that in 2 matches at most in a militia heavy with a basic HMG.
Blueberries are delicious and an essential part of my diet ;)
Commando/Heavy
Willing to PC for anyone for a low price
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lee corwood
Knights Of Ender Public Disorder.
75
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Posted - 2013.12.24 08:34:00 -
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My favorite moment is when there is heavy on heavy action, and the other heavy is too late to see I have mine on a leash. Poor heavy. All alone.
Minmatar Logisis | Heavy lover. Come get some badass Band-Aids from this chick
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lok rark
StealthSquad
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Posted - 2013.12.24 08:40:00 -
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XxGhazbaranxX you are Legend
The AI is whats OP. Do assault get that insane AI? HMG is only good CQC.... but noone can really tell, how good, untill tank 514 is over. Then...well jury is out. ![Question](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_questionmark.png) ![Idea](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_idea.png)
BattleCry1791 IDK what to say... I tried to read it but i found it hard to get past 6mil.
Do you know what a Gastun's mini gun is? Umm Yeah... I run that. MH-82 is usually enough but sometimes MO-40.
Im 12 mil sp Day 1 heavy. I know my kdr before my Heavy was nerfed and my kdr now.
Most people dont even read the posts just the guy above them![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png)
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Omareth Nasadra
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.24 08:53:00 -
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i'm an assault and think the heavys are just perfect now, these thing should be feared and you should gang up to take one down in cqc, i was sick of melting them like buttter with my smg, they should be feared ffs, if you end up in their optimal range they deserve to waste you, wanna kill them, use range, or flank them, backstab them, but they should wreck you if you face them in a frontal assault, working as intended, now if only they could fix scout, i'm skilling into minja and wish i could be feared as the sneaky bastard i'd like to be ![Pirate](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_pirate.png)
Minmatar, In rust we trust!!!
Omareth Nasadra/Erynyes
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Lonewolf Heavy
ROGUE SPADES
5
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Posted - 2013.12.24 09:04:00 -
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lok rark wrote:XxGhazbaranxX you are Legend The AI is whats OP. Do assault get that insane AI? HMG is only good CQC.... but noone can really tell, how good, untill tank 514 is over. Then...well jury is out. ![Question](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_questionmark.png) ![Idea](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_idea.png) BattleCry1791 IDK what to say... I tried to read it but i found it hard to get past 6mil. Do you know what a Gastun's mini gun is? Umm Yeah... I run that. MH-82 is usually enough but sometimes MO-40. Im 12 mil sp Day 1 heavy. I know my kdr before my Heavy was nerfed and my kdr now. Most people dont even read the posts just the guy above them ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) Lonewolf Heavy I got 30/2 IN ONE MATCH!
I read your post my friend ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png)
I respect that, go 42 and 5 in militia (I refuse to use anything above standard in Pubs) I want to squad with you sometime. You sound fun.
Blueberries are delicious and an essential part of my diet ;)
Commando/Heavy
Willing to PC for anyone for a low price
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BattleCry1791
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
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Posted - 2013.12.24 15:59:00 -
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lok rark wrote: BattleCry1791 IDK what to say... I tried to read it but i found it hard to get past 6mil.
Interesting, because that part was after where I said: As a dedicated Heavy from the beta that QUIT the Heavy on my main I logged over 15 million SP as a Heavy and played the role in Beta. I really don't play on that account anymore so the fact that it's over 20mil now is due just to passive bonus. It was the one account that I made sure I maxed every week for months and bout boosters for. The 5mil account this is now my heavy is my 5th account that until recently was just about ALL passively earned.
lok rark wrote: Do you know what a Gastun's mini gun is? Umm Yeah... I run that. MH-82 is usually enough but sometimes MO-40.
You're using an officer weapon for non PC? Wow...I bet your truck has 50 inch tires to lol overcompensate.
lok rark wrote: Im 12 mil sp Day 1 heavy. I know my kdr before my Heavy was nerfed and my kdr now.
I'm happy for you, as long as you keep tryharding that's all that matters
lok rark wrote:Most people dont even read the posts just the guy above them ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) And you proved your own point in the same post. You're special kind of stupid, aren't you?
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MassiveNine
0uter.Heaven
692
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Posted - 2013.12.24 16:03:00 -
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He probably is battle. he doesn't know what it's like to be a true heavy
Official DUST514 LAV Mechanic
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
9343
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Posted - 2013.12.24 16:06:00 -
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Just zone them out, and only push behind a cooked locus grenade
Vids / O7
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CaoticFox
Axis of Chaos
85
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Posted - 2013.12.24 16:09:00 -
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the only thing OP about HVY is the fact that CCP thinks "H" means "H or L"... fix this, add a couple more "H" options... problem SOLVED! |
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
9343
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Posted - 2013.12.24 16:10:00 -
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CaoticFox wrote:the only thing OP about HVY is the fact that CCP thinks "H" means "H or L"... fix this, add a couple more "H" options... problem SOLVED! So long as you want a full respec with that, skippy
Vids / O7
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CaoticFox
Axis of Chaos
87
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Posted - 2013.12.24 16:24:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:CaoticFox wrote:the only thing OP about HVY is the fact that CCP thinks "H" means "H or L"... fix this, add a couple more "H" options... problem SOLVED! So long as you want a full respec with that, skippy I already posted on that VOTE... "S" should mean "S" "L" should mean "L" "H" should mean "H" CERTAIN WEAPONS SHOULD BE CLASS SPECIFIC (SR - SCT) "E" should be FILLED to VALIDATE the fitting and their should be a SCT suit ("S" - 2"E") some suits should have "S/L" slots HELL... CCP Email me, il fix your incompetence! |
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Brigitte Newt
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2013.12.24 16:24:00 -
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lok rark wrote:WTF CCP! ![Shocked](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_shocked.png) ![Evil](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_evil.png) ![Question](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_questionmark.png) ![Attention](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_attention.png) I feel like im looking a gift horse in the mouth. After months of me QQ about the Heavy CCP finally did a stealth buff. In their usual style overkill to the extreme. I just wanted it to be IDK normall/ fair/ OK. But they gave it some auto targeting lock on device like the assault rifle and more power and it just cuts people faces right off and sprays everything. It was mayhem before but its 3x more powerful and I CANT MISS. I cut through whole squads last night- protos also... I killed nearly 30 in afew matches. Only lost afew suits except for the odd games when I got stomped. Now they will have to nerf it again ![Sad](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_sad.png) or maybe its working as intended ![Ugh](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_ugh.png) Thoughts?
You obviously wasn't there when HMG was working. Please, stop posting anything from now on. |
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XxWarlordxX97
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
4108
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Posted - 2013.12.24 16:36:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:lok rark wrote:WTF CCP! ![Shocked](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_shocked.png) ![Evil](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_evil.png) ![Question](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_questionmark.png) ![Attention](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_attention.png) I feel like im looking a gift horse in the mouth. After months of me QQ about the Heavy CCP finally did a stealth buff. In their usual style overkill to the extreme. I just wanted it to be IDK normall/ fair/ OK. But they gave it some auto targeting lock on device like the assault rifle and more power and it just cuts people faces right off and sprays everything. It was mayhem before but its 3x more powerful and I CANT MISS. I cut through whole squads last night- protos also... I killed nearly 30 in afew matches. Only lost afew suits except for the odd games when I got stomped. Now they will have to nerf it again ![Sad](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_sad.png) or maybe its working as intended ![Ugh](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_ugh.png) Thoughts? Get out.
best post in this thread
Level 5 forum warrior
A Solo heavy Boss
I support tanks not being OP
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XxWarlordxX97
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
4110
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Posted - 2013.12.24 16:38:00 -
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Brigitte Newt wrote:lok rark wrote:WTF CCP! ![Shocked](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_shocked.png) ![Evil](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_evil.png) ![Question](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_questionmark.png) ![Attention](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_attention.png) I feel like im looking a gift horse in the mouth. After months of me QQ about the Heavy CCP finally did a stealth buff. In their usual style overkill to the extreme. I just wanted it to be IDK normall/ fair/ OK. But they gave it some auto targeting lock on device like the assault rifle and more power and it just cuts people faces right off and sprays everything. It was mayhem before but its 3x more powerful and I CANT MISS. I cut through whole squads last night- protos also... I killed nearly 30 in afew matches. Only lost afew suits except for the odd games when I got stomped. Now they will have to nerf it again ![Sad](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_sad.png) or maybe its working as intended ![Ugh](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_ugh.png) Thoughts? You obviously wasn't there when HMG was working. Please, stop posting anything from now on.
When heavy battles were Epic![Twisted](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png)
Level 5 forum warrior
A Solo heavy Boss
I support tanks not being OP
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XxWarlordxX97
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
4110
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Posted - 2013.12.24 16:40:00 -
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lok rark wrote:XxGhazbaranxX you are Legend The AI is whats OP. Do assault get that insane AI? HMG is only good CQC.... but noone can really tell, how good, untill tank 514 is over. Then...well jury is out. ![Question](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_questionmark.png) ![Idea](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_idea.png) BattleCry1791 IDK what to say... I tried to read it but i found it hard to get past 6mil. Do you know what a Gastun's mini gun is? Umm Yeah... I run that. MH-82 is usually enough but sometimes MO-40. Im 12 mil sp Day 1 heavy. I know my kdr before my Heavy was nerfed and my kdr now. Most people dont even read the posts just the guy above them ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) Lonewolf Heavy I got 30/2 IN ONE MATCH!
Your KDR before the heavy was nerfed?, My was 6.45 and going up![Twisted](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png)
Level 5 forum warrior
A Solo heavy Boss
I support tanks not being OP
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Aramis Madrigal
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
81
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Posted - 2013.12.24 16:44:00 -
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I don't play as a heavy on a regular/serious basis, so my perspective is based primarily on fighting heavies, but the HMG feels just about right currently. Previous to this patch, I could win most CQC battles against HMGs, even in sub-optimal conditions. There is no good reason an smg should outperform and HMG. If you want to dislodge a heavy from a socket/building, bring a friend and/or use grenades. If you catch him out in the open, you shouldn't have any problem killing a heavy. The buff to the HMG lets the heavy perform one of the intended roles for the frame (i.e. close quarters point defense). I think 1.7 has actually been decent for weapon balance and the HMG is just another example of this.
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
2165
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Posted - 2013.12.24 16:44:00 -
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Heavies aren't OP, it's the heavyweight wielding a light weapon spam that's annoying you. Trust me, every time I see a heavy, he's a MLT heavy with a freaking kaalakiota RR or viziam ScR. MLT should not be able to hold proto.
Proud member of the Commndo 6
<3 Commando AK.0
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iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
1248
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Posted - 2013.12.24 16:51:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Heavies aren't OP, it's the heavyweight wielding a light weapon spam that's annoying you. Trust me, every time I see a heavy, he's a MLT heavy with a freaking kaalakiota RR or viziam ScR. MLT should not be able to hold proto.
MLT tech with skills, you actually end up with more PG and CPU than you know what to do with.
"We spent so much time huddling inside buildings with tanks circling outside like a swarm of sharks around bait"
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Ablerober
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.12.24 16:55:00 -
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lok rark wrote:WTF CCP! ![Shocked](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_shocked.png) ![Evil](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_evil.png) ![Question](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_questionmark.png) ![Attention](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_attention.png) I feel like im looking a gift horse in the mouth. After months of me QQ about the Heavy CCP finally did a stealth buff. In their usual style overkill to the extreme. I just wanted it to be IDK normall/ fair/ OK. But they gave it some auto targeting lock on device like the assault rifle and more power and it just cuts people faces right off and sprays everything. It was mayhem before but its 3x more powerful and I CANT MISS. I cut through whole squads last night- protos also... I killed nearly 30 in afew matches. Only lost afew suits except for the odd games when I got stomped. Now they will have to nerf it again ![Sad](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_sad.png) or maybe its working as intended ![Ugh](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_ugh.png) Thoughts?
My only thought is how much I enjoy being a heavy and use (even the most basic) HMG to it's full potential. Whilst a few linger and stand their ground, the majority will run and hide.
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
1030
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Posted - 2013.12.24 17:01:00 -
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lok rark wrote:I totally agree.
My problem is with the auto targeting being to efficient.
I dont need Scotty to AIM for me... he f@cks up enough.
shut it off. Quit crying.
There was a time we fought good tankers. Now we just fight good tanks.
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Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
1340
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Posted - 2013.12.24 17:07:00 -
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Ablerober wrote:I fear no-one and never will.
Careful with that... those sneaky Remote Explosive scouts are counting on it. ![Evil](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_evil.png)
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Mitch Laurence
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
8
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Posted - 2013.12.24 17:11:00 -
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I'm glad heavies are big and scary now. Good for them!
"People will say we're in love." -Hannibal Lecter
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XxWarlordxX97
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
4111
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Posted - 2013.12.25 19:05:00 -
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Mitch Laurence wrote:I'm glad heavies are big and scary now. Good for them!
Chrome they were big and scary
Level 5 forum warrior
A Solo heavy Boss
I support tanks not being OP
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Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens League of Infamy
448
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Posted - 2013.12.27 00:53:00 -
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Mitch Laurence wrote:I'm glad heavies are big and scary now. Good for them! Chrome they were big and scary
Yeah, but only in a short hallway or if they drove up you in a LAV.
I still can't find tanks on the market. All I see are those HAVs.
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CommanderBolt
ACME SPECIAL FORCES
495
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Posted - 2013.12.27 00:56:00 -
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LOL how can you be in a corp called "Stealth squad" when you are a heavy!
There is no stealth in the HMG or Forge............ unless......... OMG! the theee dreaded light weapon heavy!! DUN DUN DUUUUNNNNNNNNNNN |
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Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1324
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Posted - 2013.12.27 01:07:00 -
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It sometimes a little over effective at longer ranges, but sailave. Now if they make shotguns that good at short range we will start to see a semblance of balance.
Tanks 514
I told you, I bloody well told you.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
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Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1324
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Posted - 2013.12.27 01:10:00 -
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Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Mitch Laurence wrote:I'm glad heavies are big and scary now. Good for them! Chrome they were big and scary Yeah, but only in a short hallway or if they drove up you in a LAV.
Thats effectively how it is now, I hide when I hear LAVs, and I always have REs ready when I fight in Complexes.
Tanks 514
I told you, I bloody well told you.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
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Summ Dude
Altyr Initiative
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Posted - 2013.12.27 02:17:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:It sometimes a little over effective at longer ranges, but sailave. Now if they make shotguns that good at short range we will start to see a semblance of balance.
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Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens League of Infamy
448
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Posted - 2013.12.27 04:53:00 -
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Summ Dude wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:It sometimes a little over effective at longer ranges, but sailave. Now if they make shotguns that good at short range we will start to see a semblance of balance. Do...do you mean "c'est la vie"? It's French.
YAY! I wasn't the grammar/spelling n@tzi this time.
I still can't find tanks on the market. All I see are those HAVs.
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Ivy Zalinto
Lo-Tech Solutions Ltd
218
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Posted - 2013.12.27 05:09:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:lok rark wrote:WTF CCP! ![Shocked](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_shocked.png) ![Evil](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_evil.png) ![Question](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_questionmark.png) ![Attention](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_attention.png) I feel like im looking a gift horse in the mouth. After months of me QQ about the Heavy CCP finally did a stealth buff. In their usual style overkill to the extreme. I just wanted it to be IDK normall/ fair/ OK. But they gave it some auto targeting lock on device like the assault rifle and more power and it just cuts people faces right off and sprays everything. It was mayhem before but its 3x more powerful and I CANT MISS. I cut through whole squads last night- protos also... I killed nearly 30 in afew matches. Only lost afew suits except for the odd games when I got stomped. Now they will have to nerf it again ![Sad](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_sad.png) or maybe its working as intended ![Ugh](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_ugh.png) Thoughts? Try facing a Heavy at 20+ meters, you'll have success unless they're using a Freedom Assault. Not if your in my scout suit XD I have to engage from even further back. They way it scatters now is a serious threat to my little suit just trying to snag a few kills. That being said heavies love to chase me. And im really good at baiting traps. ;)
Dedicated Stealth Scout.
Scout instructor; Learning Coalition
Scrambler Pistol dedication
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Ghost Kaisar
Titans of Phoenix
1341
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Posted - 2013.12.27 06:49:00 -
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Ivy Zalinto wrote:Patrick57 wrote:lok rark wrote:WTF CCP! ![Shocked](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_shocked.png) ![Evil](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_evil.png) ![Question](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_questionmark.png) ![Attention](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_attention.png) I feel like im looking a gift horse in the mouth. After months of me QQ about the Heavy CCP finally did a stealth buff. In their usual style overkill to the extreme. I just wanted it to be IDK normall/ fair/ OK. But they gave it some auto targeting lock on device like the assault rifle and more power and it just cuts people faces right off and sprays everything. It was mayhem before but its 3x more powerful and I CANT MISS. I cut through whole squads last night- protos also... I killed nearly 30 in afew matches. Only lost afew suits except for the odd games when I got stomped. Now they will have to nerf it again ![Sad](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_sad.png) or maybe its working as intended ![Ugh](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_ugh.png) Thoughts? Try facing a Heavy at 20+ meters, you'll have success unless they're using a Freedom Assault. Not if your in my scout suit XD I have to engage from even further back. They way it scatters now is a serious threat to my little suit just trying to snag a few kills. That being said heavies love to chase me. And im really good at baiting traps. ;)
Yup. Baiting heavies is easy.
Stabbing them is easier ![Twisted](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png)
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Elmo Love U
514 Mile High Club
529
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Posted - 2013.12.27 16:05:00 -
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Maximus Stryker wrote:The heavy and the HMG are fine. Up close they should rip people apart...and they finally do.
Finally when people see heavies they run or back off, not charge in for an easy kill. For scrubs maybe. I take out heavies first. I go face to face. While he's shooting me in my nuts,im blowing his brains out w my SCR.
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XxWarlordxX97
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
4116
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Posted - 2013.12.28 00:30:00 -
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Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Mitch Laurence wrote:I'm glad heavies are big and scary now. Good for them! Chrome they were big and scary Yeah, but only in a short hallway or if they drove up you in a LAV.
I was scary and no LAV or hallway![Twisted](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png)
Level 5 forum warrior
A Solo heavy Boss
I support tanks not being OP
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Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens League of Infamy
448
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Posted - 2013.12.28 05:49:00 -
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Mitch Laurence wrote:I'm glad heavies are big and scary now. Good for them! Chrome they were big and scary Yeah, but only in a short hallway or if they drove up you in a LAV. I was scary and no LAV or hallway ![Twisted](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png)
A friend of mine says otherwise.
I still can't find tanks on the market. All I see are those HAVs.
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Terisea Ming
WarRavens League of Infamy
0
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Posted - 2013.12.28 05:51:00 -
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Mitch Laurence wrote:I'm glad heavies are big and scary now. Good for them! Chrome they were big and scary Yeah, but only in a short hallway or if they drove up you in a LAV. I was scary and no LAV or hallway ![Twisted](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png)
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taxi bastard
Minor Trueblood
87
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Posted - 2013.12.28 06:05:00 -
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I still cannot believe the title of this thread. ![Shocked](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_shocked.png)
finally the heavy suit/HMG is balanced and people are QQing because its doing what it should do?
I will explain something for all the retards who are QQing.
shoot the heavy at medium- long range and you win
shoot the heavy at short range and you loose.
all those who used to sit at the HMG's optimal in your proto suit with a gek or duval, not move and win should have realised that this was not balanced. you may have mistaken it for skill but I assure you that there was no skill in it.
As I stopped using the heavy a while ago - I still prefer to use medium suits as its more versatile, but its nice to be able to know that when the time is right the HMG/heavy combo has its place again |
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