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Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
810
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Posted - 2013.12.22 12:21:00 -
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Heals Vaginas wrote:At the moment I am happy with them, they hurt, they can **** you up, they can be beaten.
They have gone from being almost humorous to deadly, and one of the last things you want to walk around corner and bump into. That isn't OP, thats a heavily armored mo fo with a gatling gun.
yes and us heavy mo fo's will rip anyone in close range a new *******
YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED!!!
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Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
810
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Posted - 2013.12.22 12:22:00 -
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Disturbingly Bored wrote:Player who got buffed saying he thinks it's OP. Players on the business end of the buffed gun come out to defend it and say it's okay and balanced. I'm not sure I've seen this on these forums before.
lol our victims are defending us heavies. its a good day to be a heavy
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lordjanuz
Norwegian Dust514 Corporation Top Men.
245
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Posted - 2013.12.22 12:24:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:Thoughts?
I want you to be quiet and leave.
+1 |
CrotchGrab 360
676
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Posted - 2013.12.22 12:32:00 -
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People normally say "you need to adapt"
they are STUPID when they say that in regards to the tank spam.
But here's the thing, this is an occasion where I agree with them because the heavy used to be great, people were shafted for MONTHS.
Now it's finally back in business.
You've had your toys, now they're got theirs.
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Synther Bix
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
144
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Posted - 2013.12.22 12:47:00 -
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I had some great fun on my heavy yesterday in domination.
Was some of the most intense and mental matches i ever played, there be clones coming at me from every direction. Couldn't be done with out my favorite logi bro though!
Top man in charge of Dust2Dust ~--~ Amarr standings - 4
one must imagine sisyphus happy
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NOAMIzzzzz
BIG BAD W0LVES
78
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Posted - 2013.12.22 12:51:00 -
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Omg shut the fack ap. |
DJINN Nukem
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
70
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Posted - 2013.12.22 14:42:00 -
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i love how most Ar users are happy with this buff.
because it is working as intended,
if you come near my HMG you will die, if you are stupid enough to stand still I will rip you in half, easy enough,
BUT, if your smart and stay back you will will kill me in no time trying to get close to you.
HMG OWNS THE CITY NOW, stay outside and do whatever ya want
this thread is AWSOME,
Trample The Weak Hurdle the Dead
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Angeal Wolfbane
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
7
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Posted - 2013.12.24 02:29:00 -
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For those of you that are whining about the HMG. Cry me a river. It's not the heavies fault that you guys come charging at us with your little assault rifle that is meant from a distance. Stop all of your whining and grow up. And two, your assault do more damage, so don't whine about our damage when your little assault rifles tear us heavies apart! |
StaySqueezy
ZilchmobZ Industries
5
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Posted - 2013.12.24 02:47:00 -
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Don't think the heavy's are OP. If your around a lot of them just spawn one yourself. They are pretty much useless at a distance so just stock up on a rail or combat rifle and pick 'em off.
"How do you keep a dog from biting you on monday?".........."You kill it on sunday."
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KING CHECKMATE
Scions of Athra
3476
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Posted - 2013.12.24 02:48:00 -
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lok rark wrote:WTF CCP! I feel like im looking a gift horse in the mouth. After months of me QQ about the Heavy CCP finally did a stealth buff. In their usual style overkill to the extreme. I just wanted it to be IDK normall/ fair/ OK. But they gave it some auto targeting lock on device like the assault rifle and more power and it just cuts people faces right off and sprays everything. It was mayhem before but its 3x more powerful and I CANT MISS. I cut through whole squads last night- protos also... I killed nearly 30 in afew matches. Only lost afew suits except for the odd games when I got stomped. Now they will have to nerf it again or maybe its working as intended Thoughts?
Dudes heavies are ok.
I'll take down any heavy thats ALONE with my BPO SCR rifle and Toxin SMG.
Chill man.
AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446
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XxGhazbaranxX
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
855
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Posted - 2013.12.24 03:27:00 -
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lok rark wrote:I totally agree.
My problem is with the auto targeting being to efficient.
I dont need Scotty to AIM for me... he f@cks up enough.
AA is why you feel it's op. Before the hotfix the HMG had an accuracy rating of 61. When firing it, it felt like using a laser rifle in cqc since the center dot had to be on target 100% of the time to apply the dps ccp gave it on paper. By reducing accuracy down to 38.99 ccp effectively made it so anything in the circle will receive massive amounts of damage at the cost of a reduced optimal of 28 meters post hotfix instead of the 31 pre hotfix.
At cqc the hmg should be king as intended by ccp but if you feel you have an unfair advantage, you can always turn off aa. Balancing a weapon based on it performance with aa turned on is wrong and should never be done.
Plasma Cannon Advocate
For every niche there is a Rifle
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Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
1336
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Posted - 2013.12.24 03:35:00 -
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XxGhazbaranxX wrote:By reducing accuracy down to 38.99 ccp effectively made it so anything in the circle will receive massive amounts of damage at the cost of a reduced optimal of 28 meters post hotfix instead of the 31 pre hotfix.
Any more tasty info you gleaned from testing, Ghaz? I've been trying to keep an eye out for an in-depth analysis of the HMG changes from ya.
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Horizen Kenpachi
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
48
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Posted - 2013.12.24 03:36:00 -
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lok rark wrote:Quote:Thoughts?
I want you to be quiet and leave. your evil But so right
Hit me with your nerf bat.
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Horizen Kenpachi
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
48
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Posted - 2013.12.24 03:40:00 -
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Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote:As a Logi-Bro, I love my new badass heavy sidekicks Hell yeah
Hit me with your nerf bat.
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BattleCry1791
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
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Posted - 2013.12.24 07:12:00 -
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Seriously OP?
SERIOUSLY?
As a dedicated Heavy from the beta that QUIT the Heavy on my main and now only play as a Heavy on a 6 mil SP alt lemme explain something to you.
WORKING AS INTENDED
In CQC the Heavy is supposed to own everything. Including those pesky scout/shotgun combos. In CQC it's supposed to to be the apex predator.
Since you've obviously never played as a Heavy (evidenced by your whining and crying about the HMG being OP), let me fill you in on a few things.
1) 90% of the maps on this game favor the AR/RR. 2) AV grenades eat LAVs 3) Thale users love seeing heavies on Manus Peak or any of the other wide open maps. 4) Heavies tend to be out of place in Dom unless the letter is in a building. 5) Heavies never escape an orbital 6) Unless you have proto class forges today's tanks can out run your reload
Prior to the WELL PUBLICIZED changes to the Heavy, the Heavy was a dead class. It had one gun and that gun, the HMG sucked. Now it actually works. Should an Advanced Heavy be able to take down Proto gear in CQC? Damn straight.
If you choose to walk into the Heavies prime kill zone wearing the equivalent of a bathrobe and bunny slippers, that's not the Heavy's fault. That's your fault for walking in there. Problem is that after you get a few kills here and there as a Heavy in CQC, guys either quit coming or they grenade spam you and rush you en mass, negating your natural advantage.
Quit whining. You don't have to "HTFU". You just need to understand that the Heavy sucks on most parts of these maps and their AV can't keep up with swarm launchers. But in that small area, that 0-20m...it's where they are supposed to dominate. And finally, they do. |
m twiggz
Pradox One Proficiency V.
178
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Posted - 2013.12.24 07:18:00 -
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Until 1.7 I had never ran away from a heavy. Now I find myself doing it all the time to get in a better position. I really enjoy that they're finally what they should have always been. Something CCP finally balanced correctly. Now give them other suits for me to kill. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
1427
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Posted - 2013.12.24 08:17:00 -
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the whining has come full-circle.
We have come back to complaints about heavies with HMGs being OP after a year.
I am eagerly awaiting people to explain why heavies actually dominating in a point-blank firefight is unfair. |
Lonewolf Heavy
ROGUE SPADES
4
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Posted - 2013.12.24 08:33:00 -
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lok rark wrote:WTF CCP! I feel like im looking a gift horse in the mouth. After months of me QQ about the Heavy CCP finally did a stealth buff. In their usual style overkill to the extreme. I just wanted it to be IDK normall/ fair/ OK. But they gave it some auto targeting lock on device like the assault rifle and more power and it just cuts people faces right off and sprays everything. It was mayhem before but its 3x more powerful and I CANT MISS. I cut through whole squads last night- protos also... I killed nearly 30 in afew matches. Only lost afew suits except for the odd games when I got stomped. Now they will have to nerf it again or maybe its working as intended Thoughts?
Just quit playing dust. They are supposed to be a pain in the ass in CQC, Aim Assist isn't really doing much for us either. What is actually making the difference is that they fixed our aim on HMGs. because previously even though the aim shows that we have this large area we are hitting it was in fact only hitting around the center, now it is actually hitting the entire marked area.
Also getting 30 kills over a few matches, pretty much says you don't know how to use your heavy. I can get that in 2 matches at most in a militia heavy with a basic HMG.
Blueberries are delicious and an essential part of my diet ;)
Commando/Heavy
Willing to PC for anyone for a low price
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lee corwood
Knights Of Ender Public Disorder.
75
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Posted - 2013.12.24 08:34:00 -
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My favorite moment is when there is heavy on heavy action, and the other heavy is too late to see I have mine on a leash. Poor heavy. All alone.
Minmatar Logisis | Heavy lover. Come get some badass Band-Aids from this chick
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lok rark
StealthSquad
19
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Posted - 2013.12.24 08:40:00 -
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XxGhazbaranxX you are Legend
The AI is whats OP. Do assault get that insane AI? HMG is only good CQC.... but noone can really tell, how good, untill tank 514 is over. Then...well jury is out.
BattleCry1791 IDK what to say... I tried to read it but i found it hard to get past 6mil.
Do you know what a Gastun's mini gun is? Umm Yeah... I run that. MH-82 is usually enough but sometimes MO-40.
Im 12 mil sp Day 1 heavy. I know my kdr before my Heavy was nerfed and my kdr now.
Most people dont even read the posts just the guy above them
Lonewolf Heavy I got 30/2 IN ONE MATCH! |
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Omareth Nasadra
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
216
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Posted - 2013.12.24 08:53:00 -
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i'm an assault and think the heavys are just perfect now, these thing should be feared and you should gang up to take one down in cqc, i was sick of melting them like buttter with my smg, they should be feared ffs, if you end up in their optimal range they deserve to waste you, wanna kill them, use range, or flank them, backstab them, but they should wreck you if you face them in a frontal assault, working as intended, now if only they could fix scout, i'm skilling into minja and wish i could be feared as the sneaky bastard i'd like to be
Minmatar, In rust we trust!!!
Omareth Nasadra/Erynyes
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Lonewolf Heavy
ROGUE SPADES
5
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Posted - 2013.12.24 09:04:00 -
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lok rark wrote:XxGhazbaranxX you are Legend The AI is whats OP. Do assault get that insane AI? HMG is only good CQC.... but noone can really tell, how good, untill tank 514 is over. Then...well jury is out. BattleCry1791 IDK what to say... I tried to read it but i found it hard to get past 6mil. Do you know what a Gastun's mini gun is? Umm Yeah... I run that. MH-82 is usually enough but sometimes MO-40. Im 12 mil sp Day 1 heavy. I know my kdr before my Heavy was nerfed and my kdr now. Most people dont even read the posts just the guy above them Lonewolf Heavy I got 30/2 IN ONE MATCH!
I read your post my friend
I respect that, go 42 and 5 in militia (I refuse to use anything above standard in Pubs) I want to squad with you sometime. You sound fun.
Blueberries are delicious and an essential part of my diet ;)
Commando/Heavy
Willing to PC for anyone for a low price
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BattleCry1791
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
283
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Posted - 2013.12.24 15:59:00 -
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lok rark wrote: BattleCry1791 IDK what to say... I tried to read it but i found it hard to get past 6mil.
Interesting, because that part was after where I said: As a dedicated Heavy from the beta that QUIT the Heavy on my main I logged over 15 million SP as a Heavy and played the role in Beta. I really don't play on that account anymore so the fact that it's over 20mil now is due just to passive bonus. It was the one account that I made sure I maxed every week for months and bout boosters for. The 5mil account this is now my heavy is my 5th account that until recently was just about ALL passively earned.
lok rark wrote: Do you know what a Gastun's mini gun is? Umm Yeah... I run that. MH-82 is usually enough but sometimes MO-40.
You're using an officer weapon for non PC? Wow...I bet your truck has 50 inch tires to lol overcompensate.
lok rark wrote: Im 12 mil sp Day 1 heavy. I know my kdr before my Heavy was nerfed and my kdr now.
I'm happy for you, as long as you keep tryharding that's all that matters
lok rark wrote:Most people dont even read the posts just the guy above them And you proved your own point in the same post. You're special kind of stupid, aren't you?
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MassiveNine
0uter.Heaven
692
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Posted - 2013.12.24 16:03:00 -
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He probably is battle. he doesn't know what it's like to be a true heavy
Official DUST514 LAV Mechanic
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
9343
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Posted - 2013.12.24 16:06:00 -
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Just zone them out, and only push behind a cooked locus grenade
Vids / O7
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CaoticFox
Axis of Chaos
85
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Posted - 2013.12.24 16:09:00 -
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the only thing OP about HVY is the fact that CCP thinks "H" means "H or L"... fix this, add a couple more "H" options... problem SOLVED! |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
9343
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Posted - 2013.12.24 16:10:00 -
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CaoticFox wrote:the only thing OP about HVY is the fact that CCP thinks "H" means "H or L"... fix this, add a couple more "H" options... problem SOLVED! So long as you want a full respec with that, skippy
Vids / O7
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CaoticFox
Axis of Chaos
87
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Posted - 2013.12.24 16:24:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:CaoticFox wrote:the only thing OP about HVY is the fact that CCP thinks "H" means "H or L"... fix this, add a couple more "H" options... problem SOLVED! So long as you want a full respec with that, skippy I already posted on that VOTE... "S" should mean "S" "L" should mean "L" "H" should mean "H" CERTAIN WEAPONS SHOULD BE CLASS SPECIFIC (SR - SCT) "E" should be FILLED to VALIDATE the fitting and their should be a SCT suit ("S" - 2"E") some suits should have "S/L" slots HELL... CCP Email me, il fix your incompetence! |
Brigitte Newt
The Rainbow Effect
73
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Posted - 2013.12.24 16:24:00 -
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lok rark wrote:WTF CCP! I feel like im looking a gift horse in the mouth. After months of me QQ about the Heavy CCP finally did a stealth buff. In their usual style overkill to the extreme. I just wanted it to be IDK normall/ fair/ OK. But they gave it some auto targeting lock on device like the assault rifle and more power and it just cuts people faces right off and sprays everything. It was mayhem before but its 3x more powerful and I CANT MISS. I cut through whole squads last night- protos also... I killed nearly 30 in afew matches. Only lost afew suits except for the odd games when I got stomped. Now they will have to nerf it again or maybe its working as intended Thoughts?
You obviously wasn't there when HMG was working. Please, stop posting anything from now on. |
XxWarlordxX97
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
4108
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Posted - 2013.12.24 16:36:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:lok rark wrote:WTF CCP! I feel like im looking a gift horse in the mouth. After months of me QQ about the Heavy CCP finally did a stealth buff. In their usual style overkill to the extreme. I just wanted it to be IDK normall/ fair/ OK. But they gave it some auto targeting lock on device like the assault rifle and more power and it just cuts people faces right off and sprays everything. It was mayhem before but its 3x more powerful and I CANT MISS. I cut through whole squads last night- protos also... I killed nearly 30 in afew matches. Only lost afew suits except for the odd games when I got stomped. Now they will have to nerf it again or maybe its working as intended Thoughts? Get out.
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Level 5 forum warrior
A Solo heavy Boss
I support tanks not being OP
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