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Ghosts Chance
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Posted - 2013.12.21 11:05:00 -
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specialist weapons and the faction equipment are priceless
cant obtain them anywhere else and they alow for extreme suit fittings and setups.
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Ghosts Chance
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Posted - 2013.12.21 11:16:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:specialist weapons and the faction equipment are priceless
cant obtain them anywhere else and they alow for extreme suit fittings and setups.
The faction equipment is outperformed by variants you can buy normally, for the most part. Specialist weapons can easily be replaced by an ADV version for the same fittings and only marginally less damage.
so regular nanite injectors have a 100% res?
a 90 rep per second core repair?
the uplinks are lackluster ill give you that.
and the anti-scout scanner has double the visability.
so aside from the uplinks your wrong. |
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Posted - 2013.12.21 11:29:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:specialist weapons and the faction equipment are priceless
cant obtain them anywhere else and they alow for extreme suit fittings and setups.
The faction equipment is outperformed by variants you can buy normally, for the most part. Specialist weapons can easily be replaced by an ADV version for the same fittings and only marginally less damage. so regular nanite injectors have a 100% res? a 90 rep per second core repair? the uplinks are lackluster ill give you that. and the anti-scout scanner has double the visability. so aside from the uplinks your wrong. Proto nanite injectors do 100%. Focused Core Repair tool does 175 hp/s.
proto injectors do 80%
the repper is a better version of a different varient of repair tool :P so while the focused repairs more, the republic one is better in other areas
plus FW was made with the market in mind.
and those exclusive items + salvage from the match will INCREASE the isk payout per match.
so while right NOW its not worth it to run proto (obviously) once the market launches (SOONtm) the isk generation from FW will go WAY up |
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Posted - 2013.12.21 11:41:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:specialist weapons and the faction equipment are priceless
cant obtain them anywhere else and they alow for extreme suit fittings and setups.
The faction equipment is outperformed by variants you can buy normally, for the most part. Specialist weapons can easily be replaced by an ADV version for the same fittings and only marginally less damage. so regular nanite injectors have a 100% res? a 90 rep per second core repair? the uplinks are lackluster ill give you that. and the anti-scout scanner has double the visability. so aside from the uplinks your wrong. 90 rep per second core repair - check, six kin triage. Duvolle quantum > the federation scanner. Nanite injectors with 100%, I'll give you that. But barely, seeing as that 20% will rarely make a difference. The nanohives are also pointless because ammo is plentiful with semidecent hives anyway. And, as you said, the uplinks are lacklustre.
plus FW was made with the market in mind.
and those exclusive items + salvage from the match will INCREASE the isk payout per match.
so while right NOW its not worth it to run proto (obviously) once the market launches (SOONtm) the isk generation from FW will go WAY up
by your own numbers this will double to tripple the FW ISK profits over pub matches depending on market values (since popular AUR gear will also be more valuble then regular isk gear due to reduced skill requirements, meaning that republic freedom will sell for more then the isk freedom :P
by YOUR numbers FW pays out on average the same as a pub match.... and nobody uses proto there right? |
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Posted - 2013.12.21 13:27:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:FEELIN FROGGY wrote:I can't even believe you are complaining about this. Caldari have it 10x as hard as you stinky Frogs. My main is still only lvl 2 Caldari after doing dozens and dozens of matches. Know why, because we hardly ever fuking win, thus never gain standing.
All you Frogs have the easy mode on cruise control because there are so damn many of you spamming FW and so few Caldari. You could AFK all the time and make more LP than I ever will actually trying to win a game.
STFU you little bitchh! He brings up a good point in an obtuse way (p.s. Totally support griefing Gallente, why should they be immune). One of the bigger issues is that it's all or none and payouts have little to nothing to do with your contribution. I could AFK in Gallente FW for a single day and gain substantially more LP and standings than I have in the past week of playing hard and dying in Amarr FW. The worst blueberry on the winning team who goes 1/15 with 50 WP gets 10x the benefits of the best player on the losing side who goes 12/10 with 2000 WP (been there done that). Same with someone who AFK'd. That's wrong. No question that winning should get you a bigger payout, but all or nothing is BS and is only going to make FW more unbalanced because people are bailing out (on Caldari especially) in droves.
win loss ratio kinda defeats that
1 AFK player loweres the chance of a win.
so you will lose more games AFKing then if you were playing. lowering your LP gain.
a good squad with a high win loss ratio in FW will make substantially more playing then AFKing.
its a higher level of play in FW, winning MEANS something, and people will play hard for the win as a result, right now without the market its lackluster, but once the market comes the payouts from wins and salvage will STILL pay out more isk then pub matches.
for instance, as amaar against proto stomping minmatar you will make substantial isk in salvage alone, alowing you to run decent gear without draining your wallet without a win.
and those wins will be substatially more profitable as amaar then on the oposit side as minmatar due to reduced availability of amaar LP items, their ISK values will be ALOT higher and so much more profit will be made off wins for amaar then minmatar.
it sucks right now because there is no market, but once the market comes out the profit for FW will pay for itself even on losing teams. |
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Posted - 2013.12.21 14:10:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:You are assuming that if you AFK in Gallente FW you are more likely to lose than if you play well in Caldari. That assumption is incorrect.
me and my squad did caldari and win 80% of our games....
its not as hard to win as you think, it just requires that you bring friends. |
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Posted - 2013.12.21 14:34:00 -
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im moving back over to winmatar soon, not becuase of jumping on the bandwagon, but because everything i run is minmatar, suits, guns, explosives, all of it....
i want dem specialist combat rifles... OP ADV assault incoming |
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