DUST Search - Helpless little infantry

Fox Gaden wrote:

Darken-Sol wrote:

I love how experienced tankers are saying MLT tanks are the problem. It shows a lack of integrity. Many have taken the stance of claiming to not kill infantry. They are trying to pin the blame on the ability to call in cheap MLT tanks.

lets ask a few questions.

what do you think is going to happen to the price of STD tanks if MLT goes up?

How will nerfing MLT tanks help the fact that AV can't effectively counter tanks?

what are these crusaders going to shoot at when there are no MLT tanks?

if it takes 3 AV to deal with a tank and there are 3tanks, how many are left to fight the other 13 guys on the ground?

Do people honestly believe the smoke screen these skilled tankers are putting up?

Be honest here because I play both sides. How many rail tanks does it take to stop vehicles from coming in?

If you don't have a skilled tanker how will you deal with another skilled tanker?

IMO these guys are incapable of seeing anything beyond their own turret. Its the tanking mentality. I have it too. When another tank on my team gets popped in always thinking "better him than me". I think this is something like that. What they do not realize is it will be more like "first him then me".

one more question.

After you get rid of your scapegoat, what will you hide behind?

I personally believe we will then have a crusade against OP tanks and it will come down to buffing AV. Its obvious really. So we see the tankers care nothing for the infantry they are now painting as the victim. They are just buying time until CCP gives us the means to defend ourselves. Its all very short sighted.

a final question. Why wait for balance?

We will not be able to effectively examine the balance between dedicated AV and dedicated tankers until this Militia tank spam is cleared up. Right now the Tanks often have the advantage of numbers on top of their other advantages.

I donGÇÖt think Militia tanks should be nerfed, at least not at this stage, beyond taking away things that can be added back in with skills. I donGÇÖt think we should look at increasing the price too much yet either. At least not yet. The fist priority is to bring back the skill distinction between dedicated pilots and people who have no skill points invested in vehicles.

This would also mean that an expensive fitted tank, called in by a tanker, would not be nearly as effective in the hands of a non tanker.

That and a bit of a Swarm Launcher buff should clear up the non-pilot tank spam. Then we could look at AV/Tank balance without all the clutter.


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Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 382	Posted - 2013.12.20 10:48:00 - [1] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: I love how experienced tankers are saying MLT tanks are the problem. It shows a lack of integrity. Many have taken the stance of claiming to not kill infantry. They are trying to pin the blame on the ability to call in cheap MLT tanks. lets ask a few questions. what do you think is going to happen to the price of STD tanks if MLT goes up? How will nerfing MLT tanks help the fact that AV can't effectively counter tanks? what are these crusaders going to shoot at when there are no MLT tanks? if it takes 3 AV to deal with a tank and there are 3tanks, how many are left to fight the other 13 guys on the ground? Do people honestly believe the smoke screen these skilled tankers are putting up? Be honest here because I play both sides. How many rail tanks does it take to stop vehicles from coming in? If you don't have a skilled tanker how will you deal with another skilled tanker? IMO these guys are incapable of seeing anything beyond their own turret. Its the tanking mentality. I have it too. When another tank on my team gets popped in always thinking "better him than me". I think this is something like that. What they do not realize is it will be more like "first him then me". one more question. After you get rid of your scapegoat, what will you hide behind? I personally believe we will then have a crusade against OP tanks and it will come down to buffing AV. Its obvious really. So we see the tankers care nothing for the infantry they are now painting as the victim. They are just buying time until CCP gives us the means to defend ourselves. Its all very short sighted. a final question. Why wait for balance? We will not be able to effectively examine the balance between dedicated AV and dedicated tankers until this Militia tank spam is cleared up. Right now the Tanks often have the advantage of numbers on top of their other advantages. I donGÇÖt think Militia tanks should be nerfed, at least not at this stage, beyond taking away things that can be added back in with skills. I donGÇÖt think we should look at increasing the price too much yet either. At least not yet. The fist priority is to bring back the skill distinction between dedicated pilots and people who have no skill points invested in vehicles. This would also mean that an expensive fitted tank, called in by a tanker, would not be nearly as effective in the hands of a non tanker. That and a bit of a Swarm Launcher buff should clear up the non-pilot tank spam. Then we could look at AV/Tank balance without all the clutter. That would only be possile by buffin the std tanks and do we REALLY need even stronger tanks? Come on what Do you think a tanker will do once the is no other tank to shoot at (well at least those that did not shoot infantry before)? Do you really believe they will recall their tanks to be part of the infantry game?