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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2013.12.18 16:04:00 -
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Compare the Amarr and Gallente's PG/CPU...
Gallente PRO Assault: 60 PG / 300 CPU
Amarr PRO Assault: 70 PG / 350 CPU
While they are technically able to fit less modules, more of those modules can be prototype due to the extra PG/CPU.
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2013.12.18 18:23:00 -
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Magnus Amadeuss wrote:
To Ripley Riley:
Amarrian weapons have way higher fitting requirements than any other races, hence the higher fitting. That advantage is nearly fully mitigated when fitting the weapons the suits were designed to use.
Proto Amarr Rifle: 92 CPU 20 PG
Proto Gallente Rifle: 90 CPU 13 PG (67.5 CPU 9 PG on Gallente assault)
Proto Caldari Rifle: 84 CPU 17 PG
Proto Minmatar Rifle: 81 CPU 8 PG
Amarr have an artificial fitting advantage because Amarrian weapons are hogs and amarrian suits are gimped with one less slot.
Amarr ships in Eve get passive bonuses when using weaponry that align with their race's weapon system (Amarr get bonuses with lasers, Gallente with drones and hybrid weapons, etc.) What bonuses, in Dust, force Amarr to use laser weapons?
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2013.12.18 18:41:00 -
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Magnus Amadeuss wrote:Same for gallente and amarrian assaults in dust.
Gall assault = 25% redution to hybrid weapons fitting requirements
Amarr assault = 25% reduction in heat build-up.
Nothing in eve or dust prevents these suits/ships from using non-bonused weapons, but the suits/ships are DESIGNED with those weapons in mind. Just like how in eve amarrian boats have higher CPU/PG than minmatar boats, so do amarrian assault suits in dust.
Obviously this ONLY mainly to assaults, because the difference between fittings for logis is not in amarrian favor.
caldari 350 CPU > amarr/gallente/minmatar logi at 390 CPU
amarr 72 PG > Gallente/caldari/minmatar 78 PG
Of course here the gallente suit has a MAJOR fitting advantage over all the other suits due to it's 25% reduction to equipment fitting.
As always, more slots >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slightly more fitting, especially when that fitting is equalized through weapon fittings.
I realized this shortly after I submitted my contribution. I have since edited my response.
Ripley Riley wrote:The difference between the lowest rifle (combat rifle) and the highest rifle (laser rifle) CPU is 11... The Amarr PG/CPU net bonus is 62... that still means Amarr using laser rifles are gaining 51 more CPU than Minmatar dropsuits.
We aren't even considering the Light Weapon Operation skill (3% reduction to CPU per level, 15% reduce when maxed) would reduce the CPU cost of high CPU weapons more than low CPU weapons.
Also, I am fairly sure that the PRO laser rifle has a PG of 10, not 20.
"I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2013.12.18 18:58:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:I really wish that the DEVs would take a look at this at the least.
I may be playing devil's advocate here, but I actually agree with you: Amarr suits are not competitive compared to the same tier.
In Eve, the poor agility and max speed of the Amarr ships is an inconvenience. In Dust, being less mobile is crippling. I hate seeing the rest of my squad speed pass me when we are taking an objective or rushing a front.
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