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The Final Fantasy Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 15	Posted - 2013.12.18 10:37:00 - [1] - Quote All other vehicles got a isk reduction saw a guy post a fitting of a tank all proto cost him 180k my ass ship cost 500k and now they're not op a mlt rail can 1shot me,who would have thought ccp forgot to add stack penaltys on vehicles damage mods
Grimmiers 0uter.Heaven 381	Posted - 2013.12.18 10:50:00 - [2] - Quote I run ads too and I often lose my 2.5k shields to one rail hit... and they are too expensive compared to other vehicles that can arguably do more work on the battle. SoundCloud Recruiter Link Pronounced Grim-e-urs
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 477	Posted - 2013.12.18 10:54:00 - [3] - Quote as a professional gunner and pilot in training ive noticed that hardeners and situational awareness are the only things that will save your ship. pythons particularly have be careful of the railgun, always checking to make sure the enemy redline is clear of them and only engaging targets while the hardener/s are not only off cooldown but also active. keep in mind that the assault dropships are a specialisation, and more expensive then say the myrons (the dropship equivilant to the std tanks) you can run VERY cheap myrons if you have gunners handy and dont mind not having your own gun, it helps to be squad lead for the orbitals, and the extra WPs to make up for it. even having a single gunner who is willing to split the cost of the ship 50/50 in a myron makes the cost of the dropships negligable
jerrmy12 kahoalii The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 152	Posted - 2013.12.18 11:24:00 - [4] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: as a professional gunner and pilot in training ive noticed that hardeners and situational awareness are the only things that will save your ship. pythons particularly have be careful of the railgun, always checking to make sure the enemy redline is clear of them and only engaging targets while the hardener/s are not only off cooldown but also active. keep in mind that the assault dropships are a specialisation, and more expensive then say the myrons (the dropship equivilant to the std tanks) you can run VERY cheap myrons if you have gunners handy and dont mind not having your own gun, it helps to be squad lead for the orbitals, and the extra WPs to make up for it. even having a single gunner who is willing to split the cost of the ship 50/50 in a myron makes the cost of the dropships negligable thier hull needs to e 150k or 130 or else im out til rails get nerfed finally recuruit link 5 to 11 mil isk per 100k recuruit
Lorhak Gannarsein 750	Posted - 2013.12.18 11:27:00 - [5] - Quote The Final Fantasy wrote: All other vehicles got a isk reduction saw a guy post a fitting of a tank all proto cost him 180k my ass ship cost 500k and now they're not op a mlt rail can 1shot me,who would have thought ccp forgot to add stack penaltys on vehicles damage mods wut? Go have a look at the price of the prototype large turrets and come back. Then realise that you're playing a role, and you're being charged accordingly. We can expect that Enforcers and Marauders will be comparably more expensive, too. >Cosgar: You know, tanks are actually paper thin once their modules are in cooldown.
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 477	Posted - 2013.12.18 11:38:00 - [6] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: as a professional gunner and pilot in training ive noticed that hardeners and situational awareness are the only things that will save your ship. pythons particularly have be careful of the railgun, always checking to make sure the enemy redline is clear of them and only engaging targets while the hardener/s are not only off cooldown but also active. keep in mind that the assault dropships are a specialisation, and more expensive then say the myrons (the dropship equivilant to the std tanks) you can run VERY cheap myrons if you have gunners handy and dont mind not having your own gun, it helps to be squad lead for the orbitals, and the extra WPs to make up for it. even having a single gunner who is willing to split the cost of the ship 50/50 in a myron makes the cost of the dropships negligable thier hull needs to e 150k or 130 or else im out til rails get nerfed finally sooo your out then?
Beld Errmon The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 1148	Posted - 2013.12.18 11:55:00 - [7] - Quote The price of the ADS reflects its value on the battlefield, cheaper would be nice but you need to remember its the only tier 3 vehicle still in the game, best decision ccp ever made not taking them out cause normal dropships are still terrible at using their gunners to kill things.
jerrmy12 kahoalii The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 152	Posted - 2013.12.18 11:58:00 - [8] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: The price of the ADS reflects its value on the battlefield, cheaper would be nice but you need to remember its the only tier 3 vehicle still in the game, best decision ccp ever made not taking them out cause normal dropships are still terrible at using their gunners to kill things. they do the same exact things as tanks but are slower and weak recuruit link 5 to 11 mil isk per 100k recuruit
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 477	Posted - 2013.12.18 12:03:00 - [9] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Beld Errmon wrote: The price of the ADS reflects its value on the battlefield, cheaper would be nice but you need to remember its the only tier 3 vehicle still in the game, best decision ccp ever made not taking them out cause normal dropships are still terrible at using their gunners to kill things. they do the same exact things as tanks but are slower and weak my ADS is faster.... get better gunners :P my first two games back into ADS in 1.7 were 29-0 and 30-0 games... as a gunner in a 3 man ADS team weve gotten 40+ kills as a group in a single dropship killed many many many tanks
Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 450	Posted - 2013.12.18 12:07:00 - [10] - Quote HAV hunting is a role that dropships are probably very well suited to fill now. HAVs can't run away from dropships when their hardeners are down.

Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 477	Posted - 2013.12.18 12:10:00 - [11] - Quote Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe wrote: HAV hunting is a role that dropships are probably very well suited to fill now. HAVs can't run away from dropships when their hardeners are down. this! dropships are awesome at AV hunting, any dropship with a single gunner and a team of AV granade/flux toting AV infantry are instant tank killers, no escape. just an ADS with a single gunner will take out a tank easily when its hardeners are on cooldown and have the mobility to track it while it runs away. air dominance is definatly an effective anti tank stratagy now.
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 1385	Posted - 2013.12.18 12:11:00 - [12] - Quote The Final Fantasy wrote: All other vehicles got a isk reduction saw a guy post a fitting of a tank all proto cost him 180k my ass ship cost 500k and now they're not op a mlt rail can 1shot me,who would have thought ccp forgot to add stack penaltys on vehicles damage mods Everything but tanks is to expensive to run right now.
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Redline Defense Force Seekers of the Unseen 90	Posted - 2013.12.18 12:18:00 - [13] - Quote I save money by going really high, do a couple back and frontflips, and barrel rolls, using a militia dropship, and teasing installations and forgies whilst playing bait. And not crashing helps. 'Don't talk to strangers, shoot them.' Snow LOCKOUT You'd just LOVE to think it was the wind. Dropship Extremist
Yoma Carrim Situation Normal all fraked up 142	Posted - 2013.12.18 12:34:00 - [14] - Quote The Final Fantasy wrote: All other vehicles got a isk reduction saw a guy post a fitting of a tank all proto cost him 180k my ass ship cost 500k and now they're not op a mlt rail can 1shot me,who would have thought ccp forgot to add stack penaltys on vehicles damage mods Deh heck I've got an all proto tank and it costs me upwards of half a mill What turrets was this guy using......oh wait LP tank When you turn a corner and find the entire enemy team.Oh Heck Logi, Tanker, Heavy
Beld Errmon The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 1148	Posted - 2013.12.18 13:05:00 - [15] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Beld Errmon wrote: The price of the ADS reflects its value on the battlefield, cheaper would be nice but you need to remember its the only tier 3 vehicle still in the game, best decision ccp ever made not taking them out cause normal dropships are still terrible at using their gunners to kill things. they do the same exact things as tanks but are slower and weak You know nothing Jon Snow. As for tank hunting.... for anything but a militia tank with a terrible driver, its almost mathematically impossible for an ADS to take down a tank solo, well maybe shield tanks can be destroyed outright but an armor tank can for the most part just soak it up, not something that bothers me honestly.
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 478	Posted - 2013.12.18 13:22:00 - [16] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Beld Errmon wrote: The price of the ADS reflects its value on the battlefield, cheaper would be nice but you need to remember its the only tier 3 vehicle still in the game, best decision ccp ever made not taking them out cause normal dropships are still terrible at using their gunners to kill things. they do the same exact things as tanks but are slower and weak You know nothing Jon Snow. As for tank hunting.... for anything but a militia tank with a terrible driver, its almost mathematically impossible for an ADS to take down a tank solo, well maybe shield tanks can be destroyed outright but an armor tank can for the most part just soak it up, not something that bothers me honestly. tell that to the tanks i blow up
Anmol Singh The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 567	Posted - 2013.12.18 13:24:00 - [17] - Quote The Final Fantasy wrote: All other vehicles got a isk reduction saw a guy post a fitting of a tank all proto cost him 180k my ass ship cost 500k and now they're not op a mlt rail can 1shot me,who would have thought ccp forgot to add stack penaltys on vehicles damage mods my tank costs 500k isk... 280k isk for my proto missiles... Anyway, at least you out of harms way and those stupid blaster madrugars... *Sagaris lover!!!* Commando <3
The Final Fantasy Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 15	Posted - 2013.12.18 13:26:00 - [18] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Beld Errmon wrote: The price of the ADS reflects its value on the battlefield, cheaper would be nice but you need to remember its the only tier 3 vehicle still in the game, best decision ccp ever made not taking them out cause normal dropships are still terrible at using their gunners to kill things. they do the same exact things as tanks but are slower and weak You know nothing Jon Snow. As for tank hunting.... for anything but a militia tank with a terrible driver, its almost mathematically impossible for an ADS to take down a tank solo, well maybe shield tanks can be destroyed outright but an armor tank can for the most part just soak it up, not something that bothers me honestly. tbh ads isn't good for anti-vehicles shields 1.shield recharge to fast for ship vs ship 2.i think there's a hit detection issues Ds vs tanks i shoot missles at them i see them blue shield but no dmg taken and no , no hardners are on its like the sniper blue shield bug hits but doesn't register dmg 3.like i said to every 1 all u need is a mlt rail with 2x dmg mod and u can 2~3 almost all tanks(unexpected of course and that's like what 90% of the time?) 4.myron with blueberrys don't work anymore i actually tried that and guess what since the ttk is stupidly fast none survive for than a few seconds, only back then was a Myron feared with scatter ion cannons,now its just "lolz a blaster on a Ds " and I'm just using this quote for all my opinion,it really isn't aiming at you lol
The Final Fantasy Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 15	Posted - 2013.12.18 13:35:00 - [19] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: The Final Fantasy wrote: All other vehicles got a isk reduction saw a guy post a fitting of a tank all proto cost him 180k my ass ship cost 500k and now they're not op a mlt rail can 1shot me,who would have thought ccp forgot to add stack penaltys on vehicles damage mods my tank costs 500k isk... 280k isk for my proto missiles... Anyway, at least you out of harms way and those stupid blaster madrugars... not really rails, forges, kamikaze pilots, really weird forge knock back positioning (like getting blast and instantly flipping upside down O_o I died once like that a mlt forge force my ship upside down to the point of no return :/


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