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Malkai Inos
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.12.17 20:35:00 -
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We need E-war in like two months ago.
Don't stop at webs. We could introduce a whole new level of weapon effects to our current arsenal.
Forges temporarily reduce a vehicles resistances or even create a visible weak point on impact that can be hit for greatly increased damage, even by light weapons.
Plasma cannons heat up the turret(s) or lower its/their RoF, making it a support weapon for tank v tank situations
Swarms engulf the vehicle in a smoke cloud, reducing the turret turning rate and signal strengh. Infantry could possibly speedtank/RE an HAV with this.
All these effects are capped, but can be stacked multiple times, so that the tanker can still disengage but once he got hit by for example several forges subsequently, his armor will be full of holes and an easy target, even for normal infantry.
You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
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Malkai Inos
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
1098
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Posted - 2013.12.17 20:58:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Cosgar wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Cosgar wrote:I agree, but don't just limit them to grenades. Equipment, passive modules that add effect when dealing damage, mines, and point-and-shoot equipment. It'd be a much more fun alternative to nerfing. Maybe even a module that is like damage mods, only adds a web effect instead of increasing damage. Exactly! That's...starting to sound a bit too broad. I think the grenade idea would work well because it requires skill on the part of the user to time the "detonation" properly to snag the vehicle. Imagine for a moment being able to "stun-lock" a vehicle with any AV weapon, especially Swarms. The idea of being able to do that with a weapon that is fire-and-forget just sets my teeth on edge. "Easy" fix. ECM stats.
All vehicles get their set of ecm resistances that lower/negate ECM effects based on the modules ECM bonus and, possibly damage potential of the supported weapon.
Add active and/or passive ECCM modules for vehicles and you now have the choice between maximum raw tank/gank or highest resistance against ECM.
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Malkai Inos
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
1098
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Posted - 2013.12.17 21:03:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:
What does ECM have to do with slowing down a vehicle? Or are you talking about making your vehicle immune to lock-ons?
I mean that the slowing down effect can be resisted with the right fitting choices. I am assuming webs to be a form of ECM for the sake of the argument.
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Malkai Inos
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
1098
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Posted - 2013.12.17 21:13:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:
What does ECM have to do with slowing down a vehicle? Or are you talking about making your vehicle immune to lock-ons?
I mean that the slowing down effect can be resisted with the right fitting choices. I am assuming webs to be a form of ECM for the sake of the argument. Okay, I think we need to slow down a little. I proposed a grenade because I think that is a tool that can be applied to our current mechanics without adjustment of any existing assets that will provide for better balance between infantry and vehicles without putting either one at an insurmountable disadvantage. I'm rather impressed with how many people are jumping in here, but we need to keep in mind that the focus is on balance we can obtain in the near-term without breaking anything else for the long-term that will require even more fixing. Yeah, i was already seeing the endless possibilities. Mea Culpa.
I just think that web grenades or mines, while a good solution to an acute problem, should be only part of a larger, more complex system that puts emphasis away from the currently comparatively shallow max tank/gank paradigm we see almost everywhere down the line. This thread just made me overly creative, that's all. 
Edit:Skihids' Post #22 explains nicely what I was up to.
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Malkai Inos
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
1098
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Posted - 2013.12.17 21:41:00 -
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And up it goes.
Request: Doge's Modified Stasis Mine.
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