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Commander Tzu
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Posted - 2013.12.17 19:49:00 -
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You can't win the argument logically, so now you resort to using complete fabrications. I have not seen or heard a single vehicle user asking for another AV nerf. Obvious troll is obvious. |
Commander Tzu
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Posted - 2013.12.17 19:50:00 -
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drake sadani wrote:TL;DR version ,
tank players say keep nerfing AV .
AV says boost us back so we don't get owned
tank players say use better tactics .
AV says maybe you should use better tactics tankers
tank players say we don't have to . we're tanks
while mommy AV and tanker daddy fight the little 514 gamers are not getting fed and are being neglected
Tankers don't use tactics, right. So why were so many AV complaining when they got killed by the infantry the tank was working with? |
Commander Tzu
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Posted - 2013.12.17 19:56:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Atiim, whoever told you they still want AV nerfed is a complete and utter dumbass.
don't even give credence to what they are saying. that person is a POS and the reason this game is not as good as it could be. i'm willing to bet even the majority of tankers would agree with this.
Only way he heard it from someone is if it came from one of the voices in his head, but I'm pretty sure he made it up; even they aren't crazy enough to say something like that. |
Commander Tzu
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Posted - 2013.12.17 20:08:00 -
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drake sadani wrote:Commander Tzu wrote:drake sadani wrote:TL;DR version ,
tank players say keep nerfing AV .
AV says boost us back so we don't get owned
tank players say use better tactics .
AV says maybe you should use better tactics tankers
tank players say we don't have to . we're tanks
while mommy AV and tanker daddy fight the little 514 gamers are not getting fed and are being neglected Tankers don't use tactics, right. So why were so many AV complaining when they got killed by the infantry the tank was working with? i am simply tanking a large post and making it bite sized for people who cannot read lots . personally i have seen tanks use tactics . but not often . now i have seen four sicas working in tandem with shield hardeners to grief MLT players . pretty sure the MLT guys left after that
TBH I saw a long post by Atiim and figured 90% was lies or total crap so I just read your helpful summary and responded to it as I would him =D. Anyway, I got completely ****** when I first started playing tanks in chromosome, I started with MLT and got killed by proto maddys/gunnis/AV and went negative for freakin ever until I got enough SP to really round out my fit. I stayed, and lots of other people did too. I agree the new player experience needs to be 1000x better, but we can't change the whole game to pander to the people who will quit as soon as they face an uneven team, which happens sometimes in every multiplayer PvP game. |
Commander Tzu
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Posted - 2013.12.17 20:12:00 -
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Dengar Skirata wrote:AV was over nerfed, just like the flaylock. Think about it. Flaylock is OP, so we nerf flaylock and then buff other weapons by giving them aim assist. Nerfing the flaylock would have been fine, and buffing other weapons would have been fine, but instead CCP did both, and now look at the flaylock. The same thing has happened to AV weapons. AV is OP, so we nerf it, and then buff vehicles. Nerfing AV would have been fine, and buffing vehicles would have been fine, but, once again, CCP overdid it, and look at AV vs vehicles now. In my opinion, the vehicles are almost balanced, but not quite yet. RIP flaylock RIP AV
Lol no offense but thats exactly what happened with Uprising, they nerfed tanks and then buffed AV so everything was ******. Honestly though wait for the speed changes tomorrow, without hardeners tanks are paper thin, when they run multi hardeners they have crap EHP and rep. So when they get slower: Tanks won't be able to get away as fast when their mods enter cooldown, and hardener tanks won't be able to get away from damage they are taking as fast so they will be whittled down to nothing. Unless you use a Forge gun, those things hurt like hell; I'm glad to see Heavies actually getting a role based on the fact they are supposed to be specialized AV. |
Commander Tzu
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Posted - 2013.12.17 20:39:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Yoma Carrim wrote:Where is the link to the tread calling for a swarm nerf? As a tanker I would very much like to rip these idiots a new one.
I should not be able to passive shield regen through a friken AV Volley @work, but will link when I get the chance.
So, basically you're just as useless at work as you are on the forums? |
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Posted - 2013.12.17 21:12:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Commander Tzu wrote:Atiim wrote:Yoma Carrim wrote:Where is the link to the tread calling for a swarm nerf? As a tanker I would very much like to rip these idiots a new one.
I should not be able to passive shield regen through a friken AV Volley @work, but will link when I get the chance. So, basically you're just as useless at work as you are on the forums? and you are?
Abso-*******-lutely. |
Commander Tzu
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Posted - 2013.12.17 23:12:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:
Is your reading comprehension that bad?
They're saying 'stop QQing because your swarms won't kill tanks! That's a forge's job!'
And that's it.
Neither mentions nerfing at all in either post.
(Unnecessary line break)
Guess OP was an utter fabrication after all? And who listens to Anmol anyway?
(BTW Spkr, most of us don't sacrifice infantry to have a competent tank - I've got a proto logi with a full rack of proto equips on top of my proto turret'ed tank.
This wasn't the only two times, as many other posts have actually said to nerf SLs to make it to where they can only kill LAVs. I linked those two because I am still fishing through the forums for the rest. Who should we listen to? I can pull up almost anything about what a LOLTank Brigadier said and you would probably say "Well who listens to him/her anyways. And stop with the unnecessary line breaks already! Why does everyone keep doing this.
So you give two examples of people NOT asking AV to be nerfed as evidence of all the other people asking for it? Makes total sense. /sarcasm
EDIT: Line breaks can be useful if you don't want everything you say to be one homogenous
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Commander Tzu
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Posted - 2013.12.17 23:33:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Commander Tzu wrote: So you give two examples of people NOT asking AV to be nerfed as evidence of all the other people asking for it? Makes total sense. /sarcasm
EDIT: Line breaks can be useful if you don't want everything you say to be one homogenous
blob.
Man, I haven't seen you since you lost that bet about me being not being a tanker. (I wasn't gonna give you pizza anyways lol) Along with that, I believe it's because your a tanker, but I just so happen to believe that my AV weapon only being able to take out LAVs is a NERF. Also, I said in the OP that this doesn't encompass everyone, but simply the radical tankers. Do you know how to read?
I didn't lose the bet, you never brought the pizza so it was null and void (I was totally willing to pay you too, I really wanted some Za!).
As far as not being able to read, I would just ask that you read up on the English language before you jump to that assumption. You were saying that certain group of people ("radical tankers") wanted Swarms to be nerfed yes? And then you gave two examples of where they ("radical tankers") supposedly said they should be nerfed. When people read the post and mentioned that the posters ("radical tankers") never said they wanted AV to be nerfed more you said that those are just two examples of the group of people ("radical tankers") asking for a nerf. So, to recap since I am sure you are already tired of all this reading, you cannot present evidence of people not asking for an AV nerf and then assert that it proves there is a group of people ("radical tankers") asking for one.
As you can, hopefully, clearly see, I have not once been speaking in regards to ALL tankers, just your idea of a group of "radicals". The fact that someone mentions something got nerfed doesn't mean they are asking for it to get nerfed again. And on that note, large blasters got nerfed too, I don't hear you crying about that.
LINE BREAK LEVEL OVER NINE THOUSAAAAAANDDD!!!!!
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Commander Tzu
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Posted - 2013.12.17 23:34:00 -
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Baal Omniscient wrote:Atiim wrote: On an additional note, can anyone for the life of me please tell my why anyone should use AV over a MLT HAV? I'll give 1m ISK to the first one who can actually come up with a good reason.
-HAND.
I play AV instead of militia tanks because..... honor. I WILL keep those tanks in check for as long as their OPness lasts for the sake of the newberries! I am their shield against oppression! I may not be able to save them in every gun fight, but I can at least keep the tanks off of their backs! Now then, that's my good reason. If you were meaning something else, you should have been more clear. 1m Iskies PLZ! PS: MLT AV v MLT Vehicles? LOLOLolOLololOLoolOLoLOloLLolOLOolOoLoOlOloOLoOlLOLOoOlOooLoLoLOOlooLoOL!!!!!!
OY! And I suppose all my rail tanking to keep their tanks in the garbage heap is for nothing?
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Commander Tzu
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Posted - 2013.12.19 18:42:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:Because most of the time the infantry aren't in the same squad with the tanker and the tanker doesn't have his voice activated in team chat.
Why be voiced in team with a bunch of randoms when you can be voiced in your squad with people you know . Seriously though, team chat is usually either empty because people are in squad chat or full of annoying people who don't help/listen/communicate anyway. |
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