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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.17 19:40:00 -
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And there you have it folks. They just won't stop will they?
Pilots have made it very obvious that they want AV removed from the game. They have already proven multiple times that they will stop at nothing until their precious vehicles can go 60/0 without trying.
AV has already been nerfed, and now they want to nerf AV weapons that fall under the Light Weapon category even further. You are not safe Swarm Launcher and Plasma Cannon Users. And I guarantee that it wouldn't be to far of a stretch to say that they will come for Forge Gun users in the near future as well.
They have also already stated how they believe that AV should be required to use teamwork, yet HAVs themselves shouldn't. And at the same time they try to justify that with reasons so idiotic that even a 7 year old child could disprove it if they tried long enough.
Remember when I said that if pilots ever got their wish, then PRO AV would be so worthless that nobody would ever want to use it over a Railgun? Remember when I said that if pilots ever got their wish, then DUST 514's matches would be determined by who has the most tanks on the field at the same time?
Well nobody listed, and here is the result of that. You have this POS build where everyone would rather use an HAV or go as far as to strap Explosives on their LAVs and kill themselves, then use Anti-Vehicle weapons for Anti-Vehicle purposes.
Do you want to play a game where the match is always decided by who has the most HAVs? Do you? If so, then by all means please do allow pilots to spew lies and BS everywhere about how AV is "fine".
And to those who say, AV is fine. Please post a link of you killing a pilot with an IQ greater than 5 while using Anti-Vehicle weaponry. I'd even pay AUR to see it.
If these pilots get there way with the second SL/PLC nerf, then I'm going to take a break. And no, you scrubs will not has my ISK. You don't even need it. That would go to my corp or KING CHECKMATE.
And to the non-AV infantry, I have all but one question. "How long will you allow Tanker's "Logic" to ruin the game for you(us)?
Also, I apologize in advance to the pilots who this does not encompass, as I am sure that this doesn't describe the ENTIRE community, as there is that small minority who actually want this game balanced.
On an additional note, can anyone for the life of me please tell my why anyone should use AV over a MLT HAV? I'll give 1m ISK to the first one who can actually come up with a good reason.
-HAND.
DUST 514 just went full COD.
Never go full COD.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.17 19:43:00 -
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Reserved.
DUST 514 just went full COD.
Never go full COD.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.17 20:35:00 -
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Yoma Carrim wrote:Where is the link to the tread calling for a swarm nerf? As a tanker I would very much like to rip these idiots a new one.
I should not be able to passive shield regen through a friken AV Volley @work, but will link when I get the chance.
DUST 514 just went full COD.
Never go full COD.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.17 22:42:00 -
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I know what you guys want to see, so here are the links.
These people want Swarm Launchers (and technically PLCs) nerfed to the point where they can only destroy LAVs.
Thread #1: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=129211
Thread #2: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=129835&find=unread
inb4 tankers saying "This seems like a good idea"
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Never go full COD.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.17 23:10:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:
Is your reading comprehension that bad?
They're saying 'stop QQing because your swarms won't kill tanks! That's a forge's job!'
And that's it.
Neither mentions nerfing at all in either post.
(Unnecessary line break)
Guess OP was an utter fabrication after all? And who listens to Anmol anyway?
(BTW Spkr, most of us don't sacrifice infantry to have a competent tank - I've got a proto logi with a full rack of proto equips on top of my proto turret'ed tank.
This wasn't the only two times, as many other posts have actually said to nerf SLs to make it to where they can only kill LAVs. I linked those two because I am still fishing through the forums for the rest.
Who should we listen to? I can pull up almost anything about what a LOLTank Brigadier said and you would probably say "Well who listens to him/her anyways.
And stop with the unnecessary line breaks already! Why does everyone keep doing this.
DUST 514 just went full COD.
Never go full COD.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.17 23:23:00 -
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Commander Tzu wrote: So you give two examples of people NOT asking AV to be nerfed as evidence of all the other people asking for it? Makes total sense. /sarcasm
EDIT: Line breaks can be useful if you don't want everything you say to be one homogenous
blob.
Man, I haven't seen you since you lost that bet about me being not being a tanker. (I wasn't gonna give you pizza anyways lol)
Along with that, I believe it's because your a tanker, but I just so happen to believe that my AV weapon only being able to take out LAVs is a NERF.
Also, I said in the OP that this doesn't encompass everyone, but simply the radical tankers. Do you know how to read?
DUST 514 just went full COD.
Never go full COD.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.18 02:37:00 -
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So many notifications, yet so little time.
Lets see how many posts I can reply too.
I'm betting 5 :D
DUST 514 just went full COD.
Never go full COD.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.18 02:39:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Atiim, I'll never understand why you are so outspoken on AV vs Tanks. You think tanks are OP? Use teamwork. Why Patrick57, why? Why must you defile the grave of this poor, poor horse.
Has it not received enough thrashings while living?
DUST 514 just went full COD.
Never go full COD.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.18 02:41:00 -
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I guess I overexaggerated the definition of nerf.
Apparently being weakened to the point of only being able to destroy LAVs is not considered a nerf.
If that's not a nerf, then I honestly don't know what is.
DUST 514 just went full COD.
Never go full COD.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.18 02:43:00 -
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Commander Tzu wrote: So, basically you're just as useless at work as you are on the forums?
DUST 514 just went full COD.
Never go full COD.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.18 02:44:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:Who said this? I am on the forums a lot maybe not as much as you Atiim nut I have not seen a single tanker request an AV nerf. I'm not on the forums that much.
DUST 514 just went full COD.
Never go full COD.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.18 03:12:00 -
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Korvin Lomont wrote: I am totally with you as I fought the same fight for quite some time now. But it seems tankers will only be happy when there is no more infantry on weapons :/.
TBQH, most of them won't be happy until AV is removed from the game.
Hence, why they want to make it to where SLs/PLCs can only kill LAVs. It's the perfect way to get SLs & PLCs removed without actually removing them, so why wouldn't they? Then they will go after the FG.
It's a tough battle, as you end up saying the exact same thing just to have them nitpick around what they know they won't be able to argue against. Heck, most of the points I've ever made have yet to receive a "good" or "solid" argument against.
But if somebody doesn't fight the battle, then pilots would ruin DUST 514 for everyone that doesn't want to drive a tank. Which is exactly why people like me, KING CHECKMATE, and Monkey Mac are here.
It's a real shame though. When pilots aren't trying to ruin the game for everyone, they are actually pretty nice people.
DUST 514 just went full COD.
Never go full COD.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.18 03:16:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Patrick57 wrote:Atiim, I'll never understand why you are so outspoken on AV vs Tanks. You think tanks are OP? Use teamwork. But he's a tankerrrrrr! He knows how tanks work!!!!! He's so good that he uses AV to destroy tanks instead of his own tank!!!!! What part of "I'm sick of being forced to drive a tank and i don't want to pilot them anymore" don't you understand?
Why can't you accept the fact that I am also a tanker? (pre 1.7)
I DON'T WANT TO BE FORCED TO USE A TANK AGAIN. GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK 180mm SKULL. I SHOULDN'T NOR SHOULD ANYONE, HAVE TO USE AN HAV TO DESTROY AN HAV.
DUST 514 just went full COD.
Never go full COD.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.18 03:18:00 -
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knight of 6 wrote:neither of the listed threads called for a nerf, OP FAILED TO DELIVER! even I have said that, and I stand by it. fail op, fail... Well that's good for you. I'm glad that you want Swarm Launchers to be removed.
And that picture. It just.... I don't evem know how to describe that.
Why must vehicle pilots try to ruin DUST 514 for everyone?
Do they really want to go 60/0 that badly?
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.18 03:26:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: I'm just pointing out that OP's examples utterly failed to illustrate his point.
I guess my flaw was that I assumed that making SLs only viable against LAVs would be considered as a nerf.
Oh, well then. Can't win every match.
Why must vehicle pilots try to ruin DUST 514 for everyone?
Do they really want to go 60/0 that badly?
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.18 03:34:00 -
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Flix Keptick wrote:You crazy?!? Who the fak asked for swarms to be nerfed even more? All this bullshit makes tankers like me that want actual balance (I.e: swarms are ******* **** right now) look bad It was referencing the people who want to make Swarm Launchers only viable against LAVs.
I may not be Merriam Webster, but I think that is encompassed under the definition of "nerf".
And it's also a great way to guarantee that nobody will ever use them.
A win/win for pilots.
Why must vehicle pilots try to ruin DUST 514 for everyone?
Do they really want to go 60/0 that badly?
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.18 03:39:00 -
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Flix Keptick wrote:Ok, but you're accusing the entire vehicle community... That's you falsifying information right there... Please edit Dude. Did you even read the last part of the OP?
If you didn't then here you go:
Atiim wrote: Also, I apologize in advance to the pilots who this does not encompass, as I am sure that this doesn't describe the ENTIRE community, as there is that small minority who actually want this game balanced.
Why must vehicle pilots try to ruin DUST 514 for everyone?
Do they really want to go 60/0 that badly?
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