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        |  Paran Tadec
 Imperfect Bastards
 
 1767
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.17 16:42:00 -
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 Av needs a bug back to 1.6 levels. Pretty sure the current tanks could handle it.
 
 Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro! | 
      
      
        |  Sgt Buttscratch
 
 1168
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.17 16:46:00 -
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 AV is fine
 
 I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas
Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans | 
      
      
        |  Jason Pearson
 
 3501
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.17 16:47:00 -
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 AV feels fine right now, don't need to change numbers, add more stuff.
 
 King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire. Buffing or Debuffing Vehicles or AV will never fix anything. | 
      
      
        |  Seymor Krelborn
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
 1621
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.17 16:49:00 -
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 Sgt Buttscratch wrote:AV is fine 
 no, it isn't... unless youre a tanker...
 
 youre a tanker aren't you?
 
 
 CCp's newest joke, making setting off your own remote explosives in FW FF... awesome job ccp. | 
      
      
        |  TheD1CK
 Dead Man's Game
 
 174
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.17 16:50:00 -
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 Yup ....
 so many guys are running HAV thinking they have skill
 please give us back the means to show them how to drive
 
 previous to this update, tanks were strategic , holding areas or pressing the opposition
 if a tanker over extended himself he died ...
 
 now we've got EZ tank514
 
 pull up, activate modules, shoot until victory .... there is no way for infantry to repel them
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        |  Paran Tadec
 Imperfect Bastards
 
 1773
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.17 16:50:00 -
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 Seymor Krelborn wrote:Sgt Buttscratch wrote:AV is fine no, it isn't... unless youre a tanker... youre a tanker aren't you? 
 Av is **** currently. Tanks could handle 1.6 av now. The way it is currently bad tankers don't get killed at all except by other tanks.
 
 Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro! | 
      
      
        |  TheD1CK
 Dead Man's Game
 
 174
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.17 16:52:00 -
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 AV is fine....
 
 a pity your brain cells seem to have died though
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        |  Obodiah Garro
 Tech Guard
 RISE of LEGION
 
 481
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.17 16:55:00 -
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 Sgt Buttscratch wrote:AV is fine 
 Just fell of my seat laughing at this bs
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        |  chase rowland
 The Enclave Syndicate
 Dark Taboo
 
 122
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.17 17:03:00 -
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 Paran Tadec wrote:Av needs a bug back to 1.6 levels. Pretty sure the current tanks could handle it. ar you on meth?
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        |  Obodiah Garro
 Tech Guard
 RISE of LEGION
 
 485
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.17 17:05:00 -
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 chase rowland wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Av needs a bug back to 1.6 levels. Pretty sure the current tanks could handle it. ar you on meth? 
 It makes sense, **** at this rate id want to see the SL buffed over 1.4 levels.
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        |  TheD1CK
 Dead Man's Game
 
 176
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.17 17:18:00 -
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 If 2 guys set out with decent AV nades, along with PLC/Swarm
 
 that should be enough to drop a HAV especially if he hangs around long enough for 5/6 AV nades
 
 think back to Battlefield 3 ...
 - one guy could rpg a tank in 3/4 shots solo if you hit the weak spots
 in dust it should be the same, if a HAV is too dumb to avoid AV he deserves to lose his tank
 
 also 3/4 RE placed on a tank, again if a HAV driver is dump enough to sit still while
 you cover him in RE, he should lose the tank
 
 If a HAV drives over a pile of PE he deserves to die as he could have looked first
 
 right now AV is hopeless
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        |  Obodiah Garro
 Tech Guard
 RISE of LEGION
 
 498
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.17 17:24:00 -
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 back to BF3 lolwut? In any case HAV are like race cars, when they take dmg they can teleport themselves out of the danger zone with zero risk.
 
 Not only are they nigh invincible to infrantry they can, at will, egresss tfaway from combat.
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        |  Beck Weathers
 Ghosts of Dawn
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 206
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.17 17:27:00 -
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 I get two shotted by proto Assult Forge guns in my Gunlogi, saying that it did 8600 damage to me, other than that being bugged damage or imposable it dosent mean i still dont get two shotted. Tower forge gunners can kill tanks all day still because there is few places to hide once your hardeners turn off.
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        |  TheD1CK
 Dead Man's Game
 
 176
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.17 17:30:00 -
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 Tanks is BF3 where similar to HAV in Dust before this update,
 they should be OP but once they leave safe zones they can be messed up, I dont know why they changed it
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        |  stlcarlos989
 SVER True Blood
 Public Disorder.
 
 561
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.17 17:30:00 -
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 Paran Tadec wrote:Av needs a bug back to 1.6 levels. Pretty sure the current tanks could handle it. I completely agree, but good luck finding a tanker who would say the same. To them having 5 tanks on each side in an ambush is perfectly acceptable.
 
 The only effective form of AV is other tanks, which ruins the game for those of us who prefer having a gun in our hands.
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        |  Vulpes Dolosus
 SVER True Blood
 Public Disorder.
 
 489
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.17 17:31:00 -
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 Keep the forge changes and swarm range and we're good.
 
 Dropship Specialist Kills- Incubus: 3; Pythons: 0; Militia: 26; Tanks: 10 | 
      
      
        |  Paran Tadec
 Imperfect Bastards
 
 1778
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.17 17:51:00 -
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 Change forge charge time back to 1.6. Buff swarm range to 300 m and damage to 300 dmg per missle.
 
 Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro! | 
      
      
        |  TheD1CK
 Dead Man's Game
 
 177
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.17 17:56:00 -
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 Forge needs to stay where it is now, as things stand it's the only AV weapon working
 
 Tank HP - dropped
 Swarm range - keep it low range for DS but double for HAV
 Plasma Cannon - more effective vehicle dmg
 AV nades - shouldn't have been touched
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        |  Eltra Ardell
 Goonfeet
 Top Men.
 
 240
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.17 17:57:00 -
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 AV is broken. Prototype AV weapons (forges, swarms, grenades) cannot reliably deal with a 70k ISK militia tank driven with 0 SP.
 
 Think about that.
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        |  The Attorney General
 
 1684
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.17 17:59:00 -
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 Forge needs its charge time reduced, Swarms could use either damage or range, but lets see what the speed changes do first.
 
 AV nades are good where they are.
 
 Buff the PLC and proxies.
 
 Mr. Hybrid Vayu. | 
      
      
        |  TheD1CK
 Dead Man's Game
 
 177
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.17 17:59:00 -
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 I know, I have been banned from FW due to me trying every trick in the book to reple tanks
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        |  Darken-Sol
 BIG BAD W0LVES
 
 869
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.17 18:04:00 -
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 I do Av and tanking. There was 4 tanks circling a cru and the whole enemy team was spawning Av. They were slaughtered. Pegasus asked me"is this wrong" I replied "ya, but ffuck em". They never stood a chance. The one guy that broke free chose to hack the objective instead of providing anuplink for his team. He lived a minute longer than everyone else.
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        |  Waruiko DUST
 G I A N T
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 148
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.17 18:19:00 -
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 They're easy to deal with in pubs at least. Plant 9+ REs on a vehicle and crash it into the side or back of a tank and the exploding truck sets off the REs killing the tank.
 
 If blood and sweat don't teach them perhaps time will | 
      
      
        |  Mobius Wyvern
 Guardian Solutions
 DARKSTAR ARMY
 
 4116
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.17 18:21:00 -
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 Seymor Krelborn wrote:Sgt Buttscratch wrote:AV is fine no, it isn't... unless youre a tanker... youre a tanker aren't you? I popped a well-fit Madrugar with Militia Swarms by waiting for his hardeners to go down?
 
 Are you waiting for their hardeners to drop?
 
 Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector | 
      
      
        |  Terram Nenokal
 Molon Labe.
 Public Disorder.
 
 269
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.17 18:21:00 -
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 I just want AV grenades to be slightly more powerful. Maybe somewhere between 1.6 and 1.7 balance. If I'm getting that close to a vehicle, I feel like I should be a little scarier to them if I opt to use grenades dedicated to destroying them.
 
 Maybe reduce the range a bit to compensate.
 
 Loving to hate and hating to love Dust 514 since May 2012 | 
      
      
        |  Takahiro Kashuken
 Red Star.
 EoN.
 
 1962
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.17 18:24:00 -
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 AV is fine
 
 Only thing that needs a buff is the IQ numbers of the players behind the trigger
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        |  Dexter307
 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
 
 666
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.17 18:56:00 -
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 AV didn't need a nerf
 I can pull out and militia tank and go 20 and 0 most of the time
 The only people saying AV should stay as it is are tankers who don't want to think, I know because I didn't have to think when I used a 80k isk tank
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        |  Her Nibs
 Pradox One
 Proficiency V.
 
 94
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.17 19:01:00 -
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 Sgt Buttscratch wrote:AV is fine Obviously you are not AV and never was.
 
 
 A man without a woman is a bachelor, A woman without a man is a GENIUS | 
      
      
        |  Her Nibs
 Pradox One
 Proficiency V.
 
 94
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.17 19:08:00 -
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 Mobius Wyvern wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:Sgt Buttscratch wrote:AV is fine no, it isn't... unless youre a tanker... youre a tanker aren't you? I popped a well-fit Madrugar with Militia Swarms by waiting for his hardeners to go down? Are you  waiting for their hardeners to drop? 
 Proto AV....all that time. ISK and SP to end up with a pea shooter. Fu^k CCP. I want my SP back and a bigger swarm launcher.
 When
 u can't lock onto anything without being on top of it........I know, give me the ability to throw AV grenades across the map. It would make as much sense as what CCP has done to tanks....................NOT. How rediculous does this game have to be to make them understand we just want EQUAL opportunity.
 
 A man without a woman is a bachelor, A woman without a man is a GENIUS | 
      
      
        |  Her Nibs
 Pradox One
 Proficiency V.
 
 94
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.17 19:10:00 -
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 Takahiro Kashuken wrote:AV is fine 
 Only thing that needs a buff is the IQ numbers of the players behind the trigger
 
 And to that I say FU my good fellow. My IQ is in the top 20 percentile and I know when things aren't fair and when some people haven't a clue what they are talking about.
 
 
 
 A man without a woman is a bachelor, A woman without a man is a GENIUS | 
      
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