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steadyhand amarr Scions of Athra 2106	Posted - 2013.12.17 20:26:00 - [31] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Obodiah Garro wrote: Signed PVP is just an inbalanced mess, the game is literally a crap eve skill tree to use equipment you cant afford unless your invested with PC. Give us a mode to make easy isk, maybe more than 8 guys will play the game. Fox Guide: DUST Economics 101, Not going Broke so play dust like a job. spend most of your gaming time NOT have fun or doing what you would like to do. or use real money in order to enjoy yourself. great guide really highlights everything thats wrong with dust. note GRIND means doing somthing that is unfun or unenjoyable. in order to enjoy later content. dust the GRIND is the content. ug im so ******* pissed off now i cant even type correctly just the thought of dust pisses me off "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 233	Posted - 2013.12.17 20:34:00 - [32] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: So play dust like a job, spend most of your gaming time NOT have fun or doing what you would like to do, or use real money in order to enjoy yourself. Did you read Fox's guide...? Because that isn't what he said. Fox Gaden wrote: Option 1, Only equip what you can afford to loose: First figure out what your average income per match is. It will probably be somewhere between 100,000 and 200,000 ISK depending on your skill and play style. Then figure out your average number of clone deaths per match. (If someone revives you with a Nanite Injector you do not loose your gear.) Then make sure your fits cost less than your average income divided by your average number of deaths. So, if you average 120,000 ISK per match and you die 10 times per match, you can afford to run fits up to 12,000 ISK. If you can reduce your average deaths per match to 5, then you can afford to run fits up to 24,000 ISK. TL;DR - He explains how to create a fit that won't cost you more than you spend on deaths per match. That's not grinding at all. That's being efficient. If I know I can afford 20,000 ISK per dropsuit then I'll make a fitting that is 15,000 ISK to restock and suddenly I'm making a profit. It's like he used basic arithmetic or something. His option 2 included grinding but that isn't the ONLY option. And yes, you can buy AUR if you are a terribad tryhard, but Dust takes all kinds, even the terribad tryhards. "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
steadyhand amarr Scions of Athra 2106	Posted - 2013.12.17 20:55:00 - [33] - Quote carry on fan boy dont let me stop you getting proto stomped all day while you try save up cash that the PC boys can earn in hour "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 234	Posted - 2013.12.17 20:59:00 - [34] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: carry on fan boy TIL reading comprehension and elementary school arithmetic skills make me a fan boy... Also, I'm not really having any problems with ISK at the moment, but that you for your kind words "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
steadyhand amarr Scions of Athra 2106	Posted - 2013.12.17 21:20:00 - [35] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: carry on fan boy TIL reading comprehension and elementary school arithmetic skills make me a fan boy... Also, I'm not really having any problems with ISK at the moment, but that you for your kind words na sorry i thought you could apply logic i will try again now im a bit calmer. what the points of unlocking anything above STD gear if its not cost effective for the player, this basicly means after 2-3 weeks of playing dust any action outside of repeating what you did for the first 2-3 weeks is punished. A normal FPS player wants to use the **** he spent MONTHS working towords and not suddenly find after 4 matches he is back to 0 GRINDing isk should not even be part of the game, you should gain isk though the nature course of playing the game and only lose isk though really screwing up or investing in next big thing. like how EvE players save up for their new ship that lets them earn isk at a faster rate. "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 241	Posted - 2013.12.17 21:35:00 - [36] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: what the points of unlocking anything above STD gear if its not cost effective for the player, this basically means after 2-3 weeks of playing dust any action outside of repeating what you did for the first 2-3 weeks is punished. First off, you can run fits that are mixtures of STD, ADV, and PRO gear and still not break the bank. My favorite fit right now is under 30,000 ISK and is half ADV, half STD. If you want to run PRO and you aren't ready for it and/or aren't running with a squad then you deserve to lose your ISK. steadyhand amarr wrote: A normal FPS player wants to use the ** he spent MONTHS working towards and not suddenly find after 4 matches he is back to 0 If you are completely broke after four matches you are doing it wrong and deserve to be broke. Find a fit that works with your play style, use cover better, roll with a squad, etc. steadyhand amarr wrote:** GRINDing isk should not even be part of the game, you should gain isk though the nature course of playing the game and only lose isk though really screwing up or investing in next big thing. like how EvE players save up for their new ship that lets them earn isk at a faster rate. It's funny you use Eve as an example. Eve Online's history is THICK with stories of people going broke over stupid mistakes. In Dust you are, in fact, stupid if you run fittings that are too expensive for you to keep stocked. "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
Mr CreepyPasta DUST University Ivy League 39	Posted - 2013.12.17 22:34:00 - [37] - Quote DUST is DUST Destiny is Destiny DUST evolves over time. Destiny is going to launch, have bugs, bungie throws out a few patch (I call 4-5) then DLC at about 40+USD and a hidden pay to win aspect to add to the 50+USD selling price. DUST is free to play with a practically none existant pay to get an edge for a limited time aspect. Destiny will thrive for about... 2 minimum and 6 years tops people will grow bored of the same thing and wont want to pay for new/better things and move on. DUST will continue to improve upon aspects of the game and will thrive for about.. 3 years minimum and 8 years tops people will grow bored and move on for a while then come back as another patch or update is launched. DUST and Destiny, Bungie and CCP two different companies, two different games, two different agendas. personal opinion DUST will thrive longer than Destiny and alot of other games because it keeps people coming back with each patch or update and there is no real advantage gained by spending hard earned cash.
Jillian Chastot Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 5	Posted - 2013.12.17 22:38:00 - [38] - Quote Surt gods end wrote: Player market will do nothing for this game. I get why those invested in eve want it. But for the FPS player base that have no desire to do anything in the eve part of things, it means very little. Game spot mentioned something in their review of dust 514 that rang true. Dust can't center this game just around that market. And hopefully that is not the ONLY eve-dust connection that will come. So will numbers climb once market is added? No. unless that's enough to get the eve players to jump in. Welcome to New Eden. You are part of eve if you like it or not.
Akdhar Saif Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 96	Posted - 2013.12.17 22:52:00 - [39] - Quote I want either a Rogue Drone or Sansha Cyborg Zombie Survival mode.
Jillian Chastot Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 5	Posted - 2013.12.17 22:55:00 - [40] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Yeah, I'd like some FPS mission running, it'd make sense now that we have Standings too inb4 dust incursions



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