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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2013.12.17 14:40:00 -
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This is sooo easy. Just don't give CCP any money until we have PvE. That's what I am doing. I bought my last set of boosters months ago. They will keep me going until mid-February and after that: no PvE? No money for CCP.
"I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2013.12.17 15:11:00 -
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calvin b wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBNdrJMwrkc
Welp CCP looks like you have until September 2014 (or whenever I can afford Destiny and a PS4, so probably this time next year) to create working PvE like this or I am out for good.
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2013.12.17 15:33:00 -
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Beren Hurin wrote:Challenge 1: Players would feel comfortable playing exclusively in PvE. This would mean that they would want to just consume the PvE content, and once they are done with that why would they stick around. Unless PvE is structured to also allow for some PvP then this 'consumption rate' would make development time in it not very efficient.
Require PvP missions to be completed in order to participate in PvE. I'm not sure the ratio, but for every 10 - 12 PvP battles you can request a PvE mission.
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2013.12.17 20:34:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:So play dust like a job, spend most of your gaming time NOT have fun or doing what you would like to do, or use real money in order to enjoy yourself.
Did you read Fox's guide...? Because that isn't what he said.
Fox Gaden wrote:Option 1, Only equip what you can afford to loose:
First figure out what your average income per match is. It will probably be somewhere between 100,000 and 200,000 ISK depending on your skill and play style.
Then figure out your average number of clone deaths per match. (If someone revives you with a Nanite Injector you do not loose your gear.)
Then make sure your fits cost less than your average income divided by your average number of deaths. So, if you average 120,000 ISK per match and you die 10 times per match, you can afford to run fits up to 12,000 ISK. If you can reduce your average deaths per match to 5, then you can afford to run fits up to 24,000 ISK.
TL;DR - He explains how to create a fit that won't cost you more than you spend on deaths per match. That's not grinding at all. That's being efficient. If I know I can afford 20,000 ISK per dropsuit then I'll make a fitting that is 15,000 ISK to restock and suddenly I'm making a profit. It's like he used basic arithmetic or something.
His option 2 included grinding but that isn't the ONLY option. And yes, you can buy AUR if you are a terribad tryhard, but Dust takes all kinds, even the terribad tryhards.
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Posted - 2013.12.17 20:59:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:carry on fan boy
 TIL reading comprehension and elementary school arithmetic skills make me a fan boy...
Also, I'm not really having any problems with ISK at the moment, but that you for your kind words 
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Posted - 2013.12.17 21:35:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:what the points of unlocking anything above STD gear if its not cost effective for the player, this basically means after 2-3 weeks of playing dust any action outside of repeating what you did for the first 2-3 weeks is punished.
First off, you can run fits that are mixtures of STD, ADV, and PRO gear and still not break the bank. My favorite fit right now is under 30,000 ISK and is half ADV, half STD. If you want to run PRO and you aren't ready for it and/or aren't running with a squad then you deserve to lose your ISK.
steadyhand amarr wrote:A normal FPS player wants to use the **** he spent MONTHS working towards and not suddenly find after 4 matches he is back to 0
If you are completely broke after four matches you are doing it wrong and deserve to be broke. Find a fit that works with your play style, use cover better, roll with a squad, etc.
steadyhand amarr wrote:GRINDing isk should not even be part of the game, you should gain isk though the nature course of playing the game and only lose isk though really screwing up or investing in next big thing. like how EvE players save up for their new ship that lets them earn isk at a faster rate.
It's funny you use Eve as an example. Eve Online's history is THICK with stories of people going broke over stupid mistakes. In Dust you are, in fact, stupid if you run fittings that are too expensive for you to keep stocked.
"I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
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