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calvin b
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Posted - 2013.12.17 14:19:00 -
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When I watched the trailer for Destiny and saw actual game play I asked myself why doesn't Dust have similar PvE.
Anyone want to answer this one? We really need PvE and if you watch the trailer imagine Dust like this but with us fighting different factions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBNdrJMwrkc
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calvin b
SCAVENGER'S DAUGHTER
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Posted - 2013.12.17 15:19:00 -
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Beren Hurin wrote:Challenge 1:
Players would feel comfortable playing exclusively in PvE. This would mean that they would want to just consume the PvE content, and once they are done with that why would they stick around. Unless PvE is structured to also allow for some PvP then this 'consumption rate' would make development time in it not very efficient.
Challenge 2:
The amount of content in the PvE side of the game would have to accommodate SP progression like PvP does. There would need to be entry level content that can be done in blueprint suits, then there would have to be content that maybe takes multiple squads with 4 HAVs and dropships etc and strong coordination with high skilled players. All the while, the rewards would have to be variable enough, but not totally random to make the significant risk worth the fight.
Challenge 3:
When your player base is as small as it is, making a new and enticing whole additional 'game mode' would divide the player base even more. More players in PvE means less players queing which likely ends up with more uneven matches. This results in worse player retention and a shrinking base. Additionally, if players spend a good early portion of their time getting SP through PvE, they wouldn't necessarily be skilled for PvP.
I believe the introduction of PvE is what we need. To answer your challenges I will do my best
1. If you integrated the PvE and the PvP in game mods this would make a very interesting game play. Imagine yourself in a leadership role in a corp controlling a certain area. Now the other players must make it through the environment and the end result would be an epic battle between them and your corp. This would allow newer players to gain strength in the environment area before moving on to the next step and that would be the new PC matches.
2. See answer above. As you progress in your role you will unlock role specific bonus's. For example you play Logi, after you skill up to say level 5 you get a bonus to your rep skills. As long as you stay faithful to your class you will grow. Now there is those who want to do all roles and that is fine. They will be limited to certain level's for they are not role specific.
3. If you introduce this new game play PvE. The player base will grow and this will solve this problem. You see PVP has been the main mode for so long, everyone thinks this is the way Dust is supposed to be. Its not, it is supposed to be so much more. We need to understand its supposed to be PvE and PvP mixed with EVE.
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calvin b
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Posted - 2013.12.17 15:30:00 -
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Beren Hurin wrote:A big chunk of PvE would be, "Does it come before or after a player market?"
If it is before a player market, then whatever its output is, would have to be somehow useful for doing more PvE and or PvP. The devs have said that they wouldn't want PvE to be required to be a grind for everyone in order to compete in PvP. If its ouput was just isk that wouldn't be very interesting as a reward. It would need something unique and worth risking costs similar to pub matches. There are some pretty long threads talking about these options so I wont bother.
If it came after a player market, then the way its rewards would be useful would be a little bit easier and doesn't need explanation beyond, "You would just sell what you find."
A market is a great thing and it is desperately needed as well. So what do we do until then. My patience is running low. I am a Beta Vet I have 30+ Million SP and I have more ISK than I need. I want more than going into battle and having to fight the same thing over and over. I know the maps, I know each weapon, and suit. I just want a change that will keep me here for another year.
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