If you can magically solve how Me selling Item X in station A magically appears in Station B where buyer Z in eve then we'd have market already... well that and UI work for console, eve market is something not for the faint of heart of a pure ds3 controller.

It isn't really digital though, because when we enter a battle on the eve side we're still in the same solar system we've always been in. You can tell by looking at your local channel - it never changes. When we die in battle things are removed from the items in our hangar in the solar system we're in.

Problem is, we're not all in the same solar system. When we trade the items will have to move. This was actually in the patch notes for something like uprising 1.1 or something like that...a long time ago.

That is exactly what I'm saying. If I fly in Eve to the solar system you're in when you talk in local, I can still see you there when you deploy into a battle. And I can talk to you as if you're still there. We're part of New Eden now but they haven't worked out how we're going to move around without space ships, so they kludged it by making us stay in one system all the time. The battles don't happen on the same server as Eve so it works from a technical perspective.

It's confusing and not the way you would expect it to be, but it gets the job done.

I assume the CRUs operate similarly to uplinks. Otherwise, there is no possible explanation for it being able to spew out all the mercs it does over the course of a match.

SD is harder to explain.


However, if we are able to create all of our gear using nanites, manufacturing becomes trivial. What are the Eve pilots going to produce? Nanites? Then how do they get the BPCs for our gear? Exchange a certain amount of nanites for a BPC? Then why bother with BPCs? Why not just sell nanite credits? Replace the entire market system with a nanite market so you only stock up on nanites and pay a nanite price for your gear as you spawn.

You're not getting it. On Tranquility, the server "we" are on...where we talk and everything...we are always in one location. We affect the battles in other systems but in the MMO side of things, where the economy is at, we never appear there. If I flew to a system you were fighting in I couldn't talk to you because you're not actually there. It's a quick hack to make the Eve / Dust integration work when things are only partially implemented.

Some day we will actually move around in New Eden and Dust will be the MMOFPS it has always meant to be. Until then our bodies in-game are locked into a single station in highsec and never move. There were patch notes ages ago that mentioned our gear now being aware of location, about the time that we merged with the live Eve server...which means our gear is in a physical location in Eve the same way that our characters are.

The server doesn't need to "take gear with you" when you go to a battle right now, it just deducts it from your inventory as needed. The whole thing is a lot more complex than you seem capable of realizing.

I'll repeat - Don't confuse lore explanations for how things work with the real mechanics in the code that actually make things work.

That idea fails when you consider salvage. How do I sell or trade salvage if everything we own is just "digital" when we "travel" in your scheme?

NOPE, gotta have the physical aspect at some point and CCP needs to fully integrate that soonGäó or things will get even more kludgey than they are now.

Everyone talks about the EVE to DUST market as if anyone in DUST has anything to sell anyone in EVE, and as if anyone in EVE would bother selling anything to anyone in DUST for prices that would be affordable for anyone in DUST

Basically, it's a pipe dream that's very very far off because it has no purpose.

We just need to be able to sell stuff to each other, and forget about EVE pilots.