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Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 222	Posted - 2013.12.17 13:58:00 - [1] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: LP Store before P2P Market? Updating FW to include an LP store is a whole helluva lot easier than the player-to-player market. Rynoceros wrote: Rifle parity before Dropsuit parity? Two new weapons are easier to roll out and test than a dozen new dropsuits. Rynoceros wrote: Vehicle/AV balance (attempted) without the full line of vehicles or Pilot suits (if they are still coming)? Pilot suits would just add another layer to vehicle balancing, something CCP probably doesn't want to have to account for right now. As far as adding more vehicles, why would they release MORE vehicles when the vehicles they have now are not working as intended. Rynoceros wrote: Restructuring Orbital/Precision/Tactical Strikes, but still using the same 2500 WP as when squads were only 4 players, and fewer ways to gain WP? ... okay yeah, this is stupid. OBs should probably cost another 500 - 750 WPs. Fair enough. Most of the above is just common sense. If you were a dev, why would/wouldn't you do the things CCP has done. It's in their best interests to make the game balanced and try to keep us happy. ... for some reason they don't like talking to us about what they want to do in the future, but I guess that is their prerogative. "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 222	Posted - 2013.12.17 14:36:00 - [2] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: I mean, I can believe they'd take the easy route, that's what they've done since day 1. You are adorable if you think developing a game is easy. You might be able to point out some shortsightedness on CCP's part, but some of that can be blamed on not knowing the FPS market. Rynoceros wrote: But this is a sign of mismanaged agendas, timelines, and just plain laziness. Either you are trolling (which is looking more and more likely) or you have no idea what goes into developing a game. Rynoceros wrote: OBs should be 5000 WP Why would you double the cost of an OB when they just increased the squad size by 50%? That is a huge jump in WP cost. You start with a small change then look at the effects of that change over the course of 1 - 3 months. If the change wasn't enough, you make another small change. That's how balancing works. "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 223	Posted - 2013.12.17 15:00:00 - [3] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: I didn't say it was easy, I said that these lazy pricks often take the easier route to come to a fairly compromised end. I know that productive work doesn't usually involve booze in the office on a regular basis, fanboi. Dust is a flawed game with some huge pieces missing and I'm not blind to that. I also know that CCP's way of doing things is slow and steady, always slow and steady. Make updates, monitor data that results from the updates, add new content, monitor data that results from the new content, make update... etc. etc. etc. They won't be rushed for you, or me, or anyone else. You either deal with it or leave. If you leave then I have an interesting high-risk, high-reward investment opportunity for your ISK while you are gone. I'd love to talk to you about. Rynoceros wrote: And, not only did add 50% more players to squads, they have added several new ways to gain WP. True. So we start with another 3000 WP OB's then see how OB's perform for a while. Knee-jerk reactions like "OB's are bad so double the cost of them" lead to all kinds of problems down the road. That is not the right way to balance things. Rynoceros wrote: But, if you enjoy and support this type of nonsense, have at it. All of the real players will be on Destiny soon enough and the rest of you can wallow in this filth. Destiny does have functional PvE and that is a HUGE draw for players, including myself. If Dust doesn't have PvE by the time Destiny releases and I have a PS4 (Q4 2014) then I will probably leave Dust behind. Honestly, I think we will have PvE by then, but I like having a contingency plan. "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 223	Posted - 2013.12.17 15:07:00 - [4] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: Why does the Market have to be completely tied to Eve for us to even begin to use it? One of Dust's draws is it's integration with Eve Online. CCP is banking on people getting interested in an FPS that is persistent and involves existing MMO universe filled with intrigue, greed, and rivalries. Creating a Dust market inside a bubble is pretty much nullifying the Eve + Dust link. Rynoceros wrote: Why not a Dust-only Market, with inventory sales and trading, with the Eve stuff coming in as a 3rd party retailer when they get it figured out? If I was CCP I wouldn't double my work unless I had to. Why create a Dust-only marketplace only to turn around a matter of months later to break it down and integrate it with Eve Online? Work smart, not hard. "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 224	Posted - 2013.12.17 15:25:00 - [5] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: They have delayed the Eve/Dust integration several times in several aspects of the game. At this point, the integration is nearly nonexistent. He says after 1.7 rolled out with an improved FW that shows Dust players how systems are being lost/gained in FW in Eve... the link is forming, but no it isn't happening overnight. It will start with FW and spread to other areas of Dust as each iteration is tested and verified as working. Also, what areas of Dust/Eve integration have been delayed exactly? I know we haven't seen much integration yet, but I haven't seen any integration pushed back either. Rynoceros wrote: Why not have that P2P market ready to sell back LP items, beforehand? Because that would in itself create an imbalance. People could then farm whatever the FotM weapon or dropsuit is then sell it for ludicrous amounts of money. The ISK would flow into the hands of whomever could win the most FW battles with that faction. There aren't enough ISK sinks in Dust to allow such a thing to happen. Rynoceros wrote: Because they just wanted to push something out to try to appease an increasingly disenfranchised, hostile player base instead of focusing on the basics - and have thrown out another failure. What are we talking about here? A tyrannical government neglecting it's citizens? Or a F2P FPS set in the future with laser guns and magic needles that bring you back to life? Seriously... it's just game why you have to be mad "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 225	Posted - 2013.12.17 15:41:00 - [6] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: Ever heard of Planetary Conquest? Isn't it currently in Dust? Acquiring a district in Dust provides bonuses to the alliance that the Dust corp is in, in Eve Online. I'm not sure what you are getting at... PC is happening right now. Districts are being attacked and defended, Eve Online are being coordinated to provide war barge strikes, etc. Was something promised in PC, release date for this feature was announced, then it was pushed back/canceled? If so, please let me what feature. "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 226	Posted - 2013.12.17 15:54:00 - [7] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: I'm done nitpicking this with you. (Actually, I'm just busy - I may rejoin this later) This is all well and good, but let's talk about your ISK. It's clear you plan on leaving Dust in the near future. During which time your ISK will not be put to use. I have an investment strategy that could double, or even triple, your ISK while you are away. It's important that you act now. "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 226	Posted - 2013.12.17 16:00:00 - [8] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: All ISK remaining at time of Biomass will be awarded to my favorite in-game allies. Thanks, for the totally legit offer though. But why put them through this absolute HORROR of a game?! I mean, PC isn't in game yet. Faction warfare hasn't been updated in ages. We haven't even gotten new weapons for two weeks. No no, I think it's best you left the ISK in the hands of a skilled investment broker. "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley

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