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Jacques Cayton II
Providence Guard Templis CALSF
436
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Posted - 2014.01.03 16:05:00 -
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Also if you work against them then stop arguing why neither is truly good. Because I believe in the state and my train of thought will not faulter
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
792
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Posted - 2014.01.03 16:48:00 -
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So sacrificing "just" a few million Gallenteans in favor of saving more Caldari is better, and for what reason exactly? The needs of the many don't always outweigh the needs of the few, and explaining all of its moral implications would take ages. Believe all you want, but senslessly shouting about how Gallente should are all corrupt and money grubbing bastards makes you sound ignorant and stupid, when Caldari in comparison have done ateocious acts as well.
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Dec. 31st
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Jacques Cayton II
Providence Guard Templis CALSF
436
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Posted - 2014.01.03 16:56:00 -
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You just don't understand. The needs of the many does outweigh the needs of the few. We Caldari live to make THE STATE better not ourselves. Even when someone trains or makes a new corporation it is for the State. I am not ignorant for my opinion on the Gallente for it is mine not yours. I am loyal to my people and fight for the people.
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
792
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Posted - 2014.01.03 17:17:00 -
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Why are Caldari more valuable as humans than Gallente then? Because Gallente government is worse? Because State is better than everything else and the perfect utopia of a society? Less than two years ago Tibus Heth was the leader of the State and had the majority backing, the cheering of the many quelled the concerns of the few. I could go on a ramble for many hours about the hierarchical and olligarchical nature of the Caldari society and its implications until the dawn of time.
My point is not saying the State is bad, my point is that the State is not perfect, and the Gallente are not the epitome of all things evil. Morality isn't binary, purely black and white. It's a spectrum, various shades of grey. Claiming it is anything else is a fallacy, which is why all Gallente are not all greedy bastards as you implied. That is my point.
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Dec. 31st
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Jacques Cayton II
Providence Guard Templis CALSF
436
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Posted - 2014.01.03 18:05:00 -
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I love how you defend the Gallente so gallantly but they are an evil. The people may not all be evil and I do know that, but the government is most definitely corrupt and the way they claim to fight for peace and freedom is definitely a tool they use for war and conquest. Now if you were against the Federation you'd agree.
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
793
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Posted - 2014.01.03 18:43:00 -
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So, instead of actually countering my arguments, which I backed up with actual facts and evidence, you ignore them completely and instead call me a fanboy and state the same fallacy again? Way to go on winning the debate.
If you didn't know, I have argued for the Caldari, and against the Gallente before, most specifically highlighting the entire Intaki issue the Gallente Federation is directly responsible of. I've even defended the Amarr and their faith, on several occasions. I have history to show that I am not just a defender of the Gallente, I'm the defender of common sense and reason, and the opposer of pointless chestbeating and zealotism.
Absolute loyalty without question is what I loathe, and it leads to nothing but tragedies. If admiral Yanala would have followed Heth without question, Caldari Prime would have been an inhospitable wasteland.
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Dec. 31st
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Jacques Cayton II
Providence Guard Templis CALSF
436
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Posted - 2014.01.03 20:52:00 -
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Well you have your beliefs and I have mine the State is in my heart and soul I wish to see it rise but with the Gallente threat of corruption I must take action. As I have said before I believe in the State I never said I agreed with Tibus Heth you put that out there. Yes I was in the invasion to take back our birthplace, but that was when I was with the wirykomi honor guard and still a mmortal. The Caldari have seen the error in their ways and are now stronger than ever. We will win this war. You will not faulter my decisions or my opinions.
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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medomai grey
WarRavens League of Infamy
398
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Posted - 2014.01.03 21:26:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:Why are Caldari more valuable as humans than Gallente then? Because Gallente government is worse? Because State is better than everything else and the perfect utopia of a society? Less than two years ago Tibus Heth was the leader of the State and had the majority backing, the cheering of the many quelled the concerns of the few. I could go on a ramble for many hours about the hierarchical and olligarchical nature of the Caldari society and its implications until the dawn of time.
My point is not saying the State is bad, my point is that the State is not perfect, and the Gallente are not the epitome of all things evil. Morality isn't binary, purely black and white. It's a spectrum, various shades of grey. Claiming it is anything else is a fallacy, which is why all Gallente are not all greedy bastards as you implied. That is my point. You are right, but Gallente are still more evil than Caldari. :P
Blatant Dust_514 recruiting in the silliest of places. :P
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Ku Shala
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
752
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Posted - 2014.01.13 17:25:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:Well you have your beliefs and I have mine the State is in my heart and soul I wish to see it rise but with the Gallente threat of corruption I must take action. As I have said before I believe in the State I never said I agreed with Tibus Heth you put that out there. Yes I was in the invasion to take back our birthplace, but that was when I was with the wirykomi honor guard and still a mmortal. The Caldari have seen the error in their ways and are now stronger than ever. We will win this war. You will not faulter my decisions or my opinions.
How can you say this when you work with a corporation that has Gallante soldiers and isn't truly loyal to the state, as powerfull as your corporation is check the loyalty of your members and ask whos side you re really on. Clean House if you want to call yourself a loyalist corp. I don't know why TEST backs you when you have Gallante scum spies in your corp.
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Apply today!
For the State
Caldari Loyalist
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Jacques Cayton II
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
511
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Posted - 2014.01.13 22:35:00 -
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Um I'm got rid of them from the alliance. And also Providence Guard only has loyalist if you're talking about state patriots yes they were untrue to their word. I'm taking a break and earning isk in PC atm but I stand firm on my beliefs. Don't ever slander Providence Guards name the corporation grows slowly only gaining support from loyalist. Shala your efforts at making a similar corp have failed from what I heard
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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Ku Shala
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
752
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Posted - 2014.01.13 22:57:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:Um I'm got rid of them from the alliance. And also Providence Guard only has loyalist if you're talking about state patriots yes they were untrue to their word. I'm taking a break and earning isk in PC atm but I stand firm on my beliefs. Don't ever slander Providence Guards name the corporation grows slowly only gaining support from loyalist. Shala your efforts at making a similar corp have failed from what I heard
Where did I say anything about State Patriots or Providence Gaurd? I don't see either of those names under yours. FA claims to support the State too yet many members fight for the Gallante. I have respect for PG and If your are taking a break to fund support for the Caldari then accept my apologies for jumping to premature conclusions.
OUKH is beginning to come together we ran into some over zelous mercenaries, gaining trust is difficult. We have only just begun FW as a corp with much success.
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Apply today!
For the State
Caldari Loyalist
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Jacques Cayton II
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
513
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Posted - 2014.01.13 23:01:00 -
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I was in Providence Guard when I said those things I recently changed corps and yes I realize fa is not loyal, do I like it no but I would like to run PC since rumor has it the lag is gone
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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Ku Shala
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
752
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Posted - 2014.01.13 23:07:00 -
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o7 Till we meet on a State war barge ( Glad you are truly Loyal) Good luck with your PC campaign
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Apply today!
For the State
Caldari Loyalist
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Jacques Cayton II
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
514
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Posted - 2014.01.14 03:18:00 -
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Ku Shala wrote:o7 Till we meet on a State war barge ( Glad you are truly Loyal) Good luck with your PC campaign o7
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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21yrOld Knight
Pradox One Proficiency V.
472
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Posted - 2014.01.14 22:50:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote: Knight you fight for the Gallente that is the fact of the matter. You also fight for the Minmatar. Their is no one nation you call home. If you were Caldari you would be exiled and shunned. I know for a fact we have played together since but I regret it and hate it. You have no honor or loyalty to nation or your God.
I do not fight for the gallente nor the matari! I do not fight for any of the big four in New Eden. I work for them, but I definitely do not fight for them. I have worked for the Federal Marines, Republic command, Imperial Guard and the State, but i have never fought for them. Working is different compared to fighting. Working is doing something for pay, fighting is working for what you believe in. Honor and Loyalty are fancy words for kissing ass.
Jacques Cayton II wrote:
I only help fellow Caldari loyalist you and your corp are not. You will never see a dime from Providence Guard.
You should be thankful that Pradox works for the caldari. Do you want me to change that? Do you want my corp to start killing your allies and friends of the state just because we can? I don't care about the money or the title of being loyal towards the state. I care about how you ignore the fact that my corp works for your faction. Especially when you squaded up with us. My corp spent isk on your fight. You better watch your tongue, because trust me it won't be that difficult to switch.
Dust bunny! I prefer the term meta-gaming bad a** with a slight hint of the person Samuel L. Jackson wanted to be.
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Jacques Cayton II
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
531
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Posted - 2014.01.14 23:25:00 -
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21yrOld Knight wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote: Knight you fight for the Gallente that is the fact of the matter. You also fight for the Minmatar. Their is no one nation you call home. If you were Caldari you would be exiled and shunned. I know for a fact we have played together since but I regret it and hate it. You have no honor or loyalty to nation or your God.
I do not fight for the gallente nor the matari! I do not fight for any of the big four in New Eden. I work for them, but I definitely do not fight for them. I have worked for the Federal Marines, Republic command, Imperial Guard and the State, but i have never fought for them. Working is different compared to fighting. Working is doing something for pay, fighting is working for what you believe in. Honor and Loyalty are fancy words for kissing ass. Jacques Cayton II wrote:
I only help fellow Caldari loyalist you and your corp are not. You will never see a dime from Providence Guard.
You should be thankful that Pradox works for the caldari. Do you want me to change that? Do you want my corp to start killing your allies and friends of the state just because we can? I don't care about the money or the title of being loyal towards the state. I care about how you ignore the fact that my corp works for your faction. Especially when you squaded up with us. My corp spent isk on your fight. You better watch your tongue, because trust me it won't be that difficult to switch. That was because of my friends from EB I really don't care about who you fight for but know this I don't care if you change sides I only care about the state and the ones who fight for the state.
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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sir ravenwing
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
28
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Posted - 2014.01.15 03:47:00 -
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I can respect you for being loyal to your homeland but what I can't respect is you being loyal to Caldari And if the gallente are evil, there is no word to describe the state Minmartar I respect them Gallente I respect them less and less every growing week Amarr I highly respect them Caldari the only time I would ever have the tinest bit of respect for them is they try to do something as dumb as blind loyality jobs even i , a person who vaules loyality knows who not to be loyal to but you lack that concept sometime you even forget common sense I say a fool and his life will soon part Or a more updated version let a fools die and keep walking Don't ask where I learned those
A sane man has limits while a insane man can do anything
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Yun Hee Ryeon
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
389
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Posted - 2014.01.15 06:20:00 -
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sir ravenwing wrote:I can respect you for being loyal to your homeland but what I can't respect is you being loyal to Caldari And if the gallente are evil, there is no word to describe the state Your words say more about your understanding than about the State's character, soldier.
It is understandable. Caldari and Gallente conduct their ways of life in very different manners. Each people has many good reasons for thinking and living as it does. Each's path seems to work for it.
Sad, that two functional ways of life should be so inimical to one another. |
Jacques Cayton II
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
533
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Posted - 2014.01.15 13:58:00 -
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We don't ask why we things. But if an order is unjust or dishonorable to you our anyone you can deny the order if you have proof. We uphold our corporations dignity and honor. We don't follow blindly unless we trust our leader. You can the trust of a Caldari he will remain loyal till you lose that trust. I will follow Wirykomi and The State for as long as I can and hopefully win this war one day
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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sir ravenwing
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
29
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Posted - 2014.01.17 21:29:00 -
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"This is senseless bloodsport, I say." Raven says twirling a round object in his hand "If we fight for a faction itself this war will stay stuck in it's track till the end of time, and being the merc fighting the senseless war is a fate worse than the most painful death"
I do not fear my enemies, I fear the damn blueberries
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Dravok Silverblood
Tight Crew
0
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Posted - 2014.02.07 13:15:00 -
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I fight for the Gallente. Sorry birth right mates.
Reasons
1. I wanted calidari salvage since i was a cal character. I didn't know the salvage was going to suck so bad tho.
2. I wanted free duv assault rifles prior to the Rail and combat rifle it was the best gun in my words. also blaster tanks HEHE
3. I lost an officer fit widow* in eve due to concord deciding to change the station engagement timer for high sec engagements from 15 min to 5 minuets. and not tell me........ thus i hung up my pilot suit and came to the dust. yeah its dirty down here and a little smelly, almost smells like how my ship cargo hold would after transporting slaves for the Amarrians. (cough cough)
DO I REGRET IT? YES BUT ONLY BECAUSE OF THE MOST OP WEAPON IN GAME THE KAALAKOTA RAIL (how nicely all the proto heavies fit it in ambush)
P.S. Don't wait for your clone to die in battle and get a new one. You can take a shower now. > Minmatar
My Widow ** (non pilots about 4 billion Isk ship with mods and so badass that it makes children have nightmares and and wet the bed. ya ... and it was shinny and cloaky) truth was testing it against my alt after just buying. I was tired of my black bird and big mistake. two years ago ccp denied reimbursement i quit. I didn't change the game session timer.
EVE WIDOW RANT CONT: Plus since the caldari missile nerf back in the day when the roids were red dots (before minmatar slaves painted them) the state has never recovered in PVP. well the falcon was close and got the nerf hammer. waiting for the rail to get nerf hammer because the state can't have anything good or gallante players cry and trick dumb un-educated slaves to fight there wars for them. They force the minmatar freed slaves to fly amarrian ships. because the duck tape and rims on there ships doesn't hold together at warp speed much less in a fight. Amarrians have the better tanks any educated person knows this. IE: get a heavy suit put a light weapon on it. If gallente's are so against slavery? THEN LET THE SLAVE DRONES GO. Just because there robots doesn't mean you can enslave them, Hippocrates. "Lt cmmd Data" you have anything/feelings to say about this? can you feel? caldari state was the only one smart enough to get away from the federations lies. If gallente federation hates the state so much stop shopping in JITA. THERE WOULD ONLY BE THREE RACES IF GALLENTE FEDERATION DIDN'T START THE RUMOR THAT MINMATAR WERE SLAVES. who took care of the minmatar people when the gallente federation was off making quafe? the ammarians did and for thousands of years. why because of there religion teaches to help the lesser minded. Other wise they would have all died off, i'm guessing. well if you can bet them might as well join them. Or at least make them win at something for once. EVE factional has been one sided for to long with caldari winning. or use to be haven't played for a long time (1-2.5 years time of T-3 ships) reason 3 above. |
Hawk-eye Occultus
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
21
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Posted - 2014.02.07 18:13:00 -
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Dravok Silverblood wrote:I fight for the Gallente. Sorry birth right mates.
Reasons
1. I wanted calidari salvage since i was a cal character. I didn't know the salvage was going to suck so bad tho.
2. I wanted free duv assault rifles prior to the Rail and combat rifle it was the best gun in my words. also blaster tanks HEHE
3. I lost an officer fit widow* in eve due to concord deciding to change the station engagement timer for high sec engagements from 15 min to 5 minuets. and not tell me........ thus i hung up my pilot suit and came to the dust. yeah its dirty down here and a little smelly, almost smells like how my ship cargo hold would after transporting slaves for the Amarrians. (cough cough)
DO I REGRET IT? YES BUT ONLY BECAUSE OF THE MOST OP WEAPON IN GAME THE KAALAKOTA RAIL (how nicely all the proto heavies fit it in ambush)
P.S. Don't wait for your clone to die in battle and get a new one. You can take a shower now. > Minmatar
My Widow ** (non pilots about 4 billion Isk ship with mods and so badass that it makes children have nightmares and and wet the bed. ya ... and it was shinny and cloaky) truth was testing it against my alt after just buying. I was tired of my black bird and big mistake. two years ago ccp denied reimbursement i quit. I didn't change the game session timer.
EVE WIDOW RANT CONT: Plus since the caldari missile nerf back in the day when the roids were red dots (before minmatar slaves painted them) the state has never recovered in PVP. well the falcon was close and got the nerf hammer. waiting for the rail to get nerf hammer because the state can't have anything good or gallante players cry and trick dumb un-educated slaves to fight there wars for them. They force the minmatar freed slaves to fly amarrian ships. because the duck tape and rims on there ships doesn't hold together at warp speed much less in a fight. Amarrians have the better tanks any educated person knows this. IE: get a heavy suit put a light weapon on it. If gallente's are so against slavery? THEN LET THE SLAVE DRONES GO. Just because there robots doesn't mean you can enslave them, Hippocrates. "Lt cmmd Data" you have anything/feelings to say about this? can you feel? caldari state was the only one smart enough to get away from the federations lies. If gallente federation hates the state so much stop shopping in JITA. THERE WOULD ONLY BE THREE RACES IF GALLENTE FEDERATION DIDN'T START THE RUMOR THAT MINMATAR WERE SLAVES. who took care of the minmatar people when the gallente federation was off making quafe? the ammarians did and for thousands of years. why because of there religion teaches to help the lesser minded. Other wise they would have all died off, i'm guessing. well if you can bet them might as well join them. Or at least make them win at something for once. EVE factional has been one sided for to long with caldari winning. or use to be haven't played for a long time (1-2.5 years time of T-3 ships) reason 3 above.
Dude... Are you O.K.?
D'ya need to see a doc or something?
Intelligence without ambition; is a bird without wings...
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Jacques Cayton II
Providence Guard Templis CALSF
603
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Posted - 2014.02.16 03:37:00 -
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21yrOld Knight wrote:Oh look another call to arms. Well then I am going to sign up right now. Yea right. If this message was true i wouldn't of been told to leave caldari hierarchy because Jacques Clayton II thought i was trying to get people to fight for the amarr. To ensure equal payment one must give a share of the payment before the job and after. I would gladly help fight for the caldari as long as you pay up. If you really cared for your country you would do more then a simple call to arms. Pathetic. I never said such a thing. You wanted money we denied. I'm looking for loyalists who fight not for meaningless isk you fool. I fight for the State and Her Allies, that means anyone willing to fight for the State without asking for a handout.
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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Skare-Krow
State Enforcers
11
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Posted - 2014.02.16 23:24:00 -
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medomai grey wrote: Funny how every link you list has nothing to do with actual suicide tactics. The Tea Maker Ceremony is ritual suicide that has to do with honor. No where in the Nouvelle Rouvenor page you cited does it say Caldari used suicide tactics to bomb the city. I take it the BS your spewing is from your own ass then. You called me an idiot and ask me to learn my own culture. I ask you to gain some actual reading comprehension.
considering that caldari culture has a strong sense of duty, honour and loyalty I would assume suicidal tactics would be perfectly reasonable whether it be holding out till the last man, suicide bombers to even a mass frontal assaults against a well entrenched position, if it would serve the state better than retreating or help protect it's citizens than it will be quite logical to assume this could be a common tactic although with everything there will always be exceptions.
A good soldier obeys without question. A good officer commands without doubt.
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Skare-Krow
State Enforcers
11
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Posted - 2014.02.16 23:26:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:21yrOld Knight wrote:Oh look another call to arms. Well then I am going to sign up right now. Yea right. If this message was true i wouldn't of been told to leave caldari hierarchy because Jacques Clayton II thought i was trying to get people to fight for the amarr. To ensure equal payment one must give a share of the payment before the job and after. I would gladly help fight for the caldari as long as you pay up. If you really cared for your country you would do more then a simple call to arms. Pathetic. I never said such a thing. You wanted money we denied. I'm looking for loyalists who fight not for meaningless isk you fool. I fight for the State and Her Allies, that means anyone willing to fight for the State without asking for a handout.
Jacques Cayton II you have my support and the full support of my tiny corporation not that it will do much good
A good soldier obeys without question. A good officer commands without doubt.
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baniel bj
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.02.26 05:45:00 -
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Dravok Silverblood wrote:I fight for the Gallente. Sorry birth right mates.
Reasons
1. I wanted calidari salvage since i was a cal character. I didn't know the salvage was going to suck so bad tho.
2. I wanted free duv assault rifles prior to the Rail and combat rifle it was the best gun in my words. also blaster tanks HEHE
3. I lost an officer fit widow* in eve due to concord deciding to change the station engagement timer for high sec engagements from 15 min to 5 minuets. and not tell me........ thus i hung up my pilot suit and came to the dust. yeah its dirty down here and a little smelly, almost smells like how my ship cargo hold would after transporting slaves for the Amarrians. (cough cough)
DO I REGRET IT? YES BUT ONLY BECAUSE OF THE MOST OP WEAPON IN GAME THE KAALAKOTA RAIL (how nicely all the proto heavies fit it in ambush)
P.S. Don't wait for your clone to die in battle and get a new one. You can take a shower now. > Minmatar
My Widow ** (non pilots about 4 billion Isk ship with mods and so badass that it makes children have nightmares and and wet the bed. ya ... and it was shinny and cloaky) truth was testing it against my alt after just buying. I was tired of my black bird and big mistake. two years ago ccp denied reimbursement i quit. I didn't change the game session timer.
EVE WIDOW RANT CONT: Plus since the caldari missile nerf back in the day when the roids were red dots (before minmatar slaves painted them) the state has never recovered in PVP. well the falcon was close and got the nerf hammer. waiting for the rail to get nerf hammer because the state can't have anything good or gallante players cry and trick dumb un-educated slaves to fight there wars for them. They force the minmatar freed slaves to fly amarrian ships. because the duck tape and rims on there ships doesn't hold together at warp speed much less in a fight. Amarrians have the better tanks any educated person knows this. IE: get a heavy suit put a light weapon on it. If gallente's are so against slavery? THEN LET THE SLAVE DRONES GO. Just because there robots doesn't mean you can enslave them, Hippocrates. "Lt cmmd Data" you have anything/feelings to say about this? can you feel? caldari state was the only one smart enough to get away from the federations lies. If gallente federation hates the state so much stop shopping in JITA. THERE WOULD ONLY BE THREE RACES IF GALLENTE FEDERATION DIDN'T START THE RUMOR THAT MINMATAR WERE SLAVES. who took care of the minmatar people when the gallente federation was off making quafe? the ammarians did and for thousands of years. why because of there religion teaches to help the lesser minded. Other wise they would have all died off, i'm guessing. well if you can bet them might as well join them. Or at least make them win at something for once. EVE factional has been one sided for to long with caldari winning. or use to be haven't played for a long time (1-2.5 years time of T-3 ships) reason 3 above.
You are a traior to the caldari state , fighting for worth less gallente i fight for Caldari no matter anything that comes up but go on fight for the scum gallente all you want they will never be as good caldari. |
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