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medomai grey wrote:

Galm Fae wrote:

I'm insulting you because you're thick, Grey-haan. If someone'd take the time to clearly rationalize with me like other members in this summit like Denak and Ryeon can do then maybe... Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe I could take you seriously. But as of now your just a dense child. "Poor debate tactics" indeed. You want proper debate tactics? Then you need to come forward with taglines, contentions, cards, quotes, citations, refutation, references... If you are going to use proper debate as something you think you have on your side then go ahead and do it rookie. I've had to fill out after-action reports and report to mast on more then one occasion. I have the ability to lay out arguments (which by the way, if you are going by proper debate then I've already beat you.)

I don't do that because I don't have an ******* that can turn coal into diamonds, nor the time in my life to dedicate to some worthless Caldari rookie on GalNet that wouldn't even appreciate it if I did. And frankly soldier? I wonder if you suffer from a perfectly treatable case of autism.

((I'm a hothead Civre and I can play that role well. Really, just stop trying.))

More insults and redirecting away from the debate topic where you failed to prove anything. Can't say I'm not surprised.

*medomai grey sarcastically claps*

((I agree with your OCC argument. You should have made that argument in character. Sad

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Edit: ((Sorry, I started the write up before you guys posted a cease fire. Please ignore.))

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Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard Templis CALSF 367	Posted - 2013.12.28 21:48:00 - [31] - Quote And where are we supposed to find these members? They're isn't a big crowd joining dust these days everyone already has there plot of ground it's set in stone for now they need to buff shields HP just a tad to compete with armor We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 5296	Posted - 2013.12.28 23:17:00 - [32] - Quote Dagger-Two wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: Dagger-Two wrote: Sawdeth wrote: We got pilots policing our skies. And they make such pretty auroras when we blow them up. Talos Alomar wrote: Caldari FW, now with 100% more TEST! Lord knows they need it. We've definitely proven time and time again that without the help of large groups of capsuleers from 0.0 alliances, the Caldari militia is pretty hopeless. Like earlier this year when they didn't hold a single system in the warzone. Good times And now they own close to all of them hmm My point exactly! Have to outnumber us 4 to 1 to win. Eventually TEST will get bored and leave you, and we will swiftly reclaim the systems. In the meantime, you should find mercenaries more dedicated to the cause to fight on the ground, because the one's you have now seem to be lacking. ((But don't pretend like that means anything the Dust side players base for Gall outnumbers the Caldari and the Minmatar outnumber the Amarr....and yet people are rolling around and talking like it requires skill in Dust having numbers on your side is just one aspect of FW that you HTFU about, or cry and leave)) To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 3010	Posted - 2013.12.29 03:17:00 - [33] - Quote Ha Ha! I needed a good laugh today. Who dares fight the Federation will be branded an enemy of the Gallante people and the representative democracy we stand for. Swing first my enemies, for it shall be the only strike you shall be allowed. My alts: GeneralJohnRipper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior.
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard Templis CALSF 374	Posted - 2013.12.29 04:42:00 - [34] - Quote Brand me an enemy of your federation for I am Caldari and will remain Caldari till my last life. You cannot stop the Caldari way. The four winds will guide us and we will fight with honor and dignity. I fight for the corporation that raised me, the mighty Wirykomi corporation, I fight for my people, and I fight for the State! Glory to the State! We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Saya Aznable Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.12.29 05:39:00 - [35] - Quote Excuse me elder ones. I may be but a pup around these parts but I could offer my services to the homeland. To fight and die for the glory of the nation is what we are born for yes?
Timothy Reaper WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 641	Posted - 2013.12.30 06:53:00 - [36] - Quote I don't give a flying fart about ideals. I'll fight for the Caldari when they put some Thale's on the market. Until then, I'm buying armor vehicles from the Gallente store. Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. Mark Twain
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 170	Posted - 2013.12.30 16:37:00 - [37] - Quote Saya Aznable wrote: Excuse me elder ones. I may be but a pup around these parts but I could offer my services to the homeland. To fight and die for the glory of the nation is what we are born for yes? Why of course! Now here, strap this bomb on and run towards the nearest Gallente outpost. *In the moment when I truly understand my enemy, understand him well enough to defeat him, then I also love him.*
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard Templis CALSF 402	Posted - 2013.12.31 23:26:00 - [38] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: Saya Aznable wrote: Excuse me elder ones. I may be but a pup around these parts but I could offer my services to the homeland. To fight and die for the glory of the nation is what we are born for yes? Why of course! Now here, strap this bomb on and run towards the nearest Gallente outpost. Now even though we Caldari have been known to partake in suicidal acts to bring down are enemies I'd brather take them down using a rail machine gun ( if only ccp would put it ingame) We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
medomai grey WarRavens League of Infamy 396	Posted - 2014.01.02 02:25:00 - [39] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: Galm Fae wrote: Saya Aznable wrote: Excuse me elder ones. I may be but a pup around these parts but I could offer my services to the homeland. To fight and die for the glory of the nation is what we are born for yes? Why of course! Now here, strap this bomb on and run towards the nearest Gallente outpost. Now even though we Caldari have been known to partake in suicidal acts to bring down are enemies I'd brather take them down using a rail machine gun ( if only ccp would put it ingame) Pardon my ignorance, but Caldari are known to participate in suicidal acts? Whose ass did you collect that BS from? I'll fight for the State again when those cheep mercs the State keeps hiring learn situational awareness, tactics, how to aim, etc... I am so sick of checking my surroundings only to find that all the blue-tards are shitting themselves in the safety of redline. Blatant Dust_514 recruiting in the silliest of places. :P
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard Templis CALSF 414	Posted - 2014.01.02 02:32:00 - [40] - Quote medomai grey wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: Galm Fae wrote: Saya Aznable wrote: Excuse me elder ones. I may be but a pup around these parts but I could offer my services to the homeland. To fight and die for the glory of the nation is what we are born for yes? Why of course! Now here, strap this bomb on and run towards the nearest Gallente outpost. Now even though we Caldari have been known to partake in suicidal acts to bring down are enemies I'd brather take them down using a rail machine gun ( if only ccp would put it ingame) Pardon my ignorance, but Caldari are known to participate in suicidal acts? Whose ass did you collect that BS from? I'll fight for the State again when those cheep mercs the State keeps hiring learn situational awareness, tactics, how to aim, etc... I am so sick of checking my surroundings only to find that all the blue-tards are shitting themselves in the safety of redline. Um history? You know when the Gallente took our homeworld admiral Yakiya Tovil-Toba crashed his ship to save Caldari lives do you need another example We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals

medomai grey WarRavens League of Infamy 398	Posted - 2014.01.03 03:14:00 - [41] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: Um history? You know when the Gallente took our homeworld admiral Yakiya Tovil-Toba crashed his ship to save Caldari lives do you need another example So because one of the State's greatest heroes went on a suicide mission to buy time for Caldari civilians to escape the gallente bombardment of Caldari Prime, suicide tactics are a Caldari staple? You know, I think your going to need to give more than 1 example to prove that suicide tactics are common for Caldari. Blatant Dust_514 recruiting in the silliest of places. :P
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 205	Posted - 2014.01.03 03:23:00 - [42] - Quote medomai grey wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: Um history? You know when the Gallente took our homeworld admiral Yakiya Tovil-Toba crashed his ship to save Caldari lives do you need another example So because one of the State's greatest heroes went on a suicide mission to buy time for Caldari civilians to escape the gallente bombardment of Caldari Prime, suicide tactics are a Caldari staple? You know, I think your going to need to give more than 1 example to prove that suicide tactics are common for Caldari. Dude... Learn your own culture. Honestly baka, look at any ijeska after a simple net search and you'll find plenty of examples. I mean... This isn't even mentioning the suicide strikes by the Dragonaurs on Nouvelle Rouvenor. Read a book! *My head's in heaven my soles are in hell.*
medomai grey WarRavens League of Infamy 398	Posted - 2014.01.03 03:36:00 - [43] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: Dude... Learn your own culture. Honestly baka, look at any ijeska after a simple net search and you'll find plenty of examples. I mean... This isn't even mentioning the suicide strikes by the Dragonaurs on Nouvelle Rouvenor. Read a book! Funny how every link you list has nothing to do with actual suicide tactics. The Tea Maker Ceremony is ritual suicide that has to do with honor. No where in the Nouvelle Rouvenor page you cited does it say Caldari used suicide tactics to bomb the city. I take it the BS your spewing is from your own ass then. You called me an idiot and ask me to learn my own culture. I ask you to gain some actual reading comprehension. Blatant Dust_514 recruiting in the silliest of places. :P
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard Templis CALSF 429	Posted - 2014.01.03 04:16:00 - [44] - Quote Face palm We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 205	Posted - 2014.01.03 04:20:00 - [45] - Quote Oh really? Because your exact words were suicidal acts. medomai grey wrote: Pardon my ignorance, but Caldari are known to participate in suicidal acts? You only narrowed it to suicidal tactics after we'd already shown you how much of an idiot you are. Seriously soldier, stand down. I'm not a guy you want to pick a fight with, so I'm willing to just let this whole thing slide as long as you stop talking. EDIT: ((If your looking for a specific instance of Caldari suicide attacks you won't find much outside the terrorist attacks by the Templis Dragonaurs by the way. From a historical standpoint however the Caldari are often seen as a New Eden counterpart to Industrial Japan in WWII, and that translates a lot into tactics. The act of suicide ganking is already a common practice among capsuleers and I doubt a hardline Dragonaur these days would be against blowing themselves up if that means little to no personal risk to themselves, being immortal and whatnot. I'm here now, posting OOC, so I can rationally explain this to you without shouting. I'll delete this shortly.)) *My head's in heaven my soles are in hell.*
medomai grey WarRavens League of Infamy 398	Posted - 2014.01.03 04:33:00 - [46] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: Oh really? Because your exact words were suicidal acts. medomai grey wrote: Pardon my ignorance, but Caldari are known to participate in suicidal acts? You only narrowed it to suicidal tactics after we'd already shown you how much of an idiot you are. Seriously soldier, stand down. I'm not a guy you want to pick a fight with, so I'm willing to just let this whole thing slide as long as you stop talking. You mean my statement which was in response to this: Jacques Cayton II wrote: Now even though we Caldari have been known to partake in suicidal acts to bring down are enemies I'd brather take them down using a rail machine gun ( if only ccp would put it ingame) So besides failing to taking my words out of context and hurling insults, can you actually prove the underlined statement above or would you like to continue using poor debate tactics that only stupid people have to resort to? Edit: ((That was a reasonable argument, don't delete it! Although it refers to immortals and a specific group of Caldari, its been your best argument yet. Don't delete it! )) Blatant Dust_514 recruiting in the silliest of places. :P
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 205	Posted - 2014.01.03 04:43:00 - [47] - Quote medomai grey wrote: Galm Fae wrote: Oh really? Because your exact words were suicidal acts. medomai grey wrote: Pardon my ignorance, but Caldari are known to participate in suicidal acts? You only narrowed it to suicidal tactics after we'd already shown you how much of an idiot you are. Seriously soldier, stand down. I'm not a guy you want to pick a fight with, so I'm willing to just let this whole thing slide as long as you stop talking. You mean my statement which was in response to this: Jacques Cayton II wrote: Now even though we Caldari have been known to partake in suicidal acts to bring down are enemies I'd brather take them down using a rail machine gun ( if only ccp would put it ingame) So besides failing to take my words out of context and hurling insults, can you actually prove the underlined statement above or would you like to continue using poor debate tactics that only stupid people have to resort to? I'm insulting you because you're thick, Grey-haan. If someone'd take the time to clearly rationalize with me like other members in this summit like Denak and Ryeon can do then maybe... Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe I could take you seriously. But as of now your just a dense child. "Poor debate tactics" indeed. You want proper debate tactics? Then you need to come forward with taglines, contentions, cards, quotes, citations, refutation, references... If you are going to use proper debate as something you think you have on your side then go ahead and do it rookie. I've had to fill out after-action reports and report to mast on more then one occasion. I have the ability to lay out arguments (which by the way, if you are going by proper debate then I've already beat you.) I don't do that because I don't have an ***** that can turn coal into diamonds, nor the time in my life to dedicate to some worthless Caldari rookie on GalNet that wouldn't even appreciate it if I did. And frankly soldier? I wonder if you suffer from a perfectly treatable case of autism. ((I'm a hothead Civre and I can play that role well. Really, just stop trying.)) My head's in heaven my soles are in hell.**
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard Templis CALSF 431	Posted - 2014.01.03 04:51:00 - [48] - Quote Calm down brothers we know who the real enemy is. The Caldari have many traditions and are known as many things but we are honorful. The way will guide you. We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 205	Posted - 2014.01.03 04:56:00 - [49] - Quote He's right. Last thing we need right now is to be divided, so lets just... Drop it, okay? Even if you don't I will take the initiative and end this by not replying. The topic was totally irrelevant to the thread anyway. The whole point here is that we need to unite, not put each other down. *My head's in heaven my soles are in hell.*
medomai grey WarRavens League of Infamy 398	Posted - 2014.01.03 05:04:00 - [50] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: I'm insulting you because you're thick, Grey-haan. If someone'd take the time to clearly rationalize with me like other members in this summit like Denak and Ryeon can do then maybe... Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe I could take you seriously. But as of now your just a dense child. "Poor debate tactics" indeed. You want proper debate tactics? Then you need to come forward with taglines, contentions, cards, quotes, citations, refutation, references... If you are going to use proper debate as something you think you have on your side then go ahead and do it rookie. I've had to fill out after-action reports and report to mast on more then one occasion. I have the ability to lay out arguments (which by the way, if you are going by proper debate then I've already beat you.) I don't do that because I don't have an ******* that can turn coal into diamonds, nor the time in my life to dedicate to some worthless Caldari rookie on GalNet that wouldn't even appreciate it if I did. And frankly soldier? I wonder if you suffer from a perfectly treatable case of autism. ((I'm a hothead Civre and I can play that role well. Really, just stop trying.)) More insults and redirecting away from the debate topic where you failed to prove anything. Can't say I'm not surprised. medomai grey sarcastically claps ((I agree with your OCC argument. You should have made that argument in character.)) Edit: ((Sorry, I started the write up before you guys posted a cease fire. Please ignore.)) Blatant Dust_514 recruiting in the silliest of places. :P

Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 205	Posted - 2014.01.03 05:09:00 - [51] - Quote medomai grey wrote: Galm Fae wrote: I'm insulting you because you're thick, Grey-haan. If someone'd take the time to clearly rationalize with me like other members in this summit like Denak and Ryeon can do then maybe... Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe I could take you seriously. But as of now your just a dense child. "Poor debate tactics" indeed. You want proper debate tactics? Then you need to come forward with taglines, contentions, cards, quotes, citations, refutation, references... If you are going to use proper debate as something you think you have on your side then go ahead and do it rookie. I've had to fill out after-action reports and report to mast on more then one occasion. I have the ability to lay out arguments (which by the way, if you are going by proper debate then I've already beat you.) I don't do that because I don't have an ******* that can turn coal into diamonds, nor the time in my life to dedicate to some worthless Caldari rookie on GalNet that wouldn't even appreciate it if I did. And frankly soldier? I wonder if you suffer from a perfectly treatable case of autism. ((I'm a hothead Civre and I can play that role well. Really, just stop trying.)) More insults and redirecting away from the debate topic where you failed to prove anything. Can't say I'm not surprised. medomai grey sarcastically claps ((I agree with your OCC argument. You should have made that argument in character.)) Edit: ((Sorry, I started the write up before you guys posted a cease fire. Please ignore.)) ((Honestly, don't worry about it. A lot of times this type of miscommunication happens. I'd rather breach the rules and try to make an OOC case then make you think I was being a jerk and have you not learn anything. Thanks for being a good sport, and sorry I got a bit mean. :) )) *My head's in heaven my soles are in hell.*
Orin Zumari Providence Guard Templis CALSF 0	Posted - 2014.01.03 11:40:00 - [52] - Quote The Caldari people have always had to fight for every bit of our freedom. The Gallente Federation has stolen much from us, but they cannot steal our spirit. Though a people without a home, the Caldari will rise and retake what is rightfully ours. So long as my lungs breathe air, I shall be fuel to the spirit.
Denak Kalamari Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 792	Posted - 2014.01.03 11:48:00 - [53] - Quote Orin Zumari wrote: The Caldari people have always had to fight for every bit of our freedom. The Gallente Federation has stolen much from us, but they cannot steal our spirit. Though a people without a home, the Caldari will rise and retake what is rightfully ours. So long as my lungs breathe air, I shall be fuel to the spirit. Last I checked you had a planet named after you, which is in Caldari control. Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Dec. 31st
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard Templis CALSF 436	Posted - 2014.01.03 13:25:00 - [54] - Quote Denak Kalamari wrote: Orin Zumari wrote: The Caldari people have always had to fight for every bit of our freedom. The Gallente Federation has stolen much from us, but they cannot steal our spirit. Though a people without a home, the Caldari will rise and retake what is rightfully ours. So long as my lungs breathe air, I shall be fuel to the spirit. Last I checked you had a planet named after you, which is in Caldari control. We do own it but your people still want it for their greedy hands we only wish to keep our land and protect it. (( and yet I still wouldn't mind taking your home from you like you took ours just for revenge of course)) We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Leithe Askarii Intara Direct Action Caldari State 3	Posted - 2014.01.03 13:37:00 - [55] - Quote Orin Zumari wrote: The Caldari people have always had to fight for every bit of our freedom. The Gallente Federation has stolen much from us, but they cannot steal our spirit. Though a people without a home, the Caldari will rise and retake what is rightfully ours. So long as my lungs breathe air, I shall be fuel to the spirit. What does it matter what air we breath and where, who breathes it or why? All for some bloody rock in the middle of space......you all want to die for it? Be my guests, better you people than me.....with all that nobility bullshit. Home is a small dark room with a full dosing of Crystal Egg, and maybe a bit of Drop.....hardly something noble and worth fighting for....but its better than wasting my time being reminded I'm alive for some god spirit forsaken planet I hardly even recognise.
Denak Kalamari Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 792	Posted - 2014.01.03 13:43:00 - [56] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: We do own it but your people still want it for their greedy hands we only wish to keep our land and protect it. (( and yet I still wouldn't mind taking your home from you like you took ours just for revenge of course)) I beg to differ. Gallente aren't always greedy, corrupt bastards as many Caldari often portray them to be. Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Dec. 31st
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard Templis CALSF 436	Posted - 2014.01.03 13:46:00 - [57] - Quote I mean no offense Leithe Askarii, but you have lost your way. If they gain ground the get more morale for their troops. We need to band together to take that so called rock in space for ther reasons. First the resources which could fund our war efforts for years. Second the tactical position could help us, transport troops and resources all across new eden, and finally the morale of our troops which is one of the most important things since we need each other in this time of trouble. We must act honorable and distinct in our acts from here out for we are great together not alone. We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard Templis CALSF 436	Posted - 2014.01.03 13:54:00 - [58] - Quote Denak Kalamari wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: We do own it but your people still want it for their greedy hands we only wish to keep our land and protect it. (( and yet I still wouldn't mind taking your home from you like you took ours just for revenge of course)) I beg to differ. Gallente aren't always greedy, corrupt bastards as many Caldari often portray them to be. So what of our p.o.w.s. you have been experimenting on and all the civilian lives you've killed in this war (( not capsuleer your regular army)). Your people have done us wrong in unimaginable ways and oppressed us for far to long. We stand against you now with the power to stop you We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Denak Kalamari Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 792	Posted - 2014.01.03 14:29:00 - [59] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: So what of our p.o.w.s. you have been experimenting on and all the civilian lives you've killed in this war (( not capsuleer your regular army)). Your people have done us wrong in unimaginable ways and oppressed us for far to long. We stand against you now with the power to stop you You did this, you did that, you support this, blah blah blah. I don't support the Gallente, in fact I actively work against them. Associating me as somehow supportive of the Federation is a false premise. I did nothing, my people, the Intaki, did nothing, they did. And are you really that much better? The ultimate "good guys", oppressed by the "evil" and corrupt Gallente and fighting for a righteous cause? You're not completely innocent either, and it takes two sides to start a conflict. The reason why the whole Caldari-Gallente war happened was because Caldari performed a terrorist attack, which was then responded by heavy Gallente bombarding on Caldari Prime. Then one of the Caldari fleet's ships crashed right into Gallente Prime. Spin this any way you want, the Caldari killed hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians during this whole pointless conflict. To clarify, I don't support the Gallente nor the Caldari, and neither side are the black and white good guys or bad guys the militias often portray them as. New Eden is a mix of different shades of grey, not a black and white, ultimate evil and ultimate good. Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Dec. 31st
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard Templis CALSF 436	Posted - 2014.01.03 16:03:00 - [60] - Quote The things you say we're correct but our race believes in honor and serving the state. The man in the story clearly was guilty. He stole documents from his corporation. Even if it wasn't serious that crime in itself is though. And also the templis dragonaors were not apart of our government. They were as you said terrorist. The Admiral stopped a massacre of tens of millions innocent civilians and sacrificed only a few million gallente in doing so. I would do it even if I wasn't immortal if I knew I'd save my people from certain death. We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals



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