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Burntface man112 Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 96	Posted - 2013.12.16 02:44:00 - [1] - Quote 15 of my best Corp mates refuse to play now because AVs where what they skill into entirely since they volunteer for that role for the Corporation for the PC battles... Now they have no longer any motivation to play because AVs especially Swarms have become a lost in the massive amount of Tanks that litter the field. Goodbye my lovers, this the day AVs lost there way.
Cosgar ParagonX 8747	Posted - 2013.12.16 02:45:00 - [2] - Quote Can I have their ISK? I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 850	Posted - 2013.12.16 02:46:00 - [3] - Quote And it's as if I could hear, faintly, the sound of Taps gently playing in the distance. Do your part. Join the revolution. Sabotage FW. Help this game burn! BURN DUST 2014
Lorhak Gannarsein 708	Posted - 2013.12.16 02:47:00 - [4] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Can I have their ISK? Fifteen guys? C'mon man, don't be greedy. Give me some! >Cosgar: You know, tanks are actually paper thin once their modules are in cooldown.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1481	Posted - 2013.12.16 02:47:00 - [5] - Quote Burntface man112 wrote: 15 of my best Corp mates refuse to play now because AVs where what they skill into entirely since they volunteer for that role for the Corporation for the PC battles... Now they have no longer any motivation to play because AVs especially Swarms have become a lost in the massive amount of Tanks that litter the field. Goodbye my lovers, this the day AVs lost there way. Wow Seriously wow You have 15 people in corp that only use AV? This is why we can't have nice things. Just hire 2 or 3 tankers. You could very easily replace that many silly AV with so few tanks. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Nazz'Dragg planetary retaliation organisation 19	Posted - 2013.12.16 02:48:00 - [6] - Quote Burntface man112 wrote: Goodbye my luvers Are you from the west country too? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lum_B9Scwo8#t=0m17s I would never of thought about that myself, Thanks.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 3169	Posted - 2013.12.16 02:50:00 - [7] - Quote That's a bit of an over reaction, yes Tank and AV are off at the moment, but it still works well if you can work together correctly, my AV brothers in PC tonight can attest to this. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 3 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
DeadlyAztec11 2789	Posted - 2013.12.16 02:56:00 - [8] - Quote I have a similar story, though the AV nerf is just the straw that broke the camels back. My alts: GeneralJohnRipper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Long Evity, CCP Rarara And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
Sgt Buttscratch 1148	Posted - 2013.12.16 02:56:00 - [9] - Quote 15 of your corp members are bitches I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
Ryder Azorria Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 731	Posted - 2013.12.16 02:58:00 - [10] - Quote Well clearly all 15 of them (although I suspect it may just be you, OP) have chosen to die rather than adapt - tanks may be harder to take out now, but by no means is it even anywhere close to impossible. All you need is to do is get a bit creative with your weapons of choice and mix up your tactics a bit - newsflash, standing in front of a tank spamming swarms untill they die doesn't work anymore, nor should it.

KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3224	Posted - 2013.12.16 02:59:00 - [11] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Burntface man112 wrote: 15 of my best Corp mates refuse to play now because AVs where what they skill into entirely since they volunteer for that role for the Corporation for the PC battles... Now they have no longer any motivation to play because AVs especially Swarms have become a lost in the massive amount of Tanks that litter the field. Goodbye my lovers, this the day AVs lost there way. Wow Seriously wow You have 15 people in corp that only use AV? This is why we can't have nice things. Just hire 2 or 3 tankers. You could very easily replace that many silly AV with so few tanks. 1 tank could fulfill the job of 15 Avers easily. And thats the problem people like Spkr4theDead miss the overall picture and think this is ok. AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446
Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 2225	Posted - 2013.12.16 02:59:00 - [12] - Quote AV now supports friendly tanks in hammering enemy tanks. If your best corp members can't understand that teamwork is required with vehicle users to succeed now, then they probably aren't your best. If you want a game where infantry dominates the battlefield and vehicles are smashed to pulp for trying to interfere, there are other places more accommodating. "When nothing is going your way, go out of your way to do nothing."
Mary Overdrive Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 5	Posted - 2013.12.16 03:00:00 - [13] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: That's a bit of an over reaction, yes Tank and AV are off at the moment, but it still works well if you can work together correctly, my AV brothers in PC tonight can attest to this. Well my friends, we dont due corps anyways... Kinda had something similar unless your using the Forge gun Swarms are useless because they don't have the range to keep up with the speed of Tanks. So Forge guns are basically the only AV option that effectively works as a squad coordinated unit. we tried mixing our Swarms and Forges but its only so effective because once a Tanks spots your unit he will close in on your position with harders and slaughtered everyone, since harders take little to no damage at all which is fine but when the shields are down it should be much more punishing.
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 1663	Posted - 2013.12.16 03:01:00 - [14] - Quote Clearly they did not know/understand HFTU!!!!! Going to stay out of AV/V debates, better for my sanity. GÿåTank driverGÿå
Cosgar ParagonX 8754	Posted - 2013.12.16 03:03:00 - [15] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Cosgar wrote: Can I have their ISK? Fifteen guys? C'mon man, don't be greedy. Give me some! I'm a logi that uses proto equipment. My loadout alone costs more than than a proto assault. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1486	Posted - 2013.12.16 03:06:00 - [16] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: I have a similar story, though the AV nerf is just the straw that broke the camels back. So CCP should've left AV where it was so nobody would tank ever again? Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 2124	Posted - 2013.12.16 03:07:00 - [17] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: That's a bit of an over reaction, yes Tank and AV are off at the moment, but it still works well if you can work together correctly, my AV brothers in PC tonight can attest to this. Lurch is pretty much an AV machine himself When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE! nú+
Lorhak Gannarsein 714	Posted - 2013.12.16 03:09:00 - [18] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Cosgar wrote: Can I have their ISK? Fifteen guys? C'mon man, don't be greedy. Give me some! I'm a logi that uses proto equipment. My loadout alone costs more than than a proto assault. I also am a proto logi w/ proto equips. (When there are no red tanks as need killin') >Cosgar: You know, tanks are actually paper thin once their modules are in cooldown.
Cosgar ParagonX 8755	Posted - 2013.12.16 03:10:00 - [19] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Cosgar wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Cosgar wrote: Can I have their ISK? Fifteen guys? C'mon man, don't be greedy. Give me some! I'm a logi that uses proto equipment. My loadout alone costs more than than a proto assault. I also am a proto logi w/ proto equips. (When there are no red tanks as need killin') Split 50/50 then? I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1329	Posted - 2013.12.16 03:10:00 - [20] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: I have a similar story, though the AV nerf is just the straw that broke the camels back. So CCP should've left AV where it was so nobody would tank ever again? I played along time in arma. and BF. Tanks have a purpose here. but not as "only tank can kill tank" purpose.

RED FARM GOOD OL' B0YS 31	Posted - 2013.12.16 03:16:00 - [21] - Quote Nut up bitches! Public Chat: GOOD OL' B0YS Please note the word B0YS has a zero in it.
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 665	Posted - 2013.12.16 03:22:00 - [22] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: And it's as if I could hear, faintly, the sound of Taps gently playing in the distance. You don't have to imagine, that is what YouTube is for: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn_iz8z2AGw&feature=youtube_gdata_player And can I has all yur guys' ISK? {:)}{3GÇó>
Viktor Hadah Jr 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 1482	Posted - 2013.12.16 03:22:00 - [23] - Quote OP did you not quit last week or something, gtfo Amarr My OB Kills Selling Templar BPO
Burntface man112 Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 99	Posted - 2013.12.16 03:46:00 - [24] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: I have a similar story, though the AV nerf is just the straw that broke the camels back. So CCP should've left AV where it was so nobody would tank ever again? people still tanked when AV were where they were at. Don't make up history due because it makes you look stupid.
Burntface man112 Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 99	Posted - 2013.12.16 03:47:00 - [25] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: OP did you not quit last week or something, gtfo I came back to haunt you bi tch tanker ass
Burntface man112 Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 99	Posted - 2013.12.16 03:48:00 - [26] - Quote RED FARM wrote: Nut up bitches! My nuts are right here bit ch! where are yours?? oh thats right back inside your tank *****.
Lorhak Gannarsein 730	Posted - 2013.12.16 08:12:00 - [27] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Cosgar wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Cosgar wrote: Can I have their ISK? Fifteen guys? C'mon man, don't be greedy. Give me some! I'm a logi that uses proto equipment. My loadout alone costs more than than a proto assault. I also am a proto logi w/ proto equips. (When there are no red tanks as need killin') Split 50/50 then? Fo sho' >Cosgar: You know, tanks are actually paper thin once their modules are in cooldown.
CrotchGrab 360 566	Posted - 2013.12.16 11:54:00 - [28] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Burntface man112 wrote: 15 of my best Corp mates refuse to play now because AVs where what they skill into entirely since they volunteer for that role for the Corporation for the PC battles... Now they have no longer any motivation to play because AVs especially Swarms have become a lost in the massive amount of Tanks that litter the field. Goodbye my lovers, this the day AVs lost there way. Wow Seriously wow You have 15 people in corp that only use AV? This is why we can't have nice things. Just hire 2 or 3 tankers. You could very easily replace that many silly AV with so few tanks. spk4r you are the worst troll ever. they sacrificed all of their infantry killing ability to focus SOLELY on tanks so that the rest of their guys in PC could focus on the fight on the ground you're beyond pathetic.
General John Ripper Pradox One Proficiency V. 18543	Posted - 2013.12.16 11:56:00 - [29] - Quote who is your corp? lol My alts: DeadlyAztec11, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior.
Import Beercase Beer For Evil Mercs 87	Posted - 2013.12.16 11:58:00 - [30] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Burntface man112 wrote: 15 of my best Corp mates refuse to play now because AVs where what they skill into entirely since they volunteer for that role for the Corporation for the PC battles... Now they have no longer any motivation to play because AVs especially Swarms have become a lost in the massive amount of Tanks that litter the field. Goodbye my lovers, this the day AVs lost there way. Wow Seriously wow You have 15 people in corp that only use AV? This is why we can't have nice things. Just hire 2 or 3 tankers. You could very easily replace that many silly AV with so few tanks. spk4r you are the worst troll ever. they sacrificed all of their infantry killing ability to focus SOLELY on tanks so that the rest of their guys in PC could focus on the fight on the ground you're beyond pathetic. Heh... Most of my active players in my corp are av players... from the beginning to the end.. Only few of us go for gungame and we dont play pc... guess that makes us bad... lucky some of the av weapons that work for clones are ohk.. "If at first you don't succeed, mccdiving is not for you." Snowflake in hell those are my odds in ambush

steadyhand amarr Scions of Athra 2097	Posted - 2013.12.16 12:02:00 - [31] - Quote 1.7 has proven the last straw for a lot of vets so i would trolling and acknowledg that this has become a big deal breaker of an issue . Most vets agree the game is beyond saving at this point. The bleeding of players has not stopped numbers have not recoverd and the game is now in a deathsprile where only the hardcore holsouts will be left "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1940	Posted - 2013.12.16 12:03:00 - [32] - Quote Burntface man112 wrote: 15 of my best Corp mates refuse to play now because AVs where what they skill into entirely since they volunteer for that role for the Corporation for the PC battles... Now they have no longer any motivation to play because AVs especially Swarms have become a lost in the massive amount of Tanks that litter the field. Goodbye my lovers, this the day AVs lost there way. So idiot players will not adapt is basically what you are saying because its too hard
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 470	Posted - 2013.12.16 12:05:00 - [33] - Quote AV nerf was a bit harsh in some places, more in buffing tanks and nerfing AV before knowing the true balance difference with just one variable changed. But at least its better then the "Give everyone super aim" with Auto aim patch.. Lost a lot of actually good players to CCP taking the challenge out of aiming and with one patch eliminating the gun game everyone got addicted to in the game-play of DUST. Sad thing is people want to turn it off but then they are at a disadvantage... So they are stuck turning it back on.
Anmol Singh The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 541	Posted - 2013.12.16 12:05:00 - [34] - Quote Burntface man112 wrote: 15 of my best Corp mates refuse to play now because AVs where what they skill into entirely since they volunteer for that role for the Corporation for the PC battles... Now they have no longer any motivation to play because AVs especially Swarms have become a lost in the massive amount of Tanks that litter the field. Goodbye my lovers, this the day AVs lost there way. never herd of your corp... *Sagaris lover!!!*
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 354	Posted - 2013.12.16 12:05:00 - [35] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Burntface man112 wrote: 15 of my best Corp mates refuse to play now because AVs where what they skill into entirely since they volunteer for that role for the Corporation for the PC battles... Now they have no longer any motivation to play because AVs especially Swarms have become a lost in the massive amount of Tanks that litter the field. Goodbye my lovers, this the day AVs lost there way. So idiot players will not adapt is basically what you are saying because its too hard The same could be said about pre 1.7 tankers that quit because of AV right? Because those tanks that get cover from infantry where doing pretty well most of the time...
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1940	Posted - 2013.12.16 12:15:00 - [36] - Quote Korvin Lomont wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Burntface man112 wrote: 15 of my best Corp mates refuse to play now because AVs where what they skill into entirely since they volunteer for that role for the Corporation for the PC battles... Now they have no longer any motivation to play because AVs especially Swarms have become a lost in the massive amount of Tanks that litter the field. Goodbye my lovers, this the day AVs lost there way. So idiot players will not adapt is basically what you are saying because its too hard The same could be said about pre 1.7 tankers that quit because of AV right? Because those tanks that get cover from infantry where doing pretty well most of the time... Cover from infantry? Only if i had all snipers to hit the FG on towers and swarms 350m away which i couldnt see because lolrendering PC was just as bad, FG on towers and not just for the tanks either Most of the tankers adapted to each nerf and kept with it, now the 1st change for AV in a long time and they are all walking away from it
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 982	Posted - 2013.12.16 12:18:00 - [37] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: 1.7 has proven the last straw for a lot of vets so i would trolling and acknowledg that this has become a big deal breaker of an issue . Most vets agree the game is beyond saving at this point. The bleeding of players has not stopped numbers have not recoverd and the game is now in a deathsprile where only the hardcore holsouts will be left Waiting for FFX HD in March then its time to sell my Black Friday PS3 and get a PS4 and get PS4 games. Dust 514 loses another player for good then . Wonder what the Dust 514 player counts will be in May??.......lol!! Abandon Ship!, Abandon Ship!! Jumps into escape pod! Selected destination Planet PS4.
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 354	Posted - 2013.12.16 12:21:00 - [38] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Korvin Lomont wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Burntface man112 wrote: 15 of my best Corp mates refuse to play now because AVs where what they skill into entirely since they volunteer for that role for the Corporation for the PC battles... Now they have no longer any motivation to play because AVs especially Swarms have become a lost in the massive amount of Tanks that litter the field. Goodbye my lovers, this the day AVs lost there way. So idiot players will not adapt is basically what you are saying because its too hard The same could be said about pre 1.7 tankers that quit because of AV right? Because those tanks that get cover from infantry where doing pretty well most of the time... Cover from infantry? Only if i had all snipers to hit the FG on towers and swarms 350m away which i couldnt see because lolrendering PC was just as bad, FG on towers and not just for the tanks either Most of the tankers adapted to each nerf and kept with it, now the 1st change for AV in a long time and they are all walking away from it Why not bring in snipers a good sniper easily can fight of a forge heavy and kill any swarm user that is sitting on a tower. Those on the ground could be dealt with assaults. AV is meant to be the hard counter to Vehicles. But even now with our weapons nerfed some tanker still complain that we adapted and manage to kill tanks with the weapon that is left (RE's).
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 4168	Posted - 2013.12.16 12:22:00 - [39] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: 1.7 has proven the last straw for a lot of vets so i would trolling and acknowledg that this has become a big deal breaker of an issue . Most vets agree the game is beyond saving at this point. The bleeding of players has not stopped numbers have not recoverd and the game is now in a deathsprile where only the hardcore holsouts will be left it also got quite a few vehicle vets back, so you win some you lose some. however a simple hotfix and some av rebalancing will probably even vehicles out quickly enough. AV players are just massively over reacting, like usual. Lv 4 forum warrior Bringer of Bacon Knight of AMV's
Horizen Kenpachi Kenpachi's Castle 44	Posted - 2013.12.16 12:28:00 - [40] - Quote Nazz'Dragg wrote: Burntface man112 wrote: Goodbye my luvers Are you from the west country too? Alright me cocker from cornwall Hit me with your nerf bat.

Justicar Karnellia Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 241	Posted - 2013.12.16 12:30:00 - [41] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Burntface man112 wrote: 15 of my best Corp mates refuse to play now because AVs where what they skill into entirely since they volunteer for that role for the Corporation for the PC battles... Now they have no longer any motivation to play because AVs especially Swarms have become a lost in the massive amount of Tanks that litter the field. Goodbye my lovers, this the day AVs lost there way. Wow Seriously wow You have 15 people in corp that only use AV? This is why we can't have nice things. Just hire 2 or 3 tankers. You could very easily replace that many silly AV with so few tanks. 1 tank could fulfill the job of 15 Avers easily. And thats the problem people like Spkr4theDead miss the overall picture and think this is ok. Yep, I think everyone knows that he doesn't understand this fundamental flaw - yet he keeps posting everywhere....
Maciej Szambelan Made in Poland... 11	Posted - 2013.12.16 12:42:00 - [42] - Quote The game has become all about how to kill a tank.. It might be fun for you guys with 20+ million sp. What should do new players like me? It shouldn't be all about killing tanks. And NO I won't give my isk to anybody!!
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1940	Posted - 2013.12.16 12:44:00 - [43] - Quote Korvin Lomont wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Korvin Lomont wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Burntface man112 wrote: 15 of my best Corp mates refuse to play now because AVs where what they skill into entirely since they volunteer for that role for the Corporation for the PC battles... Now they have no longer any motivation to play because AVs especially Swarms have become a lost in the massive amount of Tanks that litter the field. Goodbye my lovers, this the day AVs lost there way. So idiot players will not adapt is basically what you are saying because its too hard The same could be said about pre 1.7 tankers that quit because of AV right? Because those tanks that get cover from infantry where doing pretty well most of the time... Cover from infantry? Only if i had all snipers to hit the FG on towers and swarms 350m away which i couldnt see because lolrendering PC was just as bad, FG on towers and not just for the tanks either Most of the tankers adapted to each nerf and kept with it, now the 1st change for AV in a long time and they are all walking away from it Why not bring in snipers a good sniper easily can fight of a forge heavy and kill any swarm user that is sitting on a tower. Those on the ground could be dealt with assaults. AV is meant to be the hard counter to Vehicles. But even now with our weapons nerfed some tanker still complain that we adapted and manage to kill tanks with the weapon that is left (RE's). Whoever said that? A tank is a hard counter to a tank imo AV is an option for infantry who do not have a tank around, AV job is to deter the enemy vehicle at least, problem is AV wants to outright kill it because detering the enemy vehicle isnt enough these days
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 354	Posted - 2013.12.16 12:58:00 - [44] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Korvin Lomont wrote: AV is meant to be the hard counter to Vehicles. But even now with our weapons nerfed some tanker still complain that we adapted and manage to kill tanks with the weapon that is left (RE's). Whoever said that? A tank is a hard counter to a tank imo AV is an option for infantry who do not have a tank around, AV job is to deter the enemy vehicle at least, problem is AV wants to outright kill it because detering the enemy vehicle isnt enough these days AV Tanks (Rail and Missile to some degree) sure they are a hard cunter as well I have never denied this. But this change the matter that AV Weapons are hard counters to vehicles that why they are called ANTI Vehicle weapons... SOOO what role do you think should AV weapons have, especially those that can't do any damage to infantry if not killing vehicles? How would you feel when your, tank that you fit especially to bring down other vehicles, that has little to no capability to fight anything else than vehicles would only barely damage said vehicles?
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 695	Posted - 2013.12.16 12:58:00 - [45] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: And it's as if I could hear, faintly, the sound of Taps gently playing in the distance. You don't have to imagine, that is what YouTube is for: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn_iz8z2AGw&feature=youtube_gdata_player And can I has all yur guys' ISK? -1 for you missing the expertly timed Christmas movie reference. (+100 for making the reference, best Christmas movie ever!) Oh, right. AV was definitely OP, I have to admit it. Now it's UP, but only b/c tanks are too fast and there are too damn many of them. I also think there should be a harsh stacking penalty on the hardeners, any tanker who would dare claim that having the ability to have them going more or less constantly is not ez mode is full of sheit. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor!
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1940	Posted - 2013.12.16 13:04:00 - [46] - Quote Korvin Lomont wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Korvin Lomont wrote: AV is meant to be the hard counter to Vehicles. But even now with our weapons nerfed some tanker still complain that we adapted and manage to kill tanks with the weapon that is left (RE's). Whoever said that? A tank is a hard counter to a tank imo AV is an option for infantry who do not have a tank around, AV job is to deter the enemy vehicle at least, problem is AV wants to outright kill it because detering the enemy vehicle isnt enough these days AV Tanks (Rail and Missile to some degree) sure they are a hard cunter as well I have never denied this. But this change the matter that AV Weapons are hard counters to vehicles that why they are called ANTI Vehicle weapons... SOOO what role do you think should AV weapons have, especially those that can't do any damage to infantry if not killing vehicles? How would you feel when your, tank that you fit especially to bring down other vehicles, that has little to no capability to fight anything else than vehicles would only barely damage said vehicles? Well for one i dont tent to attack tanks when they are shiny and 2 your straight lying now All the current AV is easily capable of bringing down a vehicle, the problem with AV is the player behind the trigger generally being an idiot Many AV players have stuck with AV and have brought down a fair few vehicles, if they can do it why cant the rest?
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 354	Posted - 2013.12.16 13:09:00 - [47] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Korvin Lomont wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Korvin Lomont wrote: AV is meant to be the hard counter to Vehicles. But even now with our weapons nerfed some tanker still complain that we adapted and manage to kill tanks with the weapon that is left (RE's). Whoever said that? A tank is a hard counter to a tank imo AV is an option for infantry who do not have a tank around, AV job is to deter the enemy vehicle at least, problem is AV wants to outright kill it because detering the enemy vehicle isnt enough these days AV Tanks (Rail and Missile to some degree) sure they are a hard cunter as well I have never denied this. But this change the matter that AV Weapons are hard counters to vehicles that why they are called ANTI Vehicle weapons... SOOO what role do you think should AV weapons have, especially those that can't do any damage to infantry if not killing vehicles? How would you feel when your, tank that you fit especially to bring down other vehicles, that has little to no capability to fight anything else than vehicles would only barely damage said vehicles? Well for one i dont tent to attack tanks when they are shiny and 2 your straight lying now All the current AV is easily capable of bringing down a vehicle, the problem with AV is the player behind the trigger generally being an idiot Many AV players have stuck with AV and have brought down a fair few vehicles, if they can do it why cant the rest? To be honest the only tanks I have seen burn where due to other tanks or RE's. Forges seem to do well so far but the forge is not a pure AV weapon it is a hybrid weapon I you want so. And honestly IF a tanker dies to Swarms he must be terrible or completely ignoring the Swarm user or get hit by multiple AV sources with swarms delivering the final blow. BTW what makes you think I shoot with swarms at a Tank with hardeners on? I barely use swarms anymore to be honest.


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