15 of my best Corp mates refuse to play now because AVs where what they skill into entirely since they volunteer for that role for the Corporation for the PC battles... Now they have no longer any motivation to play because AVs especially Swarms have become a lost in the massive amount of Tanks that litter the field. Goodbye my lovers, this the day AVs lost there way.

15 of my best Corp mates refuse to play now because AVs where what they skill into entirely since they volunteer for that role for the Corporation for the PC battles... Now they have no longer any motivation to play because AVs especially Swarms have become a lost in the massive amount of Tanks that litter the field. Goodbye my lovers, this the day AVs lost there way.

So idiot players will not adapt is basically what you are saying because its too hard

The same could be said about pre 1.7 tankers that quit because of AV right? Because those tanks that get cover from infantry where doing pretty well most of the time...

1.7 has proven the last straw for a lot of vets so i would trolling and acknowledg that this has become a big deal breaker of an issue . Most vets agree the game is beyond saving at this point. The bleeding of players has not stopped numbers have not recoverd and the game is now in a deathsprile where only the hardcore holsouts will be left

Cover from infantry?

Only if i had all snipers to hit the FG on towers and swarms 350m away which i couldnt see because lolrendering

PC was just as bad, FG on towers and not just for the tanks either

Most of the tankers adapted to each nerf and kept with it, now the 1st change for AV in a long time and they are all walking away from it

1.7 has proven the last straw for a lot of vets so i would trolling and acknowledg that this has become a big deal breaker of an issue . Most vets agree the game is beyond saving at this point. The bleeding of players has not stopped numbers have not recoverd and the game is now in a deathsprile where only the hardcore holsouts will be left

Are you from the west country too?

1 tank could fulfill the job of 15 Avers easily.

And thats the problem

people like Spkr4theDead miss the overall picture and think this is ok.

Why not bring in snipers a good sniper easily can fight of a forge heavy and kill any swarm user that is sitting on a tower. Those on the ground could be dealt with assaults.

AV is meant to be the hard counter to Vehicles. But even now with our weapons nerfed some tanker still complain that we adapted and manage to kill tanks with the weapon that is left (RE's).

Whoever said that?

A tank is a hard counter to a tank imo

AV is an option for infantry who do not have a tank around, AV job is to deter the enemy vehicle at least, problem is AV wants to outright kill it because detering the enemy vehicle isnt enough these days

You don't have to imagine, that is what YouTube is for:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn_iz8z2AGw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

And can I has all yur guys' ISK?

AV Tanks (Rail and Missile to some degree) sure they are a hard cunter as well I have never denied this. But this change the matter that AV Weapons are hard counters to vehicles that why they are called ANTI Vehicle weapons...

SOOO what role do you think should AV weapons have, especially those that can't do any damage to infantry if not killing vehicles? How would you feel when your, tank that you fit especially to bring down other vehicles, that has little to no capability to fight anything else than vehicles would only barely damage said vehicles?

Well for one i dont tent to attack tanks when they are shiny and 2 your straight lying now

All the current AV is easily capable of bringing down a vehicle, the problem with AV is the player behind the trigger generally being an idiot

Many AV players have stuck with AV and have brought down a fair few vehicles, if they can do it why cant the rest?