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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.09 17:46:00 -
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Meh...being a tanker I have come to think that yeah atm tanks are gamebreaking just a little....not 1 or two, that's fine....just when 3 or more get going at the same time.
To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.
Reference = ISK
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NAV HIV
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
732
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Posted - 2014.01.09 17:49:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Meh...being a tanker I have come to think that yeah atm tanks are gamebreaking just a little....not 1 or two, that's fine....just when 3 or more get going at the same time.
1 or two you can evade, hide, use tactics... more than that... Well we all know how that goes |
Quil Evrything
Triple Terrors
676
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Posted - 2014.01.09 17:50:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:
On my tanker alt, every time I kill another tank they switch to rail tank.
They never come at me for another go EVER, this game is packed with nubs. If you are a tanker reading this, switch to rail tank immediately after you have blown them up, you will not be getting a second epic duel.
pshaw. For "epic duels", use a dropsuit.
In tanks, I just want to blow you up 
For the record though, having a rail-vs-rail battle, can be "epic" in its own way, given the challenge of slow rotation speeds.
It becomes more positionally strategic. |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
1923
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Posted - 2014.01.09 17:51:00 -
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Right, AV is just UP.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
2005
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Posted - 2014.01.09 18:04:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:
On my tanker alt, every time I kill another tank they switch to rail tank.
They never come at me for another go EVER, this game is packed with nubs. If you are a tanker reading this, switch to rail tank immediately after you have blown them up, you will not be getting a second epic duel.
pshaw. For "epic duels", use a dropsuit. In tanks, I just want to blow you up For the record though, having a rail-vs-rail battle, can be "epic" in its own way, given the challenge of slow rotation speeds. It becomes more positionally strategic.
I think you should have posted that in the rookie training grounds mate.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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NAV HIV
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
735
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Posted - 2014.01.09 18:06:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Right, AV is just UP.
I'd use the Term "Not Balanced"
People get too sensitive about these OP UP thingyy |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
1179
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Posted - 2014.01.09 18:06:00 -
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I bust tanks,
with varying degrees of success (got some hate mail over it even)
AV needs a buff
and the recall feature needs an overhaulGǪ
Should someone be able to recall a tank in the time it takes me to reload my AV weapon?
Because this has happened to me a few times.
KRRROOOOOOM
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NAV HIV
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
736
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Posted - 2014.01.09 18:12:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:I bust tanks,
with varying degrees of success (got some hate mail over it even)
AV needs a buff
and the recall feature needs an overhaulGǪ
Should someone be able to recall a tank in the time it takes me to reload my AV weapon?
Because this has happened to me a few times.
No recalling tanks... Once it's on the field it should remain there. I don't get to recall my Suits, why should they ?! |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
833
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Posted - 2014.01.09 18:16:00 -
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Want vehicle balance.... make it so make it so it takes time to get in or out of a vehicle.
Parody Dust 514 Lyrics
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Mortedeamor
1204
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Posted - 2014.01.09 18:18:00 -
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ive tryed defending them av is just being stupid and those of us who have adapted are responsible for that death that came so quick all you see is Mortedeamor() your name
Im puerto rican we rage deal with it
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Sole Fenychs
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
49
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Posted - 2014.01.09 18:36:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:Reason why tanks are OP. AV means what?
*I know!*
shh....
The funny thing is that AV is now perfectly balanced... Against LAVs.
Fighting a LAV with a swarmer is actually quite satisfying and not like the one-hit-kill grenade of the past.
Unfortunately, you can have three swarmers against a tank and still be incapable of stopping it.
Fighting a HAV would be satisfying if those ******* didn't have instant HP regeneration and if WP were awarded for harming them.
Seriously, that's the entire issue. I'm okay with them being basically unkillable - As long as forcing a retreat means that they'll be out of the battle for a while while their HP regenerates. I guess modules are supposed to have a similar effect, but tanks can murder swarmers even without hardeners.
I wish I could fight dropships with the plasma gun. That would be an awesome reward for skilled shooting.
Edit:
tl;dr lower HP/shield regen extremely, remove regeneration modules (Hardeners are enough) and do something about recall. Then add WP based on damage thresholds on tanks (like, you get WP for every 25% HP you remove or something) and you've got a satisfying situation for everyone - Juggernaut tanks and usable AV that isn't overpowered against LAVs. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
7704
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Posted - 2014.01.09 18:39:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Soulja Ghostface wrote:its called teamwork
you AVer's should try it
it's fun Why do AV have to use teamwork to take out your solo tank? It's not the cost, so don't give me that bullshit. They cost pennies. 1 Proto AV fit > 2 Soma/Sica
That SHOULD be the case, looking at the cost.
But it isn't.
Level 7 Forum Warrior
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
5490
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Posted - 2014.01.09 18:39:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:True Adamance wrote:Meh...being a tanker I have come to think that yeah atm tanks are gamebreaking just a little....not 1 or two, that's fine....just when 3 or more get going at the same time. 1 or two you can evade, hide, use tactics... more than that... Well we all know how that goes
Yeah but consequently when these same fools go up against a real tanker....well this is how it plays out.
Canus: Oh hey its jason...
True: Jason Pearson?
Canus: Yeah
True: On our team?
Canus: No
True Oh **** me...I'm getting out of my tank (recalls)
*the sound of Gunlogi engines and a volley of missiles destroys my recalling tank and I run away
Not five mins later Jason cleared the field of the other 5 idiots in Soma and Rail Sica and was rolling around like he owned the place.
Twenty mins later I did that to another team.....
To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
1479
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Posted - 2014.01.09 18:41:00 -
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JIHAD JEEP TO THE RESCUE!!!!!!
*Queue the Dukes Of Hazzard music* |
Kharga Lum
Xeno Labs Security
215
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Posted - 2014.01.09 18:45:00 -
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Malek McRoland wrote:Soulja Ghostface wrote:its called teamwork
you AVer's should try it
it's fun Honestly. AV doesn't work. Seriously. Try using AV on a tank. Pretty please 
Forge Gun works really really well. The slow rate of fire just means you either need two of them or a swarm. Two AV infantry will kill a tank. |
NAV HIV
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
739
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Posted - 2014.01.09 18:45:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:JIHAD JEEP TO THE RESCUE!!!!!!
*Queue the Dukes Of Hazzard music*
Jihad Jeep > Tanks > AV |
Sole Fenychs
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
49
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Posted - 2014.01.09 18:45:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:JIHAD JEEP TO THE RESCUE!!!!!!
*Queue the Dukes Of Hazzard music*
I have been intending to use them for quite a while.
After I finally managed to skill into scout suits, I kind of got sidetracked and went for the assault rifle instead of getting RE perks.
This game really needs militia REs and forge guns.
Maybe one day I'll have access to the proper counters for tanks. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
1479
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Posted - 2014.01.09 18:46:00 -
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Kharga Lum wrote:Malek McRoland wrote:Soulja Ghostface wrote:its called teamwork
you AVer's should try it
it's fun Honestly. AV doesn't work. Seriously. Try using AV on a tank. Pretty please Forge Gun works really really well. The slow rate of fire just means you either need two of them or a swarm. Two AV infantry will kill a tank.
Two proto forge gunners required to kill one jackass in a militia tank. Nope, no imbalance there.
CCP don't nerf tanks. Bring AV back to 1.6 and let us play. |
Righteous Rage
BIG BAD W0LVES
27
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Posted - 2014.01.09 18:52:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:No tanks are where they are at.
I cant wait for the return of the Surya And Sagaris (protoype tanks)
that will seperate us real tankers from militia scrubs
I was thinking about the sagi on the way home last night.
I realized, its not coming back. Why the hell would we need more tanks than we have now? unless they are going to re rework vehicles and av I doubt we will see these beasts again.
"Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam."
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
5491
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Posted - 2014.01.09 18:55:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Kharga Lum wrote:Malek McRoland wrote:Soulja Ghostface wrote:its called teamwork
you AVer's should try it
it's fun Honestly. AV doesn't work. Seriously. Try using AV on a tank. Pretty please Forge Gun works really really well. The slow rate of fire just means you either need two of them or a swarm. Two AV infantry will kill a tank. Two proto forge gunners required to kill one jackass in a militia tank. Nope, no imbalance there. CCP don't nerf tanks. Bring AV back to 1.6 and let us play.
But why do people feel like having to work together is wrong? Even on comms when I fight I hear people ***** and moaning about how their enemy didnt fight them one vs one.....
why shouldnt two people work together to destroy an HAV....again if you get me in any game mode I am almost certainly immediately in debt for 1-2 matches to recoup my losses. Its the risk I take to bring superior armour and firepower to the battlefield and one that draws the ire of just about every enemy player in game.
To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
1481
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Posted - 2014.01.09 18:59:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:
But why do people feel like having to work together is wrong? Even on comms when I fight I hear people ***** and moaning about how their enemy didnt fight them one vs one.....
why shouldnt two people work together to destroy an HAV....again if you get me in any game mode I am almost certainly immediately in debt for 1-2 matches to recoup my losses. Its the risk I take to bring superior armour and firepower to the battlefield and one that draws the ire of just about every enemy player in game.
Because it's a balance issue. One of you should not require two of us in order to kill you.
Now if tank driving magically requires two or more people to drive, I will shut up about needing another body to jack you for your lunch money.
Tanks as-is create a manpower imbalance.
Jihad Jeeps are currently the only answer. |
R F Gyro
Clones 4u
925
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Posted - 2014.01.09 19:04:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:But why do people feel like having to work together is wrong? Even on comms when I fight I hear people ***** and moaning about how their enemy didnt fight them one vs one.....
why shouldnt two people work together to destroy an HAV....again if you get me in any game mode I am almost certainly immediately in debt for 1-2 matches to recoup my losses. Its the risk I take to bring superior armour and firepower to the battlefield and one that draws the ire of just about every enemy player in game.
Teamwork isn't wrong. It should be encouraged, and teamwork should beat solo every time.
What people don't like is that with the current mechanic, only one side has to use teamwork.
Lets say I call in a Soma and barrel into the fight solo, blatting infantry left, right and center. For them to do anything about it, they have to work as a team, so 3 of them get together to form an AV squad. Now they can probably kill me.
Except its not just me is it? There are 2 other people on my team also soloing in tanks. Or maybe they are in assaults, happily killing (now that almost defenceless) AV squad.
If my team brings in the maximum number of tanks, your team cannot counter it except with the same number of tanks.
RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
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stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
915
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Posted - 2014.01.09 19:05:00 -
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I made a zero SP 72k milita soma and I can beat gunnlogis and madrugars and I just laugh at any AV that isn't an ishukone assault FG, I don't even have hardeners on just passive reps.
Militia tanks are very OP, and so is hardener cycling. There needs to be a limit of one hardener type per vehicle, whats the point of AV if tanks can just cycle their hardeners and be immune to AV the entire match.
I can't wait for the inevitable AV buff or tank nerf, it'll be nice to not have to run Lai Dais every match and just pull them out as AV support when needed.
STB Director, #1 in Warpoints E3 Closed Beta Build, Water Pipe Aficionado
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iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
1278
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Posted - 2014.01.09 19:15:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:finally someone who knows tanks aremt OP
Rails are good where they are. i want them to get a splash radius buff.
Dont make the excuse of saying it's anti tank because that is what large missles are for
I disagree, rails should only lucky shot infantry, it feels, right at the moment.
Tanks feel balanced if you buy a couple of sica and a couple of soma and just run them when it fits.
The Tank game is pretty awesome tbh. Ive had loads of fun.
"We spent so much time huddling inside buildings with tanks circling outside like a swarm of sharks around bait"
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
763
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Posted - 2014.01.09 19:17:00 -
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Tanks are just a bit to fast.
Slow them down a bit and make their decision of engaging and fleeing based on cooldowns more of a risk vs reward scenario.
As it is right now you can escape any threat bar a faster HAV even at your weakest moment. |
Charlotte O'Dell
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
1524
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Posted - 2014.01.09 19:26:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:finally someone who knows tanks aremt OP
Rails are good where they are. i want them to get a splash radius buff.
Dont make the excuse of saying it's anti tank because that is what large missles are for
You are not a tanker. Anyone who says rails need a SPLASH BUFF is a fake a$$ noob. Every other REAL tanker, and I, can hit a scout at full sprint from 10m or 600m and get a direct hit. Stop acting like you tank- you don't.
Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
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