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Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2094	Posted - 2013.12.15 18:52:00 - [1] - Quote I told you so. I bloody well told you so. DUST 514 just went full COD. Never go full COD.
Benjamin Ciscko The Generals General Tso's Alliance 364	Posted - 2013.12.15 18:53:00 - [2] - Quote No you didn't tell me anything. Tanker/Logi Tanks almost fixed.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2094	Posted - 2013.12.15 18:53:00 - [3] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: No you didn't tell me anything. I told everyone on the forums. DUST 514 just went full COD. Never go full COD.
GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR 1113	Posted - 2013.12.15 18:56:00 - [4] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: No you didn't tell me anything. Nope not one word lol G£«NASCAR 514 !!!!!!!!!!G£« Check out my Youtube
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2095	Posted - 2013.12.15 19:02:00 - [5] - Quote GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: No you didn't tell me anything. Nope not one word lol Re-edited the OP. Take a 2nd look if you will. DUST 514 just went full COD. Never go full COD.
Benjamin Ciscko The Generals General Tso's Alliance 364	Posted - 2013.12.15 19:04:00 - [6] - Quote I get my way when AV has to use skill and not lock on shoot repeat blow up tank if you use tactics tanks are incredibly easy to kill. Tanker/Logi Tanks almost fixed.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2095	Posted - 2013.12.15 19:06:00 - [7] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: I get my way when AV has to use skill and not lock on shoot repeat blow up tank if you use tactics tanks are incredibly easy to kill. Umm, isn't that exactly how you use a turret? Oh and yes I forgot AV needs tactics now. And HAVs need: ... Hypocrite much? DUST 514 just went full COD. Never go full COD.
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 5060	Posted - 2013.12.15 19:06:00 - [8] - Quote Atiim wrote: GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: No you didn't tell me anything. Nope not one word lol Re-edited the OP. Take a 2nd look if you will. Nope, still don't recall. Never forget How to fix the Logi
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2095	Posted - 2013.12.15 19:08:00 - [9] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Nope, still don't recall. Now your just being an idiot. DUST 514 just went full COD. Never go full COD.
Sgt Buttscratch 1145	Posted - 2013.12.15 19:10:00 - [10] - Quote Killed so many tanks yesterday, this thread is a joke. I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans

Benjamin Ciscko The Generals General Tso's Alliance 364	Posted - 2013.12.15 19:19:00 - [11] - Quote Atiim wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: I get my way when AV has to use skill and not lock on shoot repeat blow up tank if you use tactics tanks are incredibly easy to kill. Umm, isn't that exactly how you use a turret? Oh and yes I forgot AV needs tactics now. And HAVs need: ... Hypocrite much? Since when did my missile turret lock onto infantry? AV should require tactics. HAV needs ground support so many swarmer's can hide behind a rock or mountain we can not climb so infantry eradicates them for us we are not invincible No I am not really being a hypocrite it used to be tanks needed infantry support and would still get soloed by some tower forge and now 3-4 AV can still kill a tank with infantry support. BTW it is BS that AV can not protect themselves look at him as he takes out multiple people with his submachine gun while carrying a proto swarm launcher. The action starts at 1:30 ends at 4:25 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrTD6vW0BBI Tanker/Logi Tanks almost fixed.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 6260	Posted - 2013.12.15 19:23:00 - [12] - Quote Ssh, there can be no tears now. Only dreams. Level 6 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui KOBAYASHI MARU PROJECT 208	Posted - 2013.12.15 19:33:00 - [13] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: HAV needs ground support so many swarmer's can hide behind a rock or mountain we can not climb so infantry eradicates them for us we are not invincible You know you cant use that excuse right ... tanks CAN now climb mountains and there isn't ANY infantry now because they are all in tanks . As far as not being invincible , well between armor hardeners and your speed ... oh yeah the nitro as well .. there is NOTHING that tanks can't do beside hack a null cannon and I'm sure that will be in 1.8 . " BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
Benjamin Ciscko The Generals General Tso's Alliance 364	Posted - 2013.12.15 19:41:00 - [14] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: HAV needs ground support so many swarmer's can hide behind a rock or mountain we can not climb so infantry eradicates them for us we are not invincible You know you cant use that excuse right ... tanks CAN now climb mountains and there isn't ANY infantry now because they are all in tanks . As far as not being invincible , well between armor hardeners and your speed ... oh yeah the nitro as well .. there is NOTHING that tanks can't do beside hack a null cannon and I'm sure that will be in 1.8 . I don't use armor hardeners or Nitrus and watch this at 1:30 if I was the tank I sure as hell would have needed infantry support to deal with the swarmers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrTD6vW0BBI no my tank can not climb almost completely vertical mountains. I usually get into a squad with one other tanker even if he is not a dedicated a tanker and obliterate the enemy tanks I will often lose a tank but whats my 500k loss when I am killing 6-10 tanks, I make sure the other team loses so many tanks they can't afford to keep spamming them you can do the same with AV. Tanker/Logi Tanks almost fixed.
Gelan Corbaine Gladiators Vanguard 258	Posted - 2013.12.15 23:48:00 - [15] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: No I am not really being a hypocrite it used to be tanks needed infantry support and would still get soloed by some tower forge and now 3-4 AV can still kill a tank with infantry support. BTW it is BS that AV can not protect themselves look at him as he takes out multiple people with his submachine gun while carrying a proto swarm launcher. The action starts at 1:30 ends at 4:25 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrTD6vW0BBI He was fighting mostly enemy AV and one rifle user who unluckily spawned right next to him . As soon as he met more rifle users he died ...... No job is worth doing if you don't get paid in the end .
True Adamance Scions of Athra 4906	Posted - 2013.12.15 23:50:00 - [16] - Quote Atiim wrote: I told you so. I bloody well told you so. [edit] Forgot Something Anyways, remember back when I made that thread called Tank 514 saying that if pilots ever got their wish then even MLT HAVs will be able to shrug off PRO AV? Remember when I said that if pilots got their wish, AV would be useless to the point where you would rather just field a HAV of your own? Remember when I also said that when this happens, I'll file a help ticket requesting 1B ISK and 2mil AUR along with a picture of me on the store front saying "I told you so?" Now I can honestly say, "I bloody well told you so". -HAND heheheheheehhahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHAH cough cough....hehehe. ehm "Shudder. Again another smart idea from an Amarr..."- Forlorn Destrier (11/12/13) LAWL
CrotchGrab 360 Caldari State 554	Posted - 2013.12.15 23:53:00 - [17] - Quote Atiim wrote: I told you so. I bloody well told you so. [edit] Forgot Something Anyways, remember back when I made that thread called Tank 514 saying that if pilots ever got their wish then even MLT HAVs will be able to shrug off PRO AV? Remember when I said that if pilots got their wish, AV would be useless to the point where you would rather just field a HAV of your own? Remember when I also said that when this happens, I'll file a help ticket requesting 1B ISK and 2mil AUR along with a picture of me on the store front saying "I told you so?" Now I can honestly say, "I bloody well told you so". -HAND you have idiots like spk4rthedead to blame. people kept complaining and complaining. you saw it coming, i saw it coming, although I didn't state it like you did. CCP listened to the IDIOTS that complained about things killing them, now they have their wish, their toys are unstoppable and the game is unplayable. CCP went too far, they nerfed AV into the ground and buffed tanks into the sky. Here's the thing though, tanks were already quite viable, you just had to be good. Anybody knows that taking down a good tanker in a good tank wasn't a case of lobbing a few AV nades at it. The people that died that way were just BAD tankers! So as usual, the children, the crybabies, the bad tankers complained and complained and they got what they want. This is how games die CCP. Remember MAG? Scott Rudi? 1.03? RBS? You're breaking the game by listening to the wrong people!
Pvt Numnutz Black Phoenix Mercenaries 432	Posted - 2013.12.16 00:02:00 - [18] - Quote I'm sure someone else could say they told you that av would whine that they actually have to think and use teamwork. Besides my wish as a dropship pilot is counter measures. Anyway tanks aren't invincible, I have seen many tanks die in 1.7
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2653	Posted - 2013.12.16 00:05:00 - [19] - Quote I never saw you say any of this. But you get a like anyway. No.
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 660	Posted - 2013.12.16 00:08:00 - [20] - Quote POST THE LINK! My logi-code.

Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1230	Posted - 2013.12.16 00:36:00 - [21] - Quote Atiim wrote: I told you so. I bloody well told you so. [edit] Forgot Something Anyways, remember back when I made that thread called Tank 514 saying that if pilots ever got their wish then even MLT HAVs will be able to shrug off PRO AV? Remember when I said that if pilots got their wish, AV would be useless to the point where you would rather just field a HAV of your own? Remember when I also said that when this happens, I'll file a help ticket requesting 1B ISK and 2mil AUR along with a picture of me on the store front saying "I told you so?" Now I can honestly say, "I bloody well told you so". -HAND I told you so first, its even in my sig! Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
hgghyujh Expert Intervention Caldari State 189	Posted - 2013.12.16 01:28:00 - [22] - Quote Atiim wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: I get my way when AV has to use skill and not lock on shoot repeat blow up tank if you use tactics tanks are incredibly easy to kill. Umm, isn't that exactly how you use a turret? Oh and yes I forgot AV needs tactics now. And HAVs need: ... Hypocrite much? actually the same tactics AV needs, don't get me wrong av needs a buff, but I have been owned by straight AV many times and it was because AVers waited until I was out of position and then layed into me.
Alena Ventrallis Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 305	Posted - 2013.12.16 01:30:00 - [23] - Quote Links or it didn't happen.
Seymor Krelborn DUST University Ivy League 1557	Posted - 2013.12.16 01:31:00 - [24] - Quote Atiim wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Nope, still don't recall. Now your just being an idiot. link the post and shut these fools up atiim. CCp's newest joke, making setting off your own remote explosives in FW FF... awesome job ccp.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2124	Posted - 2013.12.16 02:01:00 - [25] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: HAV needs ground support so many swarmer's can hide behind a rock or mountain we can not climb so infantry eradicates them for us we are not invincible You know you cant use that excuse right ... tanks CAN now climb mountains and there isn't ANY infantry now because they are all in tanks . As far as not being invincible , well between armor hardeners and your speed ... oh yeah the nitro as well .. there is NOTHING that tanks can't do beside hack a null cannon and I'm sure that will be in 1.8 . LOL You don't even need to bother with Nullsec Cannons when you can easily butcher 150 clones. DUST 514 just went full COD. Never go full COD.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2124	Posted - 2013.12.16 02:04:00 - [26] - Quote Seymor Krelborn wrote: Atiim wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Nope, still don't recall. Now your just being an idiot. link the post and shut these fools up atiim. I'm fishing through General Disscusions for it now. I believe the thread was Titled "Tank 514". DUST 514 just went full COD. Never go full COD.
DeadlyAztec11 2789	Posted - 2013.12.16 02:10:00 - [27] - Quote I do 'member you spamming that a lot. I thought you were joking lol My alts: GeneralJohnRipper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Long Evity, CCP Rarara And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
Seymor Krelborn DUST University Ivy League 1567	Posted - 2013.12.16 02:16:00 - [28] - Quote Atiim wrote: Seymor Krelborn wrote: Atiim wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Nope, still don't recall. Now your just being an idiot. link the post and shut these fools up atiim. I'm fishing through General Disscusions for it now. I believe the thread was Titled "Tank 514". if it was your post click you name and click view posts... its a bit easier... even the search function if you remember the name. CCp's newest joke, making setting off your own remote explosives in FW FF... awesome job ccp.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2126	Posted - 2013.12.16 02:18:00 - [29] - Quote Seymor Krelborn wrote: Atiim wrote: Seymor Krelborn wrote: Atiim wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Nope, still don't recall. Now your just being an idiot. link the post and shut these fools up atiim. I'm fishing through General Disscusions for it now. I believe the thread was Titled "Tank 514". if it was your post click you name and click view posts... its a bit easier... even the search function if you remember the name. That's what I'm doing, but for some reason it's not showing up. But I'm currently at page 253, and I know I'm getting close. Plus, I said the same on various other threads anyway. Either shall do. :) DUST 514 just went full COD. Never go full COD.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4624	Posted - 2013.12.16 02:22:00 - [30] - Quote Almost like assault players crying they couldn't kill heavies in Chromosome... listening to the wrong people is making this game garbage in a hurry. Ever wonder why people enjoyed Chromosome more? Ever stop to think about that CCP? Uprising came along, and you CLEARLY listened to the wrong people in certain areas, and in other aspects listened to no one. ( ._.) <('.'<) "There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"

Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1887	Posted - 2013.12.16 02:23:00 - [31] - Quote Atiim wrote: Seymor Krelborn wrote: Atiim wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Nope, still don't recall. Now your just being an idiot. link the post and shut these fools up atiim. I'm fishing through General Disscusions for it now. I believe the thread was Titled "Tank 514". Search function... Level 1 Forum Warrior I'm a normal person, if I seem like a douche it's because I hate 90% of people on these forums
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1887	Posted - 2013.12.16 02:24:00 - [32] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Almost like assault players crying they couldn't kill heavies in Chromosome... listening to the wrong people is making this game garbage in a hurry. Ever wonder why people enjoyed Chromosome more? Ever stop to think about that CCP? Uprising came along, and you CLEARLY listened to the wrong people in certain areas, and in other aspects listened to no one. Yep and how's you're FG? Level 1 Forum Warrior I'm a normal person, if I seem like a douche it's because I hate 90% of people on these forums
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2128	Posted - 2013.12.16 02:30:00 - [33] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: I told you so first, its even in my sig! DUST 514 just went full COD. Never go full COD.
Lorhak Gannarsein 707	Posted - 2013.12.16 02:34:00 - [34] - Quote Atiim wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: HAV needs ground support so many swarmer's can hide behind a rock or mountain we can not climb so infantry eradicates them for us we are not invincible You know you cant use that excuse right ... tanks CAN now climb mountains and there isn't ANY infantry now because they are all in tanks . As far as not being invincible , well between armor hardeners and your speed ... oh yeah the nitro as well .. there is NOTHING that tanks can't do beside hack a null cannon and I'm sure that will be in 1.8 . LOL You don't even need to bother with Nullsec Cannons when you can easily butcher 150 clones. I was tank stomping with Jason Pearson in FW the other day. Between my proto rail and his missiles, we managed to keep the entire field clear of red tanks every match without fail. We'd switch to blasters and push the points once we had vehicle superiority. Out of ~10 matches, guess how many we won? SPOILER BELOW Two. >Cosgar: You know, tanks are actually paper thin once their modules are in cooldown.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2128	Posted - 2013.12.16 02:35:00 - [35] - Quote Found It! (And All I had to do was look at my favorites lol) Tank 514 Why Making Good AV Require Teamwork Is A Bad Idea DUST 514 just went full COD. Never go full COD.
Kaze Eyrou Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 412	Posted - 2013.12.16 02:41:00 - [36] - Quote ?? I'm confused... Tanks are easier to kill than ever!
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2134	Posted - 2013.12.16 03:24:00 - [37] - Quote Kaze Eyrou wrote: ?? I'm confused... Tanks are easier to kill than ever! No they aren't. It only seems that way because of all the idiots piloting them who don't even know how to activate the hardners. DUST 514 just went full COD. Never go full COD.
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 1664	Posted - 2013.12.16 03:25:00 - [38] - Quote No Going to stay out of AV/V debates, better for my sanity. GÿåTank driverGÿå
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 1664	Posted - 2013.12.16 03:26:00 - [39] - Quote Atiim wrote: Kaze Eyrou wrote: ?? I'm confused... Tanks are easier to kill than ever! No they aren't. It only seems that way because of all the idiots piloting them who don't even know how to activate the hardners. Is that a bad thing? Going to stay out of AV/V debates, better for my sanity. GÿåTank driverGÿå
Kaze Eyrou Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 412	Posted - 2013.12.16 03:27:00 - [40] - Quote Flix Keptick wrote: Atiim wrote: Kaze Eyrou wrote: ?? I'm confused... Tanks are easier to kill than ever! No they aren't. It only seems that way because of all the idiots piloting them who don't even know how to activate the hardners. Is that a bad thing? Of course not.

Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2754	Posted - 2013.12.16 03:28:00 - [41] - Quote Flix Keptick wrote: Is that a bad thing? It is when they actually decide to stop freeing their willy and hold R1 and flick the joystick. ...
Kaze Eyrou Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 412	Posted - 2013.12.29 15:02:00 - [42] - Quote Atiim wrote: Flix Keptick wrote: Is that a bad thing? It is when they actually decide to stop freeing their willy and hold R1 and flick the joystick. Meanwhile 10 R/Es and a Jeep say hi from behind...
Smooth Assassin Stardust incorporation 599	Posted - 2013.12.29 15:15:00 - [43] - Quote Yeah, i remember. *Assassination is my thing.*
GeneralButtNaked 656	Posted - 2013.12.29 15:16:00 - [44] - Quote I think we should at least acknowledge that Atiim was able to predict that he and many other awful FPS players would be unable to adapt or do something that required anything other than the medium frame. You really know your own limitations, and you share them with the rest of the cry babies. Get a forge, watch tanks pop. Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2756	Posted - 2013.12.29 20:37:00 - [45] - Quote GeneralButtNaked wrote: I think we should at least acknowledge that Atiim was able to predict that he and many other awful FPS players would be unable to adapt or do something that required anything other than the medium frame. You really know your own limitations, and you share them with the rest of the cry babies. Get a forge, watch tanks pop. I, nor should anyone be forced to skill into a Forge Gun just to deal with tanks. Go tell the kind folks in the Scout Registry to become a heavy with a Forge to deal with the Tanks and get back to me on that one. AV isn't FORGE MASTER RACE. Its SL=/=FG=/=PLC. Also, you and the rest of the LOLTank Brigade cried all through Uprising. Now you get to listen to AV. Deal With It. ...
Malek McRoland DUST University Ivy League 157	Posted - 2013.12.29 20:46:00 - [46] - Quote Atiim wrote: GeneralButtNaked wrote: I think we should at least acknowledge that Atiim was able to predict that he and many other awful FPS players would be unable to adapt or do something that required anything other than the medium frame. You really know your own limitations, and you share them with the rest of the cry babies. Get a forge, watch tanks pop. I, nor should anyone be forced to skill into a Forge Gun just to deal with tanks. Go tell the kind folks in the Scout Registry to become a heavy with a Forge to deal with the Tanks and get back to me on that one. AV isn't FORGE MASTER RACE. Its SL=/=FG=/=PLC. Also, you and the rest of the LOLTank Brigade cried all through Uprising. Now you get to listen to AV. Deal With It. LOLZ. Forge guns.....and all of AV for that matter Only AV that works are REs and PEs. Loyal Amarr and Caldari supporter Don't even start with AV and how tanks are not OP.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2766	Posted - 2013.12.30 02:02:00 - [47] - Quote Malek McRoland wrote: LOLZ. Forge guns.....and all of AV for that matter Only AV that works are REs and PEs. You know there is a problem when a MLT tank can survive Officer AV. ...
Rusty Shallows 613	Posted - 2013.12.30 03:13:00 - [48] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Almost like assault players crying they couldn't kill heavies in Chromosome... listening to the wrong people is making this game garbage in a hurry. Ever wonder why people enjoyed Chromosome more? Ever stop to think about that CCP? Uprising came along, and you CLEARLY listened to the wrong people in certain areas, and in other aspects listened to no one. Amen. It's easier to simplify the complaints rather than analyze a problem. So when many of us thought there needed to be some kind of buff because new HAV TCs were getting a raw deal it made sense to buff them all. When a few of us said don't buff/nerf at the same time while others said it had to be both naturally in CCP-world that meant they need to nerf things near useless. Lobbying worked. I'm not partial to lying like they did but If we complain long enough maybe HAVs can enough a malicious nerfing too. MCC Lounge Lizard Forums > Game Fix the game CCP
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1442	Posted - 2013.12.30 03:40:00 - [49] - Quote Fps players been warning about the dangers of steering this fps game away from a fps platform for a long time. against those that saw "dust is a fps" and nodded and began to push out any fps player that wanted FROM THE BEGINNING, ITS FPS CORE MECHANICS WORKING. Let the Fps players have a platform to perform their jobs for you eve pilots. but its like the tenant telling the contracter how he should go about fixing the damn sink. new players like in any other game (even mmo) coming into a fps genre will have to adapt. Dust is the first to try and adapt the game to the players that were not originally it's target audiences. How well that worked out huh? game started bleeding out and amiss the "it's summer. people are outside" "it's fall. people are working long hours, and school" "it's winter. people are on vacation" "the world ended. that's why we have so few players" still people can't get around why a fps game which strayed so far right is not doing well. but many warned of this. Tank spam was known to happen. I knew it would happen. but again my experience lies soly in fps games. like arma, and BF, and PS, unreal, warhawk, where you can have Havs on the field, but it would be balanced by the fact that you didn't need a whole 4 player squad to destroy one. Given worse the fact that any newb who never touched a fps game can kill seasoned fps players (with advanced gear) just by jumping into a tank! and for many why wouldn't they? they die less now. every review of dust won't be how this mmo is doing? or RTS. It willbe judged for what it is. a fps.
Void Echo Total Extinction 2304	Posted - 2013.12.30 04:00:00 - [50] - Quote its incredibly easy to kill off tanks, if the hardeners are down. now not every single brain dead ****** can kill a tank by himself with 3 AV grenades, now the average intelligence of Dust has been forced to increase to at least 70. with 5 REs, I can suicide any and every tank even when their hardeners are up and I do that because its funny as hell. then again, if I want to kill a tank without trolling or dying... il just set up a RE trap in the bridge map or sneak up behind one and place them in the back. Youtube Closed Beta Player I trust nobody but myself.

Malek McRoland DUST University Ivy League 162	Posted - 2013.12.30 04:17:00 - [51] - Quote Void Echo wrote: its incredibly easy to kill off tanks, if the hardeners are down. now not every single brain dead ****** can kill a tank by himself with 3 AV grenades, now the average intelligence of Dust has been forced to increase to at least 70. with 5 REs, I can suicide any and every tank even when their hardeners are up and I do that because its funny as hell. then again, if I want to kill a tank without trolling or dying... il just set up a RE trap in the bridge map or sneak up behind one and place them in the back. The whole point here is that AV is broken now. REs and PEs are effective, but they aren't dedicated AV weapons. They fill the gap, but true AV weapons are.....wait for it.....useless. USELESS. The 'wait for hardeners to deplete' debate is mute when AV can't do their job properly. Loyal Amarr and Caldari supporter Don't even start with AV and how tanks are not OP.
GeneralButtNaked 661	Posted - 2013.12.30 04:47:00 - [52] - Quote Malek McRoland wrote: The whole point here is that AV is broken now. REs and PEs are effective, but they aren't dedicated AV weapons. They fill the gap, but true AV weapons are.....wait for it.....useless. USELESS. The 'wait for hardeners to deplete' debate is mute when AV can't do their job properly. The forge gun works, although it needs the charge time reduced to 1.6 levels. If you can't use it, then you are bad. AV nades and Fluxes are still very effective, provided you don't think they should be enough to demolish a tank by themselves. That type of thinking is for lazy scrubs who got spoiled by OP AV. BTW, Flux grenades didn't get any sort of tone down, so enjoy using old strength nades on new strength tanks. Allotek fluxes to some funny things to tanks. The PLC is garbage, and needs serious help. No surprise there. Swarms are a scrub weapon, and those who specced into them should be deeply ashamed. As a punishment for your previous scrubbery, CCP has now turned your prized ezmode weapon into a backup role. That is exactly what you deserve for using a fire and forget weapon. Now go get better. The main AV weapon, the Forge, still works great. So do nades and fluxes. If your swarms are not keeping up, good, go learn to aim and get a real AV weapon. Which, until they buff the PLC is the FG. So either get one, and get good with it, or stop complaining because you are ineffective and won't do anything else but medium frame, swarms, nuclear baseballs, and when that doesn't work, you just cry like a girl with a scrapped knee. You and Atiim should both be ashamed of yourselves for spending so much time crying, but no time getting good. Hell, Atiim is so bad that he has gone broke using MLT tanks, even though he thinks they are invincible. Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
GeneralButtNaked 661	Posted - 2013.12.30 04:48:00 - [53] - Quote Atiim wrote: Malek McRoland wrote: LOLZ. Forge guns.....and all of AV for that matter Only AV that works are REs and PEs. You know there is a problem when a MLT tank can survive Officer AV. You don't have officer AV though, so you wouldn't have any idea what you are talking about. Just like always. Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2774	Posted - 2013.12.30 04:51:00 - [54] - Quote GeneralButtNaked wrote: Atiim wrote: Malek McRoland wrote: LOLZ. Forge guns.....and all of AV for that matter Only AV that works are REs and PEs. You know there is a problem when a MLT tank can survive Officer AV. You don't have officer AV though, so you wouldn't have any idea what you are talking about. Just like always. The Gatsun's Forge Gun. Now go erase DUST, for you clearly know nothing about AV, nor have even a remote clue of what your talking about in terms of V/AV. Just like always. ...
GeneralButtNaked 661	Posted - 2013.12.30 04:57:00 - [55] - Quote Atiim wrote: The Gatsun's Forge Gun. Now go erase DUST, for you clearly know nothing about AV, nor have even a remote clue of what your talking about in terms of V/AV. Just like always. So you specced into an officer forge? But yet you said this: Atiim wrote: I, nor should anyone be forced to skill into a Forge Gun just to deal with tanks. So which is it? Really though, if you can't take down a MLT tank with a Gastuns(spelled correctly, shocker!) Forge, then you need to just give up. Unlike you I actually have an Officer Forge, and have used it. Unlike you I kill tanks solo with my Forge, and don't break a sweat, you are just bad and want to blame everything but yourself for being garbage. Keep telling stories about how you unlocked all the AV and are the best with it all, but you can't even take down MLT tanks. Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2774	Posted - 2013.12.30 05:03:00 - [56] - Quote GeneralButtNaked wrote: Malek McRoland wrote: The whole point here is that AV is broken now. REs and PEs are effective, but they aren't dedicated AV weapons. They fill the gap, but true AV weapons are.....wait for it.....useless. USELESS. The 'wait for hardeners to deplete' debate is mute when AV can't do their job properly. The forge gun works, although it needs the charge time reduced to 1.6 levels. If you can't use it, then you are bad. AV nades and Fluxes are still very effective, provided you don't think they should be enough to demolish a tank by themselves. That type of thinking is for lazy scrubs who got spoiled by OP AV. BTW, Flux grenades didn't get any sort of tone down, so enjoy using old strength nades on new strength tanks. Allotek fluxes to some funny things to tanks. The PLC is garbage, and needs serious help. No surprise there. Swarms are a scrub weapon, and those who specced into them should be deeply ashamed. As a punishment for your previous scrubbery, CCP has now turned your prized ezmode weapon into a backup role. That is exactly what you deserve for using a fire and forget weapon. Now go get better. The main AV weapon, the Forge, still works great. So do nades and fluxes. If your swarms are not keeping up, good, go learn to aim and get a real AV weapon. Which, until they buff the PLC is the FG. So either get one, and get good with it, or stop complaining because you are ineffective and won't do anything else but medium frame, swarms, nuclear baseballs, and when that doesn't work, you just cry like a girl with a scrapped knee. You and Atiim should both be ashamed of yourselves for spending so much time crying, but no time getting good. Hell, Atiim is so bad that he has gone broke using MLT tanks, even though he thinks they are invincible. Wait. Let's analyze this for a second. Are you implying that piloting a tank requires skill? Not one single aspect of tanker does (or ever has) required any other skill beyond the activation of modules. You and almost every other tanker cried like a little girl with a scrapped knee about how Swarm Launchers could kill you. You exaggerated literally every detail possible (while also lying on a majority of them) every day since the start of Uprising. You spent literally no time adapting whatsoever. Now AV is doing the same . Deal With It. Also, AV is not FORGE MASTER RACE. It's SL=/=PLC=/=FG. You have no quote from CCP stating that FGs and PLCs were designed to be a better AV weapon than Swarm Launchers. So until you can supply one your ideal will be treated like a grain of salt, as it has the credibility of Wikipedia and Fox News. Also, I find it funny how you assume I went broke using MLT tanks. When in all actuality I have yet to lose my MLT tank to anything that isn't another tank or Railgun Turret in the redline. I think your post can be best summarized with this statement: Hypocrite Much? ...
Void Echo Total Extinction 2304	Posted - 2013.12.30 05:10:00 - [57] - Quote Malek McRoland wrote: Void Echo wrote: its incredibly easy to kill off tanks, if the hardeners are down. now not every single brain dead ****** can kill a tank by himself with 3 AV grenades, now the average intelligence of Dust has been forced to increase to at least 70. with 5 REs, I can suicide any and every tank even when their hardeners are up and I do that because its funny as hell. then again, if I want to kill a tank without trolling or dying... il just set up a RE trap in the bridge map or sneak up behind one and place them in the back. The whole point here is that AV is broken now. REs and PEs are effective, but they aren't dedicated AV weapons. They fill the gap, but true AV weapons are.....wait for it.....useless. USELESS. The 'wait for hardeners to deplete' debate is mute when AV can't do their job properly. its not my fault almost everyone here has the mindset of a 5 year old spoiled brat from call of duty, I know not everyone plays call of duty, but you would be fooled if you looked at everyone whos ever complained that something takes more than elementary mentality to kill. as a former rail tanker from closed beta to 1.7, I can tell you that tanks have had the screwed end of the deal fro over a year, now that AV has to deal with what they put tankers through for the past year, they don't like it.... oh irony thy name is dust 514. but seriously, tanks needed this in order to become a surviving class, now that they can survive we can begin to weed out all the weak tank drivers that are only interested in padding kd over actually helping the team. and I do mean the tank drivers that go into ambush and only play tanker, im also talking about tankers who have no business in it, those that don't use hardeners or anything that requires SP. if you want to kill a tank on by yourself, you better have the thinking capacity to do so, just walking up to one, and throwing grenades isn't going to do it anymore, adapt or die scrubs. militia tanks are overpowered, tanks cost too little now, their current price is what should have been before 1.7 Youtube Closed Beta Player I trust nobody but myself.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2775	Posted - 2013.12.30 05:18:00 - [58] - Quote GeneralButtNaked wrote: Atiim wrote: The Gatsun's Forge Gun. Now go erase DUST, for you clearly know nothing about AV, nor have even a remote clue of what your talking about in terms of V/AV. Just like always. So you specced into an officer forge? But yet you said this: Atiim wrote: I, nor should anyone be forced to skill into a Forge Gun just to deal with tanks. So which is it? Really though, if you can't take down a MLT tank with a Gastuns(spelled correctly, shocker!) Forge, then you need to just give up. Unlike you I actually have an Officer Forge, and have used it. Unlike you I kill tanks solo with my Forge, and don't break a sweat, you are just bad and want to blame everything but yourself for being garbage. Keep telling stories about how you unlocked all the AV and are the best with it all, but you can't even take down MLT tanks. You should really make what your saying clearer. When you said I don't have Officer AV i thought you meant Officer AV doesn't exist. But lets bite the apple anyway, shall we? I have an alt named Zepod. The alt has maxed out FGs. But his inventory does not have a Gatsun's Forge Gun. However, I myself have survived an entire match while being pounded with a Gatsun. I know it was a Gatsun because he killed the tank that was standing next to me. And that was with a MLT tank. I would hate to see the carnage I could create if I used an LP tank. As "being the very best at AV". I have maxed every AV weapon in DUST 514 besides the Plasma Cannon. And that's a work in progress. And truth be told, I have killed many if not entire armies of MLT tanks since 1.7. It's not that difficult when the person driving the MLT tank has no idea what they are doing. Which brings me back to my original point. I, nor anyone should be forced to skill into a heavy with a Forge Gun just for the ability to destroy a tank. Along with this, a tank requires no teamwork whatsoever in any condition, way, shape, or form. Because of this, AV should require no teamwork whatsoever in any condition, way, shape or form. Anyone who says otherwise is clearly a scrub looking to hop into a tank to become an easy win button. Not a tanker. Not that there's much of a difference really. ...
Blaze Ashra Ametat Security Amarr Empire 66	Posted - 2013.12.30 11:23:00 - [59] - Quote I don't mind that people are using tanks. Rail guns on the other hand...
Beld Errmon The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 1199	Posted - 2013.12.30 11:42:00 - [60] - Quote lol Atwits daily tank sooking thread, now with more sook. The only thing more sad than the nerf tank thread spam he puts out, is his blatant disregard for godwins law, you should throw some more "master race" comments around dude, totally makes your rabid arguments sound better, but shh don't anyone tell the lemmings that like his posts that hes actually a tanker.

Kierkegaard Soren Scions of Athra 62	Posted - 2013.12.30 12:18:00 - [61] - Quote I play a lot of ambush. So I see a lot of tank spam. I figured, as a commando dude/idiot, that my suits' time had come; finally, a chance to bring av to the field and be wanted! Rich pickings from the low hanging fruit of MLT tank spam! Uhh. Not quite. Listen. Tanks are no harder to kill now than they were before, truly. They just die to a different method. Whereas before you could solo a tank so long as you could stay alive long to hammer it with two clips of a swarm launcher, now you pretty much need to put all six missiles into the hull at the same time. Alpha damage is totally pivotal now. Plink away with one or two light AV options and all your doing is giving your position away. So teamwork is key. Is this good for the game? I guess so. I actually like tanks as they are right now. They're threatening to all tiers of infantry, and red-lining rail tank scumbags aside they are themselves threatened by dropships. I find the issue here is one of cost, and if the risk/reward ratio that is now bent all out if shape. Make losing two of them in the same match a real financial loss and spam tankers will think twice. As for the argument that infantry having to swap to AV and thus taking themselves "out of the match", two points: 1-tanks are in the match. Killing tanks and/or driving them away is a net gain to your team, on account that they no longer have to deal with blaster cannons melting them into slag. WP earned for damage to tanks and mobility kills will make AV a profitable career path for those that wish to choose it. 2-when you need healing, you ask for the logi. When you need an unkillable brick to defend or spearhead, you ask for the heavy. When you need to kill a heavy tank presence without sacrificing your teams anti infantry capability too much,nylon ask for the commando. Laughed at that last bit? Yeah, me too a bit. Buff that suit, make it viable, and see the useful AV fits it can bring to the team, because it's a tactical niche it was born to fill. But yeah. We got told. Go us. Dedicated Commando. So it's a good job KDR doesn't bother me, really.
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1444	Posted - 2013.12.30 12:39:00 - [62] - Quote Their is no version of this where tankers can say "tank spam are helping this game" Their is no way for them to spin the FACT that this is the least popular of the updates. No way they can say "numbers have not changed." go to eve-offline and look. Any further review of this game won't be done about "wow I really love what they did with tanks in this game" It will be judge as is. A FPS.


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