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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.12.16 02:23:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:Atiim wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Nope, still don't recall.
Now your just being an idiot. link the post and shut these fools up atiim. I'm fishing through General Disscusions for it now. I believe the thread was Titled "Tank 514". Search function...
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I'm a normal person, if I seem like a douche it's because I hate 90% of people on these forums
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.12.16 02:24:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Almost like assault players crying they couldn't kill heavies in Chromosome... listening to the wrong people is making this game garbage in a hurry. Ever wonder why people enjoyed Chromosome more? Ever stop to think about that CCP?
Uprising came along, and you CLEARLY listened to the wrong people in certain areas, and in other aspects listened to no one. Yep and how's you're FG?
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.16 02:30:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote: I told you so first, its even in my sig!
DUST 514 just went full COD.
Never go full COD.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
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Posted - 2013.12.16 02:34:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Benjamin Ciscko wrote:
HAV needs ground support so many swarmer's can hide behind a rock or mountain we can not climb so infantry eradicates them for us we are not invincible
You know you cant use that excuse right ... tanks CAN now climb mountains and there isn't ANY infantry now because they are all in tanks . As far as not being invincible , well between armor hardeners and your speed ... oh yeah the nitro as well .. there is NOTHING that tanks can't do beside hack a null cannon and I'm sure that will be in 1.8 . LOL You don't even need to bother with Nullsec Cannons when you can easily butcher 150 clones.
I was tank stomping with Jason Pearson in FW the other day. Between my proto rail and his missiles, we managed to keep the entire field clear of red tanks every match without fail. We'd switch to blasters and push the points once we had vehicle superiority.
Out of ~10 matches, guess how many we won?
SPOILER BELOW
Two.
>Cosgar: You know, tanks are actually paper thin once their modules are in cooldown.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.16 02:35:00 -
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Found It! (And All I had to do was look at my favorites lol)
Tank 514
Why Making Good AV Require Teamwork Is A Bad Idea
DUST 514 just went full COD.
Never go full COD.
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Kaze Eyrou
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.16 02:41:00 -
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??
I'm confused...
Tanks are easier to kill than ever! |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.16 03:24:00 -
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Kaze Eyrou wrote:?? I'm confused... Tanks are easier to kill than ever! No they aren't.
It only seems that way because of all the idiots piloting them who don't even know how to activate the hardners.
DUST 514 just went full COD.
Never go full COD.
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Flix Keptick
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.12.16 03:25:00 -
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No
Going to stay out of AV/V debates, better for my sanity.
G˙åTank driverG˙å
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Flix Keptick
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.12.16 03:26:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Kaze Eyrou wrote:?? I'm confused... Tanks are easier to kill than ever! No they aren't. It only seems that way because of all the idiots piloting them who don't even know how to activate the hardners. Is that a bad thing?
Going to stay out of AV/V debates, better for my sanity.
G˙åTank driverG˙å
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Kaze Eyrou
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
412
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Posted - 2013.12.16 03:27:00 -
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Flix Keptick wrote:Atiim wrote:Kaze Eyrou wrote:?? I'm confused... Tanks are easier to kill than ever! No they aren't. It only seems that way because of all the idiots piloting them who don't even know how to activate the hardners. Is that a bad thing? Of course not. |
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.16 03:28:00 -
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Flix Keptick wrote: Is that a bad thing? It is when they actually decide to stop freeing their willy and hold R1 and flick the joystick.
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Kaze Eyrou
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
412
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Posted - 2013.12.29 15:02:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Flix Keptick wrote: Is that a bad thing? It is when they actually decide to stop freeing their willy and hold R1 and flick the joystick. Meanwhile 10 R/Es and a Jeep say hi from behind...
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
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Posted - 2013.12.29 15:15:00 -
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Yeah, i remember.
Assassination is my thing.
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GeneralButtNaked
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Posted - 2013.12.29 15:16:00 -
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I think we should at least acknowledge that Atiim was able to predict that he and many other awful FPS players would be unable to adapt or do something that required anything other than the medium frame.
You really know your own limitations, and you share them with the rest of the cry babies.
Get a forge, watch tanks pop.
Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.29 20:37:00 -
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GeneralButtNaked wrote:I think we should at least acknowledge that Atiim was able to predict that he and many other awful FPS players would be unable to adapt or do something that required anything other than the medium frame.
You really know your own limitations, and you share them with the rest of the cry babies.
Get a forge, watch tanks pop. I, nor should anyone be forced to skill into a Forge Gun just to deal with tanks. Go tell the kind folks in the Scout Registry to become a heavy with a Forge to deal with the Tanks and get back to me on that one.
AV isn't FORGE MASTER RACE. Its SL=/=FG=/=PLC.
Also, you and the rest of the LOLTank Brigade cried all through Uprising. Now you get to listen to AV.
Deal With It.
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Malek McRoland
DUST University Ivy League
157
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Posted - 2013.12.29 20:46:00 -
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Atiim wrote:GeneralButtNaked wrote:I think we should at least acknowledge that Atiim was able to predict that he and many other awful FPS players would be unable to adapt or do something that required anything other than the medium frame.
You really know your own limitations, and you share them with the rest of the cry babies.
Get a forge, watch tanks pop. I, nor should anyone be forced to skill into a Forge Gun just to deal with tanks. Go tell the kind folks in the Scout Registry to become a heavy with a Forge to deal with the Tanks and get back to me on that one. AV isn't FORGE MASTER RACE. Its SL=/=FG=/=PLC. Also, you and the rest of the LOLTank Brigade cried all through Uprising. Now you get to listen to AV. Deal With It.
LOLZ. Forge guns.....and all of AV for that matter
Only AV that works are REs and PEs.
Loyal Amarr and Caldari supporter
Don't even start with AV and how tanks are not OP.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.30 02:02:00 -
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Malek McRoland wrote: LOLZ. Forge guns.....and all of AV for that matter
Only AV that works are REs and PEs.
You know there is a problem when a MLT tank can survive Officer AV.
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Rusty Shallows
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Posted - 2013.12.30 03:13:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Almost like assault players crying they couldn't kill heavies in Chromosome... listening to the wrong people is making this game garbage in a hurry. Ever wonder why people enjoyed Chromosome more? Ever stop to think about that CCP?
Uprising came along, and you CLEARLY listened to the wrong people in certain areas, and in other aspects listened to no one. Amen.
It's easier to simplify the complaints rather than analyze a problem. So when many of us thought there needed to be some kind of buff because new HAV TCs were getting a raw deal it made sense to buff them all. When a few of us said don't buff/nerf at the same time while others said it had to be both naturally in CCP-world that meant they need to nerf things near useless.
Lobbying worked. I'm not partial to lying like they did but If we complain long enough maybe HAVs can enough a malicious nerfing too.
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Forums > Game
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Demon Ronin
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Posted - 2013.12.30 03:40:00 -
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Fps players been warning about the dangers of steering this fps game away from a fps platform for a long time.
against those that saw "dust is a fps" and nodded and began to push out any fps player that wanted FROM THE BEGINNING, ITS FPS CORE MECHANICS WORKING.
Let the Fps players have a platform to perform their jobs for you eve pilots. but its like the tenant telling the contracter how he should go about fixing the damn sink. new players like in any other game (even mmo) coming into a fps genre will have to adapt.
Dust is the first to try and adapt the game to the players that were not originally it's target audiences. How well that worked out huh?
game started bleeding out and amiss the "it's summer. people are outside" "it's fall. people are working long hours, and school" "it's winter. people are on vacation" "the world ended. that's why we have so few players"
still people can't get around why a fps game which strayed so far right is not doing well. but many warned of this. Tank spam was known to happen. I knew it would happen. but again my experience lies soly in fps games. like arma, and BF, and PS, unreal, warhawk, where you can have Havs on the field, but it would be balanced by the fact that you didn't need a whole 4 player squad to destroy one.
Given worse the fact that any newb who never touched a fps game can kill seasoned fps players (with advanced gear) just by jumping into a tank! and for many why wouldn't they? they die less now.
every review of dust won't be how this mmo is doing? or RTS. It willbe judged for what it is. a fps.
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Void Echo
Total Extinction
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Posted - 2013.12.30 04:00:00 -
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its incredibly easy to kill off tanks, if the hardeners are down.
now not every single brain dead ****** can kill a tank by himself with 3 AV grenades, now the average intelligence of Dust has been forced to increase to at least 70.
with 5 REs, I can suicide any and every tank even when their hardeners are up and I do that because its funny as hell. then again, if I want to kill a tank without trolling or dying... il just set up a RE trap in the bridge map or sneak up behind one and place them in the back.
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Malek McRoland
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.12.30 04:17:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:its incredibly easy to kill off tanks, if the hardeners are down.
now not every single brain dead ****** can kill a tank by himself with 3 AV grenades, now the average intelligence of Dust has been forced to increase to at least 70.
with 5 REs, I can suicide any and every tank even when their hardeners are up and I do that because its funny as hell. then again, if I want to kill a tank without trolling or dying... il just set up a RE trap in the bridge map or sneak up behind one and place them in the back.
The whole point here is that AV is broken now. REs and PEs are effective, but they aren't dedicated AV weapons. They fill the gap, but true AV weapons are.....wait for it.....useless. USELESS. The 'wait for hardeners to deplete' debate is mute when AV can't do their job properly.
Loyal Amarr and Caldari supporter
Don't even start with AV and how tanks are not OP.
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GeneralButtNaked
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Posted - 2013.12.30 04:47:00 -
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Malek McRoland wrote: The whole point here is that AV is broken now. REs and PEs are effective, but they aren't dedicated AV weapons. They fill the gap, but true AV weapons are.....wait for it.....useless. USELESS. The 'wait for hardeners to deplete' debate is mute when AV can't do their job properly.
The forge gun works, although it needs the charge time reduced to 1.6 levels. If you can't use it, then you are bad.
AV nades and Fluxes are still very effective, provided you don't think they should be enough to demolish a tank by themselves. That type of thinking is for lazy scrubs who got spoiled by OP AV. BTW, Flux grenades didn't get any sort of tone down, so enjoy using old strength nades on new strength tanks. Allotek fluxes to some funny things to tanks.
The PLC is garbage, and needs serious help. No surprise there.
Swarms are a scrub weapon, and those who specced into them should be deeply ashamed. As a punishment for your previous scrubbery, CCP has now turned your prized ezmode weapon into a backup role. That is exactly what you deserve for using a fire and forget weapon. Now go get better.
The main AV weapon, the Forge, still works great. So do nades and fluxes.
If your swarms are not keeping up, good, go learn to aim and get a real AV weapon. Which, until they buff the PLC is the FG. So either get one, and get good with it, or stop complaining because you are ineffective and won't do anything else but medium frame, swarms, nuclear baseballs, and when that doesn't work, you just cry like a girl with a scrapped knee.
You and Atiim should both be ashamed of yourselves for spending so much time crying, but no time getting good.
Hell, Atiim is so bad that he has gone broke using MLT tanks, even though he thinks they are invincible.
Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
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GeneralButtNaked
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Posted - 2013.12.30 04:48:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Malek McRoland wrote: LOLZ. Forge guns.....and all of AV for that matter
Only AV that works are REs and PEs.
You know there is a problem when a MLT tank can survive Officer AV.
You don't have officer AV though, so you wouldn't have any idea what you are talking about.
Just like always.
Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.30 04:51:00 -
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GeneralButtNaked wrote:Atiim wrote:Malek McRoland wrote: LOLZ. Forge guns.....and all of AV for that matter
Only AV that works are REs and PEs.
You know there is a problem when a MLT tank can survive Officer AV. You don't have officer AV though, so you wouldn't have any idea what you are talking about. Just like always. The Gatsun's Forge Gun.
Now go erase DUST, for you clearly know nothing about AV, nor have even a remote clue of what your talking about in terms of V/AV.
Just like always.
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GeneralButtNaked
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Posted - 2013.12.30 04:57:00 -
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Atiim wrote: The Gatsun's Forge Gun.
Now go erase DUST, for you clearly know nothing about AV, nor have even a remote clue of what your talking about in terms of V/AV.
Just like always.
So you specced into an officer forge?
But yet you said this:
Atiim wrote: I, nor should anyone be forced to skill into a Forge Gun just to deal with tanks.
So which is it?
Really though, if you can't take down a MLT tank with a Gastuns(spelled correctly, shocker!) Forge, then you need to just give up.
Unlike you I actually have an Officer Forge, and have used it. Unlike you I kill tanks solo with my Forge, and don't break a sweat, you are just bad and want to blame everything but yourself for being garbage.
Keep telling stories about how you unlocked all the AV and are the best with it all, but you can't even take down MLT tanks.
Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.30 05:03:00 -
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GeneralButtNaked wrote:Malek McRoland wrote: The whole point here is that AV is broken now. REs and PEs are effective, but they aren't dedicated AV weapons. They fill the gap, but true AV weapons are.....wait for it.....useless. USELESS. The 'wait for hardeners to deplete' debate is mute when AV can't do their job properly.
The forge gun works, although it needs the charge time reduced to 1.6 levels. If you can't use it, then you are bad. AV nades and Fluxes are still very effective, provided you don't think they should be enough to demolish a tank by themselves. That type of thinking is for lazy scrubs who got spoiled by OP AV. BTW, Flux grenades didn't get any sort of tone down, so enjoy using old strength nades on new strength tanks. Allotek fluxes to some funny things to tanks. The PLC is garbage, and needs serious help. No surprise there. Swarms are a scrub weapon, and those who specced into them should be deeply ashamed. As a punishment for your previous scrubbery, CCP has now turned your prized ezmode weapon into a backup role. That is exactly what you deserve for using a fire and forget weapon. Now go get better. The main AV weapon, the Forge, still works great. So do nades and fluxes. If your swarms are not keeping up, good, go learn to aim and get a real AV weapon. Which, until they buff the PLC is the FG. So either get one, and get good with it, or stop complaining because you are ineffective and won't do anything else but medium frame, swarms, nuclear baseballs, and when that doesn't work, you just cry like a girl with a scrapped knee. You and Atiim should both be ashamed of yourselves for spending so much time crying, but no time getting good. Hell, Atiim is so bad that he has gone broke using MLT tanks, even though he thinks they are invincible. Wait. Let's analyze this for a second.
Are you implying that piloting a tank requires skill? Not one single aspect of tanker does (or ever has) required any other skill beyond the activation of modules.
You and almost every other tanker cried like a little girl with a scrapped knee about how Swarm Launchers could kill you. You exaggerated literally every detail possible (while also lying on a majority of them) every day since the start of Uprising. You spent literally no time adapting whatsoever. Now AV is doing the same .
Deal With It.
Also, AV is not FORGE MASTER RACE. It's SL=/=PLC=/=FG. You have no quote from CCP stating that FGs and PLCs were designed to be a better AV weapon than Swarm Launchers. So until you can supply one your ideal will be treated like a grain of salt, as it has the credibility of Wikipedia and Fox News.
Also, I find it funny how you assume I went broke using MLT tanks. When in all actuality I have yet to lose my MLT tank to anything that isn't another tank or Railgun Turret in the redline.
I think your post can be best summarized with this statement:
Hypocrite Much?
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Void Echo
Total Extinction
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Posted - 2013.12.30 05:10:00 -
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Malek McRoland wrote:Void Echo wrote:its incredibly easy to kill off tanks, if the hardeners are down.
now not every single brain dead ****** can kill a tank by himself with 3 AV grenades, now the average intelligence of Dust has been forced to increase to at least 70.
with 5 REs, I can suicide any and every tank even when their hardeners are up and I do that because its funny as hell. then again, if I want to kill a tank without trolling or dying... il just set up a RE trap in the bridge map or sneak up behind one and place them in the back. The whole point here is that AV is broken now. REs and PEs are effective, but they aren't dedicated AV weapons. They fill the gap, but true AV weapons are.....wait for it.....useless. USELESS. The 'wait for hardeners to deplete' debate is mute when AV can't do their job properly.
its not my fault almost everyone here has the mindset of a 5 year old spoiled brat from call of duty, I know not everyone plays call of duty, but you would be fooled if you looked at everyone whos ever complained that something takes more than elementary mentality to kill.
as a former rail tanker from closed beta to 1.7, I can tell you that tanks have had the screwed end of the deal fro over a year, now that AV has to deal with what they put tankers through for the past year, they don't like it.... oh irony thy name is dust 514.
but seriously, tanks needed this in order to become a surviving class, now that they can survive we can begin to weed out all the weak tank drivers that are only interested in padding kd over actually helping the team.
and I do mean the tank drivers that go into ambush and only play tanker, im also talking about tankers who have no business in it, those that don't use hardeners or anything that requires SP.
if you want to kill a tank on by yourself, you better have the thinking capacity to do so, just walking up to one, and throwing grenades isn't going to do it anymore, adapt or die scrubs.
militia tanks are overpowered, tanks cost too little now, their current price is what should have been before 1.7
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.30 05:18:00 -
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GeneralButtNaked wrote:Atiim wrote: The Gatsun's Forge Gun.
Now go erase DUST, for you clearly know nothing about AV, nor have even a remote clue of what your talking about in terms of V/AV.
Just like always.
So you specced into an officer forge? But yet you said this: Atiim wrote: I, nor should anyone be forced to skill into a Forge Gun just to deal with tanks.
So which is it? Really though, if you can't take down a MLT tank with a Gastuns(spelled correctly, shocker!) Forge, then you need to just give up. Unlike you I actually have an Officer Forge, and have used it. Unlike you I kill tanks solo with my Forge, and don't break a sweat, you are just bad and want to blame everything but yourself for being garbage. Keep telling stories about how you unlocked all the AV and are the best with it all, but you can't even take down MLT tanks. You should really make what your saying clearer. When you said I don't have Officer AV i thought you meant Officer AV doesn't exist. But lets bite the apple anyway, shall we?
I have an alt named Zepod. The alt has maxed out FGs. But his inventory does not have a Gatsun's Forge Gun.
However, I myself have survived an entire match while being pounded with a Gatsun. I know it was a Gatsun because he killed the tank that was standing next to me. And that was with a MLT tank. I would hate to see the carnage I could create if I used an LP tank.
As "being the very best at AV". I have maxed every AV weapon in DUST 514 besides the Plasma Cannon. And that's a work in progress.
And truth be told, I have killed many if not entire armies of MLT tanks since 1.7. It's not that difficult when the person driving the MLT tank has no idea what they are doing.
Which brings me back to my original point. I, nor anyone should be forced to skill into a heavy with a Forge Gun just for the ability to destroy a tank. Along with this, a tank requires no teamwork whatsoever in any condition, way, shape, or form. Because of this, AV should require no teamwork whatsoever in any condition, way, shape or form. Anyone who says otherwise is clearly a scrub looking to hop into a tank to become an easy win button. Not a tanker.
Not that there's much of a difference really.
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Blaze Ashra
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
66
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Posted - 2013.12.30 11:23:00 -
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I don't mind that people are using tanks. Rail guns on the other hand... |
Beld Errmon
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
1199
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Posted - 2013.12.30 11:42:00 -
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lol Atwits daily tank sooking thread, now with more sook.
The only thing more sad than the nerf tank thread spam he puts out, is his blatant disregard for godwins law, you should throw some more "master race" comments around dude, totally makes your rabid arguments sound better, but shh don't anyone tell the lemmings that like his posts that hes actually a tanker. |
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