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Aisha Ctarl
Scions of Athra
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Posted - 2013.12.15 00:41:00 -
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You all should know by now I bleed gold for the Amarr so I use Amarrian everything. Lately I've come to notice that the scrambler just doesn't seem to pack the punch it once had. Even with two complex damage mods, I'm getting people down to nearly no armor for them just to get away before I can actually kill them.
Is it just me, or does the scrambler seem weaker to anyone else?
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
-The Code of Demeanor
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DeadlyAztec11
2776
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Posted - 2013.12.15 00:43:00 -
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You are now facing the Minmatar with the CR, nuff said.
Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
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Tectonic Fusion
718
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Posted - 2013.12.15 00:43:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:You all should know by now I bleed gold for the Amarr so I use Amarrian everything. Lately I've come to notice that the scrambler just doesn't seem to pack the punch it once had. Even with two complex damage mods, I'm getting people down to nearly no armor for them just to get away before I can actually kill them.
Is it just me, or does the scrambler seem weaker to anyone else?
Headshot 480% FTW! But I am killing just fine with it next to my combat rifle 
Solo Player
Squad status: Locked
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
1928
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Posted - 2013.12.15 00:45:00 -
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I thought it got a Dmg buff, I was literally 85m away from a heavy, and I took him down to 1/4 armour with less than half a clip of my viziam (no Dmg mods were used)
"It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
I'll take your Iskies
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Justin Tymes
Dem Durrty Boyz
Renegade Alliance
551
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Posted - 2013.12.15 00:47:00 -
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Do non-rifle weapons feel weaker? Alot more than SCR. |
Aisha Ctarl
Scions of Athra
2229
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Posted - 2013.12.15 00:49:00 -
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Well maybe I'm just facing unusually armor tanked enemies, but for some reason I'm having a hell of a time cutting through armor lately.
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
-The Code of Demeanor
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RED FARM
GOOD OL' B0YS
29
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Posted - 2013.12.15 00:49:00 -
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It really has a lot of upward creep while firing the semi rapidly and no skills to counter. So, it feels weak and unusable. |
Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
501
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Posted - 2013.12.15 00:51:00 -
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I think the parity in standard racial weapons kinda gives you a subjective feel that the SCR was nerfed. I was a SCR user pret heavily till my Caldari rail came out and my feeling is that they are both equally effective. The other thing that's going on is the engagement ranges are definetly stretching out with the RR and CR...SCR can't dominate beyond 50m anymore. |
Darth-Carbonite GIO
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
292
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Posted - 2013.12.15 00:54:00 -
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I haven't noticed any changeGǪGǪ. Except for the range increase 
Preeminent Scrambler Rifle User & Dropship Enthusiast
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
2632
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Posted - 2013.12.15 01:00:00 -
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You got a range buff, but no zoom buff, making it useless. Now it has to compete at close quarters, where it used to be OP, but the new rifles are just as imbalanced.
No.
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RED FARM
GOOD OL' B0YS
29
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Posted - 2013.12.15 01:31:00 -
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Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:I think the parity in standard racial weapons kinda gives you a subjective feel that the SCR was nerfed. I was a SCR user pret heavily till my Caldari rail came out and my feeling is that they are both equally effective. The other thing that's going on is the engagement ranges are definetly stretching out with the RR and CR...SCR can't dominate beyond 50m anymore.
Yup, at range the RR will crush the scr due to upward creep. Good point about 50m. |
Viktor Hadah Jr
0uter.Heaven
Proficiency V.
1474
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Posted - 2013.12.15 01:32:00 -
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My gameplay feels a bit different but i don't think it's because of my scrambler rifle.
Amarr
My OB Kills
Selling Templar BPO
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Bojo The Mighty
Zanzibar Concept
2378
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Posted - 2013.12.15 02:59:00 -
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The SCR looks weaker....
There's a glitch where a charged shot looks like a regular shot. |
Mac Dac
Wraith Shadow Guards
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
361
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Posted - 2013.12.15 03:22:00 -
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yeah these scrambler rifles are hardly seen along with ARs. I actually was surprised to see a SR on the field today. however he was murdered by a rail rifle.
"We should take care not to make intellect our god; it has, of course, strong muscles, but no personality" Albert Einste
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KING CHECKMATE
Scions of Athra
3167
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Posted - 2013.12.15 03:28:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:You all should know by now I bleed gold for the Amarr so I use Amarrian everything. Lately I've come to notice that the scrambler just doesn't seem to pack the punch it once had. Even with two complex damage mods, I'm getting people down to nearly no armor for them just to get away before I can actually kill them.
Is it just me, or does the scrambler seem weaker to anyone else?
Its not weaker.
SCR is as strong as ever, just each weapons strengths are felt more.
GÖªAt longer ranges the RR will probably win, with constant precise fire
GÖªAt CQ,the AR is still king.
GÖªAt medium range, the Combar rifle wont feel too powerfull compared to the SCR,until you realize that its firing almost as strong a the SCR (STD Combat rifle with 1 Cx dam mod is about 105 per BURST) and you are already out of shields.....
Still, a charged shot of the SCR with follow up shots will win at ANY range (in its optimal range radius) vs any other weapon in a 1 on 1 scenario.
the only thing that puts the SCR a little lower in the Rifle ranks is:
Only rifle with a 80% effectiveness against something
Overheat mechanic, the worst of all ''penalties''
Unfairly high CPU-PG needs.
But the SCR does not feel WEAKER , just the need to use charged shots and aim better is stronger, since pretty much EVERY OTHER rifle has better hip-fire and Spray and pray capacities...
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Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F
Public Disorder.
2177
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Posted - 2013.12.15 03:31:00 -
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weaker
just like the ammar
GǃIf I ate myself would I become twice as big or disappear?" -Draxus Prime
Closed Beta/EVE/MAG Vet
Minja/Logi
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Ryder Azorria
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
730
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Posted - 2013.12.15 03:34:00 -
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Mac Dac wrote:yeah these scrambler rifles are hardly seen along with ARs. I actually was surprised to see a SR on the field today. however he was murdered by a rail rifle.
Still seeing (and getting killed by) plenty of ARs, but your right about the Scramblers - can't remember dying to one since 1.7. |
pyramidhead 420
Carbon 7
CRONOS.
231
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Posted - 2013.12.15 03:34:00 -
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its new beast mode gun week. everything pails to the 2 new toys on the market atm.
honestly tho...my templar still feels op as ever :) |
8213
BIG BAD W0LVES
1055
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Posted - 2013.12.15 04:12:00 -
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Seemed weak.
What I could once do with CRW + 2 modz seems to take my Imperial + 3 modz...
But I'm diggin' the CR and RR. They added balance to the primary light weapons catagory. A rock, paper, scissors balance that works.
The RR owns me at range and the CR owns me CQC. My SCR doesn't dominate like it used to(granted Im an aim legend) I need to better think my engagments and position myself better. |
DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2013.12.15 04:12:00 -
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Draxus Prime wrote:weaker
just like the ammar
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! >:O
He called out your mommaaaaaaa!
Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
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Flix Keptick
Red Star.
EoN.
1650
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Posted - 2013.12.15 04:14:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:Do non-rifle weapons feel weaker? Alot more than SCR. They feel completely useless compared to the rifles
Making AV an actual role
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KING CHECKMATE
Scions of Athra
3179
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Posted - 2013.12.15 04:19:00 -
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Flix Keptick wrote:Justin Tymes wrote:Do non-rifle weapons feel weaker? Alot more than SCR. They feel completely useless compared to the rifles
Let me tell you .My SMG's still get the job done.
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GRIM GEAR
NECROM0NGERS
Covert Intervention
133
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Posted - 2013.12.15 04:20:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:You all should know by now I bleed gold for the Amarr so I use Amarrian everything. Lately I've come to notice that the scrambler just doesn't seem to pack the punch it once had. Even with two complex damage mods, I'm getting people down to nearly no armor for them just to get away before I can actually kill them.
Is it just me, or does the scrambler seem weaker to anyone else?
I have noticed that you can now get more shot's off before your scrambler rifle over heats, not that it has any relevance to this thread.
Where was i, oh yeah i think you may be right the scrabler pistol seems to pack less punch if your not aiming for your targets head.
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No it's a plane!
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