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Necandi Brasil
DUST BRASIL S.A
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.12.14 14:51:00 -
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Fellow mercs,
We still dream of having 48 players in a battle,
We still dream of having PvE,
We still dream of having full racial variety...
We stil dream of ARENA mode
We still dream of MAV's and MTAC's.
But, what's happening ? Seems like they are having a really hard time adding new stuff to this game ...
Is the PS3 hardware curently a limitation?
Is the small playerbase holding PvE ?
What's going on ?
We need to find a solution (CCP + Comunity).
Can we have a clearer picture of the dificulties that Dev's are having ? Maybe we can help them search for the correct solution, afterall, 30-40 Devs (dunno the exact number) are not smarter then 10.000 players (Even if they are completly stupid, like Minmatars  )
A DUST BRASIL S.A precisa de você ! Junte-se a nós !
Hey CCP, give me PvE!
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Necandi Brasil
DUST BRASIL S.A
Covert Intervention
543
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Posted - 2013.12.15 02:03:00 -
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Well seems like this isn't a problem afterall...
A DUST BRASIL S.A precisa de você ! Junte-se a nós !
Hey CCP, give me PvE!
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
2058
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Posted - 2013.12.15 02:06:00 -
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The Minmatar? Stupid?
Do you even play FW? We OWN FW?
Anyways, much as to do with the PS3's hardware limitations.
And then there is Sony.
Plus, as a student in Computer Science, I can tell you that programming is very hard work, and despite popular belief you can't just start typing stuff and be done with.
Be patient.
DUST 514 just went full COD.
Never go full COD.
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Ryder Azorria
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
729
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Posted - 2013.12.15 02:09:00 -
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They spent the last 7 months fixing what they already had - that's what happened. (not saying it didn't need fixed mind you)
1.7 is (theoretically) the first of the many 'new stuff' builds |
Goro Scornshard
DUST University
Ivy League
46
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Posted - 2013.12.15 02:11:00 -
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Atiim wrote:
Plus, as a student in Computer Science, I can tell you that programming is very hard work, and despite popular belief you can't just start typing stuff and be done with.
Be patient.
Exactly, I think you overestimate how large a company CCP is.
Don't hate the game hate the player
GÖæ
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
1277
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Posted - 2013.12.15 02:14:00 -
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Necandi Brasil wrote:Fellow mercs, We still dream of having 48 players in a battle, We still dream of having PvE, We still dream of having full racial variety... We stil dream of ARENA mode We still dream of MAV's and MTAC's. But, what's happening ? Seems like they are having a really hard time adding new stuff to this game ... Is the PS3 hardware curently a limitation? Is the small playerbase holding PvE ? What's going on ? We need to find a solution (CCP + Comunity). Can we have a clearer picture of the dificulties that Dev's are having ? Maybe we can help them search for the correct solution, afterall, 30-40 Devs (dunno the exact number) are not smarter then 10.000 players (Even if they are completly stupid, like Minmatars )
I would give you at least a +10.
I think the main problem is not the ps3 itself, it's how difficult and "strange" for the vast majority of devs its architecture is.
Certainly , moving on ps4 would solve this problem, but as far as I know, they have no intention for the near future, and of course, not everyone would buy a ps4 after they spent money on this, so just imagine the rage on the forums...and the rage of Eve players who bought a ps3 just for Dust.
In my opinion, PVE would give a boost, but first off, this game needs to solve some really old problems (framerate, lag etc)
Tank 514.
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Necandi Brasil
DUST BRASIL S.A
Covert Intervention
545
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Posted - 2013.12.15 02:27:00 -
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Atiim wrote:The Minmatar? Stupid?
Do you even play FW? We OWN FW?
Anyways, much as to do with the PS3's hardware limitations.
And then there is Sony.
Plus, as a student in Computer Science, I can tell you that programming is very hard work, and despite popular belief you can't just start typing stuff and be done with.
Be patient.
My Minmatar reference is only a superficial bad trollin,
I know programming is really hard work, that's why I want to help if they need some (Even if I can't do much programming myself). But are these issues temporary ? Will they run out of "Hardware " with the PS3 ?
I know there are limitations, I just want to the what are they
A DUST BRASIL S.A precisa de você ! Junte-se a nós !
Hey CCP, give me PvE!
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4447
Resolution XIII
944
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Posted - 2013.12.15 02:32:00 -
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Atiim wrote:The Minmatar? Stupid?
Do you even play FW? We OWN FW?
Anyways, much as to do with the PS3's hardware limitations.
And then there is Sony.
Plus, as a student in Computer Science, I can tell you that programming is very hard work, and despite popular belief you can't just start typing stuff and be done with.
Be patient.
oishgsdgsddgso;gj;d;jvdhfghsdio;hg;sdhghoishg;oihsaio;g
That was easy.
Troll, For lifeGǪ But maybe a dragon, uh a bigger dragon.
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4447
Resolution XIII
944
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Posted - 2013.12.15 02:33:00 -
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Necandi Brasil wrote:Atiim wrote:The Minmatar? Stupid?
Do you even play FW? We OWN FW?
Anyways, much as to do with the PS3's hardware limitations.
And then there is Sony.
Plus, as a student in Computer Science, I can tell you that programming is very hard work, and despite popular belief you can't just start typing stuff and be done with.
Be patient. My Minmatar reference is only a superficial bad trollin, I know programming is really hard work, that's why I want to help if they need some (Even if I can't do much programming myself). But are these issues temporary ? Will they run out of "Hardware " with the PS3 ? I know there are limitations, I just want to the what are they
RAM, RAM,RAM,RAM,RAM,RAM,RAM,RAM,RAM.
Troll, For lifeGǪ But maybe a dragon, uh a bigger dragon.
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Mad Mav
DUST University
Ivy League
274
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Posted - 2013.12.15 02:42:00 -
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Necandi Brasil wrote:
We still dream of MAV's
*Waves*
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
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fawkuima juggalo
Eternal Beings
229
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Posted - 2013.12.15 02:50:00 -
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CONSPIRACY WILL BE REVEALED.....
..... SOON Gäó
Dropship auto leveling and THE SOLUTION
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2Berries
Red Star Jr.
EoN.
14
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Posted - 2013.12.15 02:59:00 -
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Yup, still new.
What is MAV & MTAC? |
Goro Scornshard
DUST University
Ivy League
46
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Posted - 2013.12.15 03:04:00 -
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Well I know what one of those is,
The MTAC is a robotic exoskeleton like in Aliens and Avatar.
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/MTAC
Don't hate the game hate the player
GÖæ
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
1280
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Posted - 2013.12.15 03:10:00 -
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2Berries wrote:Yup, still new.
What is MAV & MTAC?
MAV is the Medium Assault Vehicle:
at the fanfest they showed some concepts.
Tank 514.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
2073
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Posted - 2013.12.15 03:17:00 -
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4447 wrote:
oishgsdgsddgso;gj;d;jvdhfghsdio;hg;sdhghoishg;oihsaio;g
That was easy.
Okay fine.
Now create a Java program that asks the user to input 4 numbers and then finds the following.
- Sum
- Difference
- Product
- Dividend
- Average
- The Smallest Number
- The Greatest Number
Please, since it's so easy you should be able to create one with ease.
Also, I ask that you use Java because everyone has Java.
Well almost everyone but still 
DUST 514 just went full COD.
Never go full COD.
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Badonk Adonk
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
75
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Posted - 2013.12.15 03:20:00 -
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Surely you people can see you are being milked. Lol cow goes mooooooo |
Auld Syne
Vherokior Combat Logistics
Minmatar Republic
147
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Posted - 2013.12.15 03:20:00 -
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Atiim wrote:4447 wrote:
oishgsdgsddgso;gj;d;jvdhfghsdio;hg;sdhghoishg;oihsaio;g
That was easy.
Okay fine. Now create a Java program that asks the user to input 4 numbers and then finds the following.
- Sum
- Difference
- Product
- Dividend
- Average
- The Smallest Number
- The Greatest Number
Please, since it's so easy you should be able to create one with ease. Also, I ask that you use Java because everyone has Java. Well almost everyone but still
Minmatar use Java to run their Electronics Systems.
Java- [b]Wake up to rust! [/b] |
2Berries
Red Star Jr.
EoN.
14
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Posted - 2013.12.15 03:23:00 -
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Thank you.
Not sure how well that would integrate into the current battlefield, but would love to find out! |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
Public Disorder.
1520
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Posted - 2013.12.15 03:25:00 -
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I dream of tanks not existing in dust...it's a nice dream. |
2Berries
Red Star Jr.
EoN.
14
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Posted - 2013.12.15 03:26:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:2Berries wrote:Yup, still new.
What is MAV & MTAC? MAV is the Medium Assault Vehicle: at the fanfest they showed some concepts.
And thanks to you as well. |
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Jetti Daxcide
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
33
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Posted - 2013.12.15 03:32:00 -
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2Berries wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:2Berries wrote:Yup, still new.
What is MAV & MTAC? MAV is the Medium Assault Vehicle: at the fanfest they showed some concepts. And thanks to you as well.
https://wiki.eveonline.com/wikiEN/images/3/3a/CCP_Games_-_EVE_Chronicles_-_Tibus_Heth_Caldari_Pilot_-_FD_02.jpg
8===D~~~
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Azri Sarum
BurgezzE.T.F
Public Disorder.
202
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Posted - 2013.12.15 03:34:00 -
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Necandi Brasil wrote:
My Minmatar reference is only a superficial bad trollin,
I know programming is really hard work, that's why I want to help if they need some (Even if I can't do much programming myself). But are these issues temporary ? Will they run out of "Hardware " with the PS3 ?
I know there are limitations, I just want to the what are they
Some of the issues you listed are temporary. They are working on fleshing out full racial variety, we saw a little of that in 1.7 with the new rifles. Expect it to be an ongoing process. MAV's + MTAC's are in this same pipeline, so expect them after the other things (best guess).
Much of their effort has been on getting their core solid, now that it is, expect to see more content coming out.
PVE requires not only content created for it, but a solid design. Most likely it will tie back to EVE (somehow) so the design for it will encompass both games.
The 48+ player battles are not something that can be easily fixed, since that requires optimization in every aspect of the game. This is honestly best solved by waiting a year and then porting to PS4. Its beefier hardware would enable bigger battles.
EVE - Victor Maximus
DUST - Azri Sarum
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BrownEye1129
Death In Xcess Corporation
135
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Posted - 2013.12.15 03:44:00 -
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I dream of not having a team full of blues that are lemmings running face first into fire. |
Hyuan BubblePOP
Uber Wanabes
6
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Posted - 2013.12.15 03:50:00 -
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2Berries wrote:Yup, still new.
What is MAV & MTAC?
mav like the mav from BF3, gonna be flying the thing into mercs when they release it. fun  |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
711
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Posted - 2013.12.15 10:22:00 -
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I think it comes down that CCP does not have good game designers able to pull off a reasonable FPS. Then there is money hungry management interested to squeeze max profit with minimal investment. And shrinking player base of course as there is nothing besides the clan centered game play to hold ppl in the game.
Oh, sht! I just learned you can make a signature! Thanks, CCP! Forums are getting better!
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Rusty Shallows
579
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Posted - 2013.12.15 10:31:00 -
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Badonk Adonk wrote:Surely you people can see you are being milked. Lol cow goes mooooooo
A little close to home there Bro.
MCC Lounge Lizard
Forums > Game
Fix the game CCP
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T8R Raid
BIG BAD W0LVES
69
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Posted - 2013.12.15 10:35:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:I think it comes down that CCP does not have good game designers able to pull off a reasonable FPS. Then there is money hungry management interested to squeeze max profit with minimal investment. And shrinking player base of course as there is nothing besides the clan centered game play to hold ppl in the game.
Well said sir, what's worse is that with all the money they're making, they AREN'T investing in experienced FPS developers. Does that seem right to you? Buncha dudes with crayola drawing spaceships decide they want to make a game where half seconds can determine win or loss? We're ******* dumb.
Unchecked dishonesty can promote the perception that one must cheat to remain competitive.
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4447
Resolution XIII
944
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Posted - 2013.12.15 11:17:00 -
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CCP needs to go balls deep on this game or just don't do it.
Troll, For lifeGǪ But maybe a dragon, uh a bigger dragon.
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
1906
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Posted - 2013.12.15 11:36:00 -
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They are hiring devs and designers left right and center and investing more and more into this game to make it a success but this takes time, especially with lengthy visa processes and hiring procedures and even when the new guys are in, it takes a good month or so to get them fully integrated and up to speed on everything.
All the things mentioned in the OP were mentioned long ago but the poor reception on release and mass of core problems meant that everything had to be put on the back burner in order to get the game actually working properly; it seems we are now finally at a point that the core game is working, so expansions can be focused on more and we've already seen the start of this with the new rifles and FW iteration. New racial suits, more maps and more weapons/equipment will be coming very soon too and then we'll likely be seeing things like PC2.0 and PVE and maybe even 48 player matches.
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Necandi Brasil
DUST BRASIL S.A
Covert Intervention
552
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Posted - 2013.12.15 11:41:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:They are hiring devs and designers left right and center and investing more and more into this game to make it a success but this takes time, especially with lengthy visa processes and hiring procedures and even when the new guys are in, it takes a good month or so to get them fully integrated and up to speed on everything.
All the things mentioned in the OP were mentioned long ago but the poor reception on release and mass of core problems meant that everything had to be put on the back burner in order to get the game actually working properly; it seems we are now finally at a point that the core game is working, so expansions can be focused on more and we've already seen the start of this with the new rifles and FW iteration. New racial suits, more maps and more weapons/equipment will be coming very soon too and then we'll likely be seeing things like PC2.0 and PVE and maybe even 48 player matches.
Good post friend,
Hope you're right !
A DUST BRASIL S.A precisa de você ! Junte-se a nós !
Hey CCP, give me PvE!
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Elmo Love U
514 Mile High Club
48
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Posted - 2013.12.16 15:06:00 -
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Necandi Brasil wrote:Fellow mercs, We still dream of having 48 players in a battle, We still dream of having PvE, We still dream of having full racial variety... We stil dream of ARENA mode We still dream of MAV's and MTAC's. But, what's happening ? Seems like they are having a really hard time adding new stuff to this game ... Is the PS3 hardware curently a limitation? Is the small playerbase holding PvE ? What's going on ? We need to find a solution (CCP + Comunity). Can we have a clearer picture of the dificulties that Dev's are having ? Maybe we can help them search for the correct solution, afterall, 30-40 Devs (dunno the exact number) are not smarter then 10.000 players (Even if they are completly stupid, like Minmatars )
FU! I don't want 40 noobs stealling my kills. Bunch of leeches.
Show me the money!
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
F.T.U.
IMMORTAL REGIME
843
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Posted - 2013.12.16 16:33:00 -
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Auld Syne wrote:Atiim wrote:4447 wrote:
oishgsdgsddgso;gj;d;jvdhfghsdio;hg;sdhghoishg;oihsaio;g
That was easy.
Okay fine. Now create a Java program that asks the user to input 4 numbers and then finds the following.
- Sum
- Difference
- Product
- Dividend
- Average
- The Smallest Number
- The Greatest Number
Please, since it's so easy you should be able to create one with ease. Also, I ask that you use Java because everyone has Java. Well almost everyone but still Minmatar use Java to run their Electronics Systems. Java- [b ]Wake up to rust! [/b]
no, they use potatoes.
Tell me, how exactly DOES a biscuit gain Valor?
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Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
947
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Posted - 2013.12.16 16:37:00 -
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Auld Syne wrote:Atiim wrote:4447 wrote:
oishgsdgsddgso;gj;d;jvdhfghsdio;hg;sdhghoishg;oihsaio;g
That was easy.
Okay fine. Now create a Java program that asks the user to input 4 numbers and then finds the following.
- Sum
- Difference
- Product
- Dividend
- Average
- The Smallest Number
- The Greatest Number
Please, since it's so easy you should be able to create one with ease. Also, I ask that you use Java because everyone has Java. Well almost everyone but still Minmatar use Java to run their Electronics Systems. Java- [b ]Wake up to rust! [/b]
well, Java runs on anything, even on duct tape  |
Necandi Brasil
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
561
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Posted - 2013.12.16 22:29:00 -
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I lost days trying to solve Pascal exercises, lost all my will to program there ...
A DUST BRASIL S.A precisa de você ! Junte-se a nós !
Hey CCP, give me PvE!
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Orion Vahid
DUST University
Ivy League
215
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Posted - 2013.12.16 22:39:00 -
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Mad Mav wrote:Necandi Brasil wrote:
We still dream of MAV's
*Waves*
Let me pour chocolate syrup on you |
8213
BIG BAD W0LVES
1075
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Posted - 2013.12.16 23:11:00 -
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Its about expectations vs reality.
Reality: CCP is second rate at this for the following reasons:
-first ever FPS for them
-wrong engine
-mismanaged and unorganized
-closed off from new perspectives
-underfunded to support beliefs
Reality: Playerbase is second rate for the following reasons:
-lack of fps experience overall(top players stick to top games)
-unorganized. We can't closely agree on anything
-we expect DUST to be grade A 100% of the time
-skill gaps make a "haves & have nots" class system
-people are generaly selfish to the point of mental illness in this community
Expectations:
-a game thats a step outside the mainstream box
-working core mechanics
-developers actually believing in the game
-variety of content: rock, paper, scissors balancing
-PS4?
We and CCP want a good game. But both sides are toxic unto themselves. |
Necandi Brasil
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
561
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Posted - 2013.12.17 00:13:00 -
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8213 wrote:Its about expectations vs reality.
Reality: CCP is second rate at this for the following reasons:
-first ever FPS for them
-wrong engine
-mismanaged and unorganized
-closed off from new perspectives
-underfunded to support beliefs
Reality: Playerbase is second rate for the following reasons:
-lack of fps experience overall(top players stick to top games)
-unorganized. We can't closely agree on anything
-we expect DUST to be grade A 100% of the time
-skill gaps make a "haves & have nots" class system
-people are generaly selfish to the point of mental illness in this community
Expectations:
-a game thats a step outside the mainstream box
-working core mechanics
-developers actually believing in the game
-variety of content: rock, paper, scissors balancing
-PS4?
We and CCP want a good game. But both sides are toxic unto themselves.
Yes, but we have something in common (seeing this game suceed).
The main advantage of this game, IMHO is the fact that every battle matters... That grenade u earned in looting system is going to be used to kill an enemy , to conquer territory, to affect 1000's of others... blah blah blah
A DUST BRASIL S.A precisa de você ! Junte-se a nós !
Hey CCP, give me PvE!
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Tiberius Ernaga
State Patriots
Templis Dragonaors
5
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Posted - 2013.12.17 00:57:00 -
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Ryder Azorria wrote:They spent the last 7 months fixing what they already had - that's what happened. (not saying it didn't need fixed mind you)
1.7 is (theoretically) the first of the many 'new stuff' builds
Not fixing things fixing what they broke and leaving it in an even worse state with new issues like TTK.
Closed beta vet
Join State Patriots channel and corp for Caldari and Amarr faction warfare.
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