Hit detection sucks again too, unless they nerfed the Scrambler. I couldn't hit anything, and for some reason it always seemed to do bad right as someone was about to die.


Oh well. Back to the AR -_-


*This is completely off topic.

it sucks being one of the only people able to field proto in every amarr fw without having to worry about my wallet.
it sucks that squads keep disbanding because people keep getting banned.
it sucks that you lose everything you work for because you put down an ob to try to help your team.


this game mode is broken.

Hit detection sucks again too, unless they nerfed the Scrambler. I couldn't hit anything, and for some reason it always seemed to do bad right as someone was about to die.


Oh well. Back to the AR -_-


*This is completely off topic.

Your getting skotty errors because there are no districts left to play against. You don't get those when you join amarr or caldari FW, only gallente or minmatar.

It is because there are ten times more players trying to get in on minmatar/gallente FotM than amarr/caldari die-fest.

Your getting skotty errors because there are no districts left to play against. You don't get those when you join amarr or caldari FW, only gallente or minmatar.

It is because there are ten times more players trying to get in on minmatar/gallente FotM than amarr/caldari die-fest.

I know that.
It can at least queue until there's a district available so I don't have to sit there pushing the same button over and over for ten minutes.

Oh, and die-fest? Perhaps you should squad up. I've seen nothing but solo players in the matches I've gotten to play.

I really, really want to love FW. I really do.
I've tried to organise Gallente channels, provide OB support (I have performed over 100 strikes now), and just have fun in squads. We're winning, but it's not fun, nor is it rewarding.

FW is completely unsustainable. It was insane to release it without a market - We told CCP this over and over before release.
Even if it did have a market, it still wouldn't be nearly sustainable in its current form. Why? The LP payouts are lacking. In order to get funding from FW equivalent to pubmatch funding, you need to be selling these items at a huge markup from what you can get from the market. It's an entire gamemode built around 'luxury' items that very few need. Even fewer will pay for them. Even if you're winning constantly with level 10 standings and a booster the theoretical income from a market is barely on par with pubmatches.

And frankly it's just unbearable to play. I have been kicked every time I try to get a solid session going. The first time it was an orbital strike grazing a blueberry - the overkill damage apparently catapulted me over the limit from something close to 0. All standings lost, 24 hour ban.

The second time it was another orbital. The area was completely clear of blueberries. Then a tank MWD'd through. It didn't even kill him - but I got kicked. All standings lost, 24 hour ban.

I can't even go and fight for my allied faction, because for some completely inexplicable reason I'm banned from EVERY faction contract.

Then when I actually can play it, it takes ages to queue because of the scotty errors. Scotty errors. You know, the blindingly obvious bug which devs mentioned and has a massive effect on FW queuing? Yet they're not fixed months after they started coming up. Not even in a massive series of revamps. This isn't even time you can use to tweak fits or whatnot - you have to sit at the deployment screen pressing 'x' over and over and over and over and over again.


Whilst running with a squad today, the following happened:

"Ooh, a match! *fatal error*
Damnit. Let's try in a squad.

*goes with squad* Here we go, finally, a match, after all the scotty errors.
*black screen crash*

Damnit.
*waits for squad to get out*
*rejoins squad after 15 minutes*

Yay, we're actually queuing!
*squad lead starts giving orders*
"Wait, you're in a match?"
"Yeah, aren't you?"

****."


I really can't stand it. I looked forward to this so, so much. Finally, I thought, the mode I've been waiting for! But this is a joke. A farce.


Before this, I was logging in every day to maintain my login bonus. I didn't have the energy to play. I've got a holiday now, over Christmas. I'd like nothing more than to be able to play a decent series of enjoyable FW matches that don't break my wallet or my heart. I'm not sure I can even bother to maintain the login bonus anymore - Every single significant patch so much has been ****** up it's unbelievable.

I'm done, I guess.

I know you are a vet and a good player but ide just not squad lead for a while. Let that be someone elses problem. But from the sounds of things organizing is kind of your deal. Sorry sir.

Also i personally love the loyalty store. Proto suits for 15k isk and 155 lp. How do you not love that?

As your Gallente brother I encourage you to go grab a bottle of whiskey and some strippers and think this over.

I feel your pain on this... Gallente FW is a frustrating experience trying to get into. And the ease at which one can get banned makes me not even drop OB's anymore; it's just too risky!

Couple that with lack of ISK means that it's back to ambush for a few matches a day to keep myself afloat!

As much as I like many aspects of 1.7, I do hope there is some fine-tuning to FW.

You can get a proto suit from ISK in a pub match for less. I think a lot of people wanted to use their good gear and make FW good fights. It's not remotely sustainable even after reaching Level 10 standings.

Your getting skotty errors because there are no districts left to play against. You don't get those when you join amarr or caldari FW, only gallente or minmatar.

It is because there are ten times more players trying to get in on minmatar/gallente FotM than amarr/caldari die-fest.

I think if anything fw is where all the sacrifice in this game is supposed to go. Go hard for your team. By no means do I feel I need to say this to molon labe but I think that might be the point.

But I don't think we can expect players to sink ISK for long. The incentives to fight hard in pubs are broken as well and look what it's done. 2 or 3 minutes of effort then they quit if the going gets tough.

Incentives drive behavior. And I want action. FW is the thing CCP needs to make this game awesome, but instead they want to moderate it by forcing players to raise funds via pubs to afford it. This is insane to try and limit the fun players want to have in their game.

It's freakin crazy

I really, really want to love FW. I really do.
I've tried to organise Gallente channels, provide OB support (I have performed over 100 strikes now), and just have fun in squads. We're winning, but it's not fun, nor is it rewarding.

FW is completely unsustainable. It was insane to release it without a market - We told CCP this over and over before release.
Even if it did have a market, it still wouldn't be nearly sustainable in its current form. Why? The LP payouts are lacking. In order to get funding from FW equivalent to pubmatch funding, you need to be selling these items at a huge markup from what you can get from the market. It's an entire gamemode built around 'luxury' items that very few need. Even fewer will pay for them. Even if you're winning constantly with level 10 standings and a booster the theoretical income from a market is barely on par with pubmatches.

And frankly it's just unbearable to play. I have been kicked every time I try to get a solid session going. The first time it was an orbital strike grazing a blueberry - the overkill damage apparently catapulted me over the limit from something close to 0. All standings lost, 24 hour ban.

The second time it was another orbital. The area was completely clear of blueberries. Then a tank MWD'd through. It didn't even kill him - but I got kicked. All standings lost, 24 hour ban.

I can't even go and fight for my allied faction, because for some completely inexplicable reason I'm banned from EVERY faction contract.

Then when I actually can play it, it takes ages to queue because of the scotty errors. Scotty errors. You know, the blindingly obvious bug which devs mentioned and has a massive effect on FW queuing? Yet they're not fixed months after they started coming up. Not even in a massive series of revamps. This isn't even time you can use to tweak fits or whatnot - you have to sit at the deployment screen pressing 'x' over and over and over and over and over again.


Whilst running with a squad today, the following happened:

"Ooh, a match! *fatal error*
Damnit. Let's try in a squad.

*goes with squad* Here we go, finally, a match, after all the scotty errors.
*black screen crash*

Damnit.
*waits for squad to get out*
*rejoins squad after 15 minutes*

Yay, we're actually queuing!
*squad lead starts giving orders*
"Wait, you're in a match?"
"Yeah, aren't you?"

****."


I really can't stand it. I looked forward to this so, so much. Finally, I thought, the mode I've been waiting for! But this is a joke. A farce.


Before this, I was logging in every day to maintain my login bonus. I didn't have the energy to play. I've got a holiday now, over Christmas. I'd like nothing more than to be able to play a decent series of enjoyable FW matches that don't break my wallet or my heart. I'm not sure I can even bother to maintain the login bonus anymore - Every single significant patch so much has been ****** up it's unbelievable.

I'm done, I guess.

Ill play 4 pub for every 1 fw and usually gain isk.

I know the feels. 1.7 Killed my motivations to play as Tanking is now all about SP values, the rare occasion where I can out manoeuvre my opponent is often killed by the ridiculous speeds and poor handling of the dirty Gallente Armour HAV.....which is the only HAV I can use until they get their thumbs out of their asses and make this game worth playing for the Amarr.