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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.13 15:50:00 -
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I have an ADV plasma cannon so just wondering if I should use it for an AV fit
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 3
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Doc Noah
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
987
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Posted - 2013.12.13 15:51:00 -
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Weaker than swarms and swarms are laughable against tanks unless they come in 2-3 sizes. |
dust badger
SOUND Mercs
Of Sound Mind
351
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Posted - 2013.12.13 15:51:00 -
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ive only just started using it and have the advanced one too, i found it pretty useless for AV as by the time you reload the tank is the other side of the map.
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Commander Tzu
L.O.T.I.S.
Public Disorder.
72
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Posted - 2013.12.13 15:54:00 -
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PC kinda sucks for AV, the damage is good against shield tanks but it travels so slow. Even as a tanker myself I think the plasma cannon should get a faster flight speed and less drop, that would make it more viable against vehicles though people might abuse it against suits, I dunno. |
Vitharr Foebane
Blood Money Mercenaries
376
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Posted - 2013.12.13 16:03:00 -
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HEAVY... LASERS... Why we have YET to get anti shield AV is ridiculous.
TBA IS NOT A NAME!
At least give the heavy laser a name so we know you MIGHT be working on it.
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Duran Lex
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
402
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Posted - 2013.12.13 16:07:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:HEAVY... LASERS... Why we have YET to get anti shield AV is ridiculous.
Well, we have the potatoe gun as the Anti Shield Vehicle weapon but....
Yea. |
Vitharr Foebane
Blood Money Mercenaries
377
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Posted - 2013.12.13 16:16:00 -
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Duran Lex wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:HEAVY... LASERS... Why we have YET to get anti shield AV is ridiculous. Well, we have the potatoe gun as the Anti Shield Vehicle weapon but.... Yea.
lets be honest PC as an av option is silly. To use it reliably, you either need to get WAY too close or be able to see the future
TBA IS NOT A NAME!
At least give the heavy laser a name so we know you MIGHT be working on it.
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AP Grasshopper
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
57
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Posted - 2013.12.13 16:20:00 -
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plasma cannons projective speed is too slow =( |
Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
1348
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Posted - 2013.12.13 16:25:00 -
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You can use it to scare the **** out of HAVs. If you couple it with R/Es, big balls, and mad dodging skills, you can pop HAVs. I was doing it in a Scout suit. Tricked the HAVs into either A) backing into a corner or B) backing against an object. The moment the hardeners go down, it's ******. Throw the R/Es on it while the hardeners are up, let the pilot get comfortable. Juke him until the hardeners drop. Plasma Cannon down the shields. R/E detonations. It's so good.
Bonus points if you can Plasma Cannon it AND R/E it from atop a tower. (Really, I'd pay to see someone successfully do this up there.)
SWEET MOTHER OF TERESA ON THE HOOD OF A MERCEDES BENZ, YOU SOUND LIKE A MAJESTIC F*ING EAGLE! DO YOU SING?!
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Flix Keptick
Red Star.
EoN.
1579
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Posted - 2013.12.13 16:28:00 -
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If you can aim it then use it vs shield tanks. Don't be like most people right now and use a swarms vs shield vehicles since they do about 50% less damage vs shields than vs armor
Making AV an actual role
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
1456
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Posted - 2013.12.30 08:27:00 -
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I can attest to the fact that it does amazing knock back damage against Dropships...in special contexts.
I qualify this to an experience today on a domination research facility socket tower. A dropship attempted to pull a Doc Brown Delorean hover and slip up along to the tower without us noticing. I directed a plasma ball on the bow of the dropship which had enough force to dip the nose at a sheer 80 degrees. With that angle and already low elevation the ship simply made hard contact with the ground. My second shot connected with the ejected pilot. Insta-kill!
Damn, I love this weapon!
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
1851
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Posted - 2013.12.30 08:58:00 -
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Nnnooooopppppeee
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Sgt Kirk
Gallente Federation
3878
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Posted - 2013.12.30 09:10:00 -
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Lol nope |
Galvan Nized
Deep Space Republic
478
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Posted - 2013.12.30 09:12:00 -
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It's not a terrible weapon when paired with REs. If you are sneaky enough and get the REs planted fire the PlC and then blow the remotes.
Usually the PlC will do enough shield damage to allow the remotes to kill...Sadly if it didn't you are never going to get a second shot.
The PlC is still just a really big, really terrible long range shotgun that occasionally has a role in AV. |
Sgt Kirk
Gallente Federation
3878
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Posted - 2013.12.30 09:13:00 -
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Galvan Nized wrote:
The PlC is still just a really big, really terrible long flaccid penis occasionally has a role in AV.
Fixed |
Repe Susi
Rautaleijona
Top Men.
865
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Posted - 2013.12.30 09:27:00 -
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Scout with plc, remotes and av nades is very viable anti tank fit really. The hard part is to get close of course but you gotta be sneaky.
Smeehf.
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Niuvo
NECROM0NGERS
Covert Intervention
958
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Posted - 2013.12.30 09:30:00 -
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Takes skill to get close, put REs and shoot with PC. You can take stupid tanks, but not hard tanks. |
Sgt Kirk
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
3878
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Posted - 2013.12.30 09:34:00 -
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you can take down tanks with REs alone, idk why all these people are like 'Hurr dur you kneed to use dem with RE an Plasam Cannnon Cumbo"
That's like me saying if you want to cook frozen meal cook it on the specified time then burn it with a Bic lighter, wtf is the point of the damn lighter? |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
1046
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Posted - 2013.12.30 09:45:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:I have an ADV plasma cannon so just wondering if I should use it for an AV fit
They can be used to "scare" off some HAVs, the kill LAVs, and they are hilarious against DSGǪ
Viable not really, but so so so so much fun
KRRROOOOOOM
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
2762
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Posted - 2013.12.30 09:56:00 -
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Flux & weakspot shot can be pretty effective.
1.7 tanks really need to be dealt as much damage in as short a time as possible. To that end, a PlaC shot that softens a target you've already planted REs on, can be a nice boost to that alpha.
But generally the damn thing still needs a buff.
Alternatively it could be kept the same, only shrunk, and turned into a sidarm. Think about how useful that would be.
No.
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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
408
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Posted - 2013.12.30 11:45:00 -
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AP Grasshopper wrote:plasma cannons projective speed is too slow =(
The projectile is too slow
The arc is stupid (especially for an AV wepon)
The damage is way to low for single shot weapon that takes 4 -4.5 secs between shots on proto
The operation skill bonus is stupid (Really 5% chargetime bonus on a0.6 sec charge?)
The reload duration is too high
At a whole the PLC makes no sense as (AV) weapon. |
Toby Flenderson
research lab
172
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Posted - 2013.12.30 12:16:00 -
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I wouldn't expect to kill a tank but it works well to scare it away temporarily or destroy the shields for someone else to finish it off. |
The Robot Devil
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
1347
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Posted - 2013.12.30 13:54:00 -
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I have popped plenty of HAVs with a plasma cannon. It works well if you use it in the right situations, PLC with two sets of advanced prox and one set of standard proxs with some AV nades for fun. Takes practice and patience to make work.
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
3572
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Posted - 2013.12.30 16:15:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:I have popped plenty of HAVs with a plasma cannon. It works well if you use it in the right situations, PLC with two sets of advanced prox and one set of standard proxs with some AV nades for fun. Takes practice and patience to make work.
did I mention I'm not a logi?
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 3
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
408
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Posted - 2013.12.30 17:20:00 -
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Galvan Nized wrote:It's not a terrible weapon when paired with REs. If you are sneaky enough and get the REs planted fire the PlC and then blow the remotes.
Usually the PlC will do enough shield damage to allow the remotes to kill...Sadly if it didn't you are never going to get a second shot.
The PlC is still just a really big, really terrible long range shotgun that occasionally has a role in AV.
You could simply use a flux or AV nades for the same effect without loosing you light weapon slot... |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
408
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Posted - 2013.12.30 17:20:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:I have popped plenty of HAVs with a plasma cannon. It works well if you use it in the right situations, PLC with two sets of advanced prox and one set of standard proxs with some AV nades for fun. Takes practice and patience to make work.
And a really stupid HAV Pilot... |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
1401
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Posted - 2013.12.30 17:26:00 -
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Commander Tzu wrote:PC kinda sucks for AV, the damage is good against shield tanks but it travels so slow. Even as a tanker myself I think the plasma cannon should get a faster flight speed and less drop, that would make it more viable against vehicles though people might abuse it against suits, I dunno.
and a bigger clip
Marston VC, STB Director
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
602
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Posted - 2013.12.30 17:39:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:I have an ADV plasma cannon so just wondering if I should use it for an AV fit
Good for shield tanks.
Otherwise meh...
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
347
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Posted - 2013.12.30 17:46:00 -
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It has it's uses, hard to solo a tank but in concert with other AV it can hurt.
I love it for AP as well. On that map with the 6 towers I killed someone on a tower from the ground last night. 154m almost straight up. Once you get the reload speed up you can spit out a lot of plasma.
Henchmen21: Infantry
Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
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deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
358
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Posted - 2013.12.30 18:16:00 -
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run in a pair with a swarm launcher
"May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace" - Second Corinthians chapter one verse two.
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
678
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Posted - 2013.12.30 18:22:00 -
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its VERY good at making a tank decide to avoid your part of the map for the rest of the game.
most tanks never face resistance anymore sinec infantry decided AV is uselss so the second anyone hurts them they run away crying and go pick on someone else. |
Cass Caul
661
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Posted - 2013.12.30 21:58:00 -
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Plasma Cannon works well against tanker that don't know what they are doing, i.e. shield booster rather than shield hardener.
there is something about this game that when a vehicle hits an object, they get stuck for a few seconds. Seems to be by design, shoot a shield tank once. they boost their shield, hit them again, they get scared and run away. hope they hit someone and get stuck, giving you the time to get the kill.
That's how I get epic number of tank kills with the plasma cannon.
also triple flux then plasma cannon. they run into something, second shot kills.
It is not a viable option. it is something you go for sh^ts and giggles. if you like playing with the PLC you do it as anti-infantry, and find those situations that let you kill tanks... don't go tank hunting with a PLC it will only get you killed and disappointed.
Also, the plasma cannon needs more drop or no drop at all, not less. It used to have more. Now it just has this really awkward arc instead of something that was more useful. less drop would make it so bad.
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Kane Fyea
Scions of Athra
2527
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Posted - 2013.12.30 22:01:00 -
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Flix Keptick wrote:If you can aim it then use it vs shield tanks. Don't be like most people right now and use a swarms vs shield vehicles since they do about 50% less damage vs shields than vs armor
No they do 20% less damage. |
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