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Severus Smith
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.12.13 02:36:00 -
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Yeah, you heard me. I'm usually not one to come on the forums whining but this is just stupid. Last 5 matches I have been in have been nothing but Tank vs Tank matches. 6 HAVs vs 6 HAVs speeding around the map killing everything.
I am a Heavy (V in everything) so I even brought out my dedicated AV fit thinking "I'll get a bunch of kills" yeah, no. My Proto Assault Forge Gun couldn't even keep up with their repairing. It was me and another heavy firing volley after volley at the same tank (we both ran out of Forge ammo from full) and it would repair faster than we could damage it. It just sat there taking the hits and I think the player was probably laughing at us.
So then I brought out the big ol' Proto Breach thinking "got you now". But no, now every enemy with a RR can kill me from 100m+ while I'm immobile trying to line up a shot on a tank that's flying around the map doing donuts. Not to mention that it takes multiple Breach hits to kill a tank so by the time I can charge for a second shot they're either half way across the map, fully repaired, have run me over, or I was killed by any random enemy who stumbled across me (because yeah, my slow ass + a sidearm is going to win against a rifle).
So screw this. Tanks should be powerful, but either ridiculously slow, limited in number or requiring multiple people to use them. This idea that because someone puts SP in vehicle skills means that their dropsuit for the entire match is a HAV is silly. I put 13 million SP into my Heavy skills yet I'm still slow, carrying a weak ass weapon, and die to whomever so much as glances at me.
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Cosgar
ParagonX
8597
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Posted - 2013.12.13 02:50:00 -
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Wait for them to stop glowing and marvel at how paper thin they are.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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ALT2 acc
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
22
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Posted - 2013.12.13 05:41:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Wait for them to stop glowing and marvel at how paper thin they are.
tanks have HUGE cooldowns, are squishy when stuff is down ^ |
Alam Storm
Third Rock From The Sun
INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
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Posted - 2013.12.13 05:59:00 -
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the tanks now have been designed so it takes few people to take them out but considering AV nades are useless now and the forge and swarm launchers have been nerved its the least of your problems some of the tanks modules are glitched for example the militia injector mod says u get 10% speed when in fact you get 100% speed they are faster then an LAV
right now the rail rifle will be nerved but im not sure about tanks personally i think they made them stupidly overpowering now
i was in an LAv and was being chased around the map but a tank that was able to keep up and shoot me |
Stephen Seneca
State Patriots
Templis Dragonaors
10
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Posted - 2013.12.13 06:24:00 -
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A stasis webifier like in eve would be cool. Cut down the tank speed from 40/50/60 %. |
Flix Keptick
Red Star.
EoN.
1573
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Posted - 2013.12.13 06:40:00 -
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Petition CCP to get WP for damaging the vehicle: problem solved. (More info in my signature)
Making AV an actual role
G˙åTank DriverG˙å
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WASTED MERC
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
46
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Posted - 2013.12.13 06:40:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Wait for them to stop glowing and marvel at how paper thin they are.
Shooting while glowing does not stop repair????
Why doesn't the same thing happen with my suit
My shield rep has started now, im indestructible :) |
Severus Smith
Caldari State
482
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Posted - 2013.12.13 20:46:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Wait for them to stop glowing and marvel at how paper thin they are. We shot at the tank for over a minute. 2 of us, me with a Proto Forge and V in all applicable skills.
Then I shot another tank (or it could have been the same one) with a Proto Breach Forge Gun (with 1x Complex Heavy Mod and Prof V) and while it did take a bunch of damage (knocked it to 75% armor) by the time I charged a second shot it was half way across the map, back at full health, and I was dead.
My argument still remains. Tanks need to require more than one person when driving them or be majorly limited in some other way. In order for me to try to AV a tank I need to get into the slowest suit available, with a huge hitbox, no defensive weapon (don't be that guy who says a sidearm = duvolle) and a 10 second charge up that immobilizes me. What does a tank driver get? A crazy fast vehicle that can repair at 300 HP/s, has huge amounts of HP and can only be damaged by a small amount of weapons. Not to mention the main gun that can take out most dropsuits in less than a second.
So yeah, color me p***ed that because some guy put 10 million SP into vehicles he gets to spend the entire match in an invincible death machine while my 10 million SP allows me to trudge around in a defenseless, slow a** suit hoping that someone else is masochistic enough to join me in their defenseless, slow a** suit on the hope that - together - we somehow can kill the f***ing tank before anyone so much as glances at us with an Assault Rifle and ends out horrid quest.
This is just stupid. |
Dustbunny Durrr
ReD or DeaD
2
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Posted - 2013.12.13 21:02:00 -
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Stephen Seneca wrote:A stasis webifier like in eve would be cool. Cut down the tank speed from 40/50/60 %.
I actually just posted a (more in depth) idea of the same:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=128555&find=unread |
Tebu Gan
Dem Durrty Boyz
Renegade Alliance
299
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Posted - 2013.12.13 22:57:00 -
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Severus Smith wrote:Yeah, you heard me. I'm usually not one to come on the forums whining but this is just stupid. Last 5 matches I have been in have been nothing but Tank vs Tank matches. 6 HAVs vs 6 HAVs speeding around the map killing everything.
Man that sounds awesome.
Plus side is you don't have to worry about tanks eh.
Nuff Said
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THUNDERGROOVE
ZionTCD
Public Disorder.
396
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Posted - 2013.12.13 23:13:00 -
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WASTED MERC wrote:Cosgar wrote:Wait for them to stop glowing and marvel at how paper thin they are. Shooting while glowing does not stop repair???? Why doesn't the same thing happen with my suit My shield rep has started now, im indestructible :) Go ahead and shoot me all you want looser tank, my armor rep goes at 1hp/second and ive got 300 more hp to rep
Being completely ignorant about how the current vehicles work is why most AV can't blow anything up.
ZionTCD Director & Ammar Loyalist
Amarr Sentinel | Amarr Logi | Losematar Scout
What is a signature?
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Flix Keptick
Red Star.
EoN.
1605
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Posted - 2013.12.13 23:29:00 -
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Learn how your enemy thinks and also how tanks work (cause you clearly don't understand the mechanics right now), THEN if you are still unable to kill them and are a pro at it we have a problem
Making AV an actual role
G˙åTank DriverG˙å
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Gelan Corbaine
Gladiators Vanguard
251
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Posted - 2013.12.13 23:53:00 -
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Yeah it's possible to kill them even solo them ...... the problem is you have to go through such near suicidal lengths to do so that it's not profitably viable to do it . Worse it takes you away from the battle so you are not protecting the team or really doing anything to actively HELP the team, and pits you AGAINST other AVers making you compete for profit instead of working together to get it . AND there is a cheaper no sp alternative that is 100 times better at the job .
AS a challenge sure it's fun .......but someone who spent the last two years doing this as his role on the team ,,, it feels like being given a pink slip .
"Find another line of work if you wan't to make any isk and be useful to us ."
We really really really need that revised WP system . and webs
No job is worth doing if you don't get paid in the end .
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BLACK MASK D
The Exemplars
Top Men.
23
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Posted - 2013.12.14 00:39:00 -
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lol tanks arent op its easy to kill em but just running up to them with remotes and a flix |
Benjamin Ciscko
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
330
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Posted - 2013.12.14 00:45:00 -
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My squad has probably killed 15 of them in the past three matches they are not that tough to kill.
Tanker/Logi
Tanks almost fixed.
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Thang Bausch
Pierrot Le Fou Industries
77
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Posted - 2013.12.14 03:57:00 -
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I am not finding the swarm launcher nerf as bad as I thought it would be, but there are some things that are annoying me about tanks:
1. too many: every match has at least 2 tanks and the average is around 4-5 tanks in ambush. Its a first person shooter, not a first tank shooter
2. their too fast, but from what I read this is a bug people are exploiting.
3. Even when a tank is 10 meters from me, I need an active scanner to see it on my radar. A massive chunk of death dealing metal glowing with a shield damage reduction booster and my passive scanner can't pick it up when it is 10 meters from me on the other side of a rock?!?
4. too little skill points for taking part in taking one down. This bothered me before 1.7. There was a match before 1.7 where I dealt 40+k of damage to a tank, but get no WP because he kept retreating, repairing and returning. I single handedly kept that tank off the field for most of the battle, playing an important part of my team winning, but got almost no WP that match. |
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