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MassiveNine
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Posted - 2013.12.12 21:29:00 -
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Seriously. They've made it painfully obvious that they don't care about you, your feelings, your thoughts, and this game. So why do you still keep making threads asking for a response? Haven't you seen by now that every post on the forums from the devs is nothing more than cryptic bullsh!t that doesn't even answer the original question. They obviously treat this game as a side project and are probably smoking the good stuff (re: CRACK) when they make this game and they could care less about how we feel about it. You also should have noticed by now that they ignore ALL (not just some, but literally all) posts concerning scouts, heavies, bugs, and glitches. Considering all of CCP has their heads so far up their asses it's no surprise that this game is turning into sh!t.
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MassiveNine
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Posted - 2013.12.12 22:26:00 -
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I wouldn't expect anything, either. CCP has developed a great reputation for ignoring us, not delivering on promises, and developing lacklust and broken patches. It seems I was right about this patch too, for everything they "fixed," they managed to break 3 things.
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MassiveNine
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Posted - 2013.12.12 22:38:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:MassiveNine wrote:Seriously. They've made it painfully obvious that they don't care about you, your feelings, your thoughts, and this game. So why do you still keep making threads asking for a response? Haven't you seen by now that every post on the forums from the devs is nothing more than cryptic bullsh!t that doesn't even answer the original question. They obviously treat this game as a side project and are probably smoking the good stuff (re: CRACK) when they make this game and they could care less about how we feel about it. You also should have noticed by now that they ignore ALL (not just some, but literally all) posts concerning scouts, heavies, bugs, and glitches. Considering all of CCP has their heads so far up their asses it's no surprise that this game is turning into sh!t. Do you want something with your whine? Devs do care about this game. You just seem to don't understand that they can't fix everything instantly.
Sorry buddy, but considering that they broke hit detection again, comms have been bugged since codex, I STILL get stuck on invisible walls, fuckin A I could just keep going on and on and on. So when you talk about instantly, does it include time up to a year? Because that's how long all of these things have been broken.
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MassiveNine
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Posted - 2013.12.12 23:03:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:>Small ass group of programmers and designers
>Try to so the work of a group three times their size
>Constantly updates games in 4 weeks time
>Is supposed to respond to every single question while they're slaving away at the game for you
>Programming big projects without getting bugs isn't a thing
>Actually throws out development blogs and tweet about their work
I could go on but I might as well QFT
I can't stand you whining ass players who cry about the game every update while everyone else enjoy the game for what it is. Sure it has many issues but damn if everyone wants to constantly hear each other's bitching.
LMAO. 4 weeks? What rock have you been living under? Maybe us "whining ass players" would whine so much if CCP could release a single patch without breaking everything they released in the previous patch. Tell me then, if CCP is so great in your eyes why is there STILL crippling lag in PC?
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MassiveNine
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Posted - 2013.12.12 23:36:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:MassiveNine wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:>Small ass group of programmers and designers
>Try to so the work of a group three times their size
>Constantly updates games in 4 weeks time
>Is supposed to respond to every single question while they're slaving away at the game for you
>Programming big projects without getting bugs isn't a thing
>Actually throws out development blogs and tweet about their work
I could go on but I might as well QFT
I can't stand you whining ass players who cry about the game every update while everyone else enjoy the game for what it is. Sure it has many issues but damn if everyone wants to constantly hear each other's bitching.
LMAO. 4 weeks? What rock have you been living under? Maybe us "whining ass players" would whine so much if CCP could release a single patch without breaking everything they released in the previous patch. Tell me then, if CCP is so great in your eyes why is there STILL crippling lag in PC? What's a month to you? 2 weeks lol? They've been dropping updates by the month which is supposed to be 4 weeks to most people. They don't break everything they put in from other patches. There usually are some bugs or even full blown mechanics(TTK) that need fixing but at the same time a lot gets improved upon and added in. Hell the TTK issue came in because the hit detection became good. PC Lag has been going on for a while. It's like hit detection. They're trying but unfortunately they haven't hit nail on the head yet. Lag isn't as simple as coding anyway, and coding isn't even simple when you think about the bugs that come even after everything tested fine.
Lol. We were stuck on chromosome for over 6 months, with similar but slightly smaller waiting times at the beginning of uprising. Only within the last 2 patches have they been releasing sooner. These things that are broken are core gameplay mechanics that CCP has continually ignored for the "shiney" effect. How can you possibly ignore that and defend them with "oh they are trying."
The main fix from last months patch was broken... again. (hit detection). How can you just overlook that with "oh they are trying." Maybe instead of release new weapons for suits that don't need them they should work on the core gameplay first. Oh but no, they'd rather release 2 new weapons for suits that already have several choices while they make the heavy even worse, yet they claim balance? How about the fact that HMG's have been broken since uprising was realease and all they can muster is "not working as intended."
Those aren't roses you're smelling, wake up and look at the big Cleveland steamer they dropped on your chest.
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MassiveNine
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Posted - 2013.12.12 23:38:00 -
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LHughes wrote:Can we have a devs views on this topic please?
LOL.
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MassiveNine
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Posted - 2013.12.13 02:33:00 -
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Valmorgan Aubaris wrote:
1. I've been an EVE player for 10 years now, and EVE's update cycle is based on apx 6 months, so, consider yourself lucky being on a in general 1 month cycle for a game you play absolutely FREE unlike EVE players such as myself.
2. What has always infuriated me about threads like this is CCP is a corporation which means it has stakeholders that can read pissing and whining threads like this, thus potentially undermining confidence resulting in less money and less development.
The dev's make their living on the game, and the product determines the future of their careers, maybe kissing your ass every day in a forum doesn't pay the bills as much as actually programming nonstop.
Have you ever thought for even one second what a dev feels like after working a maybe third weekend without seeing a wife or kid to make your FREE update in time ever 4 weeks? Do you think he is more or less likely to be inspired to crate something even more enjoyable after reading this garbage?
3. In the, again, 10 years I've played EVE the game has improved, and shedded it's own skin so to speak so much it's shocking to see old videos. There is no other product like EVE and DUST is exactly as I remember EVE being and it's potential is just as great if not more, that is, unless the FREE part doesn't attract as many knuckledraggers as I see here now.
4. Frustration is understandable, especially in a game like this that is high stress all the time, compounded my the most moronic community in general I have ever seen in any game so far in my life except maybe WoW. Just go over to the EVE forums for a minute and glance over the posts there and compare them to here, it's like Romper Room on crack here compared to Harvard University over there. No wonder we call you dustbunnies.
That's my 2 cents.
First off, I've left EVE out of this because, even though I've never really played it, I've always thought it was a fun game.
Second, and to be quite honest, I hope that stakeholders read this and see what the dev's are doing with their money, because so far nothing but this steaming pile of dung you see here has come from it. Have you actually played the game? Do you know how bad it really is? There are still bugs and glitches around from over a YEAR ago. How is it even possible that with monthly updates there are still bugs and glitches that old?
We're talking about a company that in this point in time would rather polish a turd than make real gold. EVE is build on an ever evolving system and will do the same as well, I hope it does. But dust? How can they possibly hope to evolve this game into the AAA shooter they want it to be when they are holding it back on a now outdated console? Do you really think dust is going to be able to last 10 years on the PS3?
The dev's need to get their sh!t together if they plan on making a living off developing this game, because right now they are headed no where and fast. I'm obviously not the only one frustrated to this point, people have quit that I thought would go down with the game, maybe I would feel worse for the devs who don't get to see their family if they were actually doing something productive with the time. Considering they push back every major content release it's hard to even think about what they are actually doing with the time they have, also take into account there are things we were told we'd have last year that STILL aren't here (open player market for one example)
Of course I want new maps and content, who doesn't? Although I would much rather see a patch where they actually fixed everything that was wrong with the game instead of trying to distract us from what's broken.
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MassiveNine
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Posted - 2013.12.13 02:42:00 -
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Damn straight I've been crying about new content for the heavy, just another of poor development on CCP's part. Can you reasonably justify for them why they would release two new weapons for the light class while the heavy still has only two? I mean really what justifiable reason could you possibly have to further separate themselves from the so called balance they are trying to achieve? Instead of having a team fix the HMG or develop new weapons for them, they think it's better that they design a volcano map? And give us ashes floating in the sky instead the rest of the racial suits?
With all of that though, I would still much rather see them fix the broken parts of the game first and foremost before anything else. I was in your shoes once, defending CCP. Telling people to HTFU and it's just a beta. Hell I even recommend the game to several of my friends. Guess who still plays? None. But this isn't anything new, this has been going on since the beginning of the game. Just wait, one day, you'll be the one posting this from my point of view and some poor soul who still see's twinkles in his eyes when he thinks of CCP will be telling you the same things you're telling me.
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MassiveNine
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Posted - 2013.12.13 03:09:00 -
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Valmorgan Aubaris wrote:MassiveNine wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:>Small ass group of programmers and designers
>Try to so the work of a group three times their size
>Constantly updates games in 4 weeks time
>Is supposed to respond to every single question while they're slaving away at the game for you
>Programming big projects without getting bugs isn't a thing
>Actually throws out development blogs and tweet about their work
I could go on but I might as well QFT
I can't stand you whining ass players who cry about the game every update while everyone else enjoy the game for what it is. Sure it has many issues but damn if everyone wants to constantly hear each other's bitching.
LMAO. 4 weeks? What rock have you been living under? Maybe us "whining ass players" would whine so much if CCP could release a single patch without breaking everything they released in the previous patch. Tell me then, if CCP is so great in your eyes why is there STILL crippling lag in PC? 1. I've been an EVE player for 10 years now, and EVE's update cycle is based on apx 6 months, so, consider yourself lucky being on a in general 1 month cycle for a game you play absolutely FREE unlike EVE players such as myself. 2. What has always infuriated me about threads like this is CCP is a corporation which means it has stakeholders that can read pissing and whining threads like this, thus potentially undermining confidence resulting in less money and less development. The dev's make their living on the game, and the product determines the future of their careers, maybe kissing your ass every day in a forum doesn't pay the bills as much as actually programming nonstop. Have you ever thought for even one second what a dev feels like after working a maybe third weekend without seeing a wife or kid to make your FREE update in time ever 4 weeks? Do you think he is more or less likely to be inspired to crate something even more enjoyable after reading this garbage? 3. In the, again, 10 years I've played EVE the game has improved, and shedded it's own skin so to speak so much it's shocking to see old videos. There is no other product like EVE and DUST is exactly as I remember EVE being and it's potential is just as great if not more, that is, unless the FREE part doesn't attract as many knuckledraggers as I see here now. 4. Frustration is understandable, especially in a game like this that is high stress all the time, compounded my the most moronic community in general I have ever seen in any game so far in my life except maybe WoW. Just go over to the EVE forums for a minute and glance over the posts there and compare them to here, it's like Romper Room on crack here compared to Harvard University over there. No wonder we call you dustbunnies. That's my 2 cents.
p.s. i broke your like cherry
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Posted - 2013.12.13 04:52:00 -
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Draxus Prime wrote:if ccp had more than a month to push out updates almost nothing would bug
ccp listen to their community way more then alot of other companies
ccp are going to change heavies and scouts when all racial versions are out
do you seriously think ccp should take time out of DEVELOPING THE GAME to respond to ever whiny ass? That would be not caring about the game...
oh right, because its much more cost and effective to release half of something and then spend over a year working on the other half just to completely change it when you make it whole? dumbass, when did I want the devs to respond to this? oh yea, I didn't. actually I'm telling people to stop so that they might fix this crap, but I guess you and reading don't get along too well so I don't expect you to understand.
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