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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
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Posted - 2013.12.12 14:36:00 -
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You know something is wrong when your most effective way to kill a tank is a LAV packed with remotes...while there are AV weapons in this game...
1. I don't argue the range nerf to swarms was ok for me the damage nerf was a bit too much but I guess this could change.
2. The PLC? Even most who use the PLC with great success admit its more an AI weapon than an AV weapon and horribly UP (but fun as hell to use)
3. currently even militia tanks shrugg of Proto Av and thats a bit problematic what will happen once advanced or proto hulls are available? (stupid concept to give proto AV but only std hulls)
4. Area of denial - I would agree that would be a solution but the problem is the AV guy don't get a reward for repelling a tank and currently tanks come back too fast so its either kill or nothing don't blame the AVler for that.
5. Invisible swarms is a bad thing and CCP should have solved this ages ago ;/
6. Teamwork - well shouldn't this be true for both sides? Why do tankers want AV to require Teamwork while wrecking havoc solo? Teamwork worked for tanks in 1.6 a Tank supported by Infantry was quite dangerous but I think its too much to ask for tankers to bring infantry with them, But wait now tankers say we should bring in tanks to stop tanks - This logic is amusing
7. Communication - see 6 apart from that sure
8. Traps see 6 - Why should I have to organise a trap when you can drive around in your tank uncontested - makes no sense
9. Forge you are right we have two (or three if you count the PLC as AV) AV weapons where only one is viable to counter Vehicles, so CCP should simply remove the swarms and refund the SP
10. regarding the nitro bug its the same with the invisible swarms and I don't expect any solution soon I know it's not the tankers fault but it is stupid, screwing balance and I expect this to last on for a while but maybe CCP will surprise me |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
330
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Posted - 2013.12.12 15:12:00 -
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Regarding your answers:
to 2) Regarding the PLC its really a poor AV weapon and thats the reason it is used against Infantry (and ist rarely used overall). The reason is simply the damage is not very high for an AV weapon considering the HP you can have without modules, it needs to reload after every shot, has a stupid charge and a rather slow projectile that has an arc (well the thing with the arc is it makes not much sense to me but this is rather a personal thing^^)
to 3) As I said a stupid concept
to 4) this could work but still repelling a tank should have an effect that last longer than a few seconds
to 5) Still a stupid Bug that shold be resolved a long time ago
to 6) This was not meant as a personal attack, but there are more than enough tankers that want to run solo and expect AV to rely on teamwork
to 8) I know the benefit of a trap and I have done this before :). But there is the problem with scalability why should I have to organise a trap that involves multiple AV guy and there takes a way more than one gun. While a tank drive without to really care if there is Infantry based resistance or not. Apart from that trapping is a situational thing and if your sense of balance relies to a soltution that works just on occasion...well
to 9) I know exactly how to use the Swarm and I was nearly always close to tanks when I killed them (because I know all the drawbacks of swarm as well) but currently this weapon is not worth the risk of beeing slaugthered by any other infantrymen. Especially with the new rifles. Sneaking up a tank and throw RE's or plasterring a LAV with RE's seems more reliable currently.
to 10) Hmm CCP has a tendency for taking their time even with simple fixes so again I don't expect any solution soon but hey as I said may be CCP surprises me here ^^ |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
330
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Posted - 2013.12.12 15:34:00 -
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to 2) So we agree the PLC is UP and not very viable as AV weapon ^^
to 6) Its easy 1 person should be able to fight of 1 tank as long as 1 person is enough to have a tank fully operable and the teamsize is fixed. I admit AV was on the upper hand in 1.6 but not nearly as far as many tanker said. I had quite some challanging duels but I had easy kills as well. So in genral I am not against the rebalance its just the coin flipped from one side to the other and both is bad for the game.
to 8) To have options is a good thing relieing on them a bad.
to 9) I think the range nerf is ok and deserved but the damage nerf was a bit too much overall.
I think most points are up to CCP as it is their game we can only provide feedback based on experience and personal opinions. |
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