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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.12 14:48:00 -
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chase rowland wrote:get smart like the tankers did. adapt or die like the tankers did. now you know how it was for tankers.
also, I love how its always the same people complaining about tanks, makes it seem like theres more of them. So tell me again.
Why should. I use AV for AV when an HAV does the job better again?
How do you destroy a vehicle that you can't damage without it escaping. (Even without the lolnitous vehicles move too fast for AV).
Also, the hardner on shielded vehicle needs to be away brighter. The white color causes the aura to blend in to the point where you have to stare directly at the vehicle to see if it's hardners are on.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.12 15:02:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote: try it in PC another proof of lack of credibility. PC aka photoslideshow 514, is definately the answer to everything When PC works it works 2 organized teams with proto everything going at each other, you soon see what comes to be FOTM and what is broken Then again you are D- UNI and are still training so i dont expect you to leave pub matches with broken matchmaking Can't say I didn't expect this from you.
You can't balance vehicles and AV for a game mode that the majority of the playerbase doesn't participate in, nor could participate in if they wanted to.
That's like balancing ARs around the Ambush gamemode
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.12 15:09:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Atiim wrote:chase rowland wrote:get smart like the tankers did. adapt or die like the tankers did. now you know how it was for tankers.
also, I love how its always the same people complaining about tanks, makes it seem like theres more of them. So tell me again. Why should. I use AV for AV when an HAV does the job better again? How do you destroy a vehicle that you can't damage without it escaping. (Even without the lolnitous vehicles move too fast for AV). Also, the hardner on shielded vehicle needs to be away brighter. The white color causes the aura to blend in to the point where you have to stare directly at the vehicle to see if it's hardners are on. AV is still good, you have to use it to its advantages now and not just spam it Also if you cant tell if hardeners are on then you need your eyes tested I could say the same about the people QQing about the llolrendering glitch on Swarm Launchers. It's ironic how these same people are the ones saying to calm down about the lolnitous bug. (Which doesn't matter because even without the MLT NOS bug vehicles still move way too fast.
You still haven't answered the question, so I'll do it for you.
Currently, there is no good reason that anyone can supply me as to why I should use my AV instead of my HAV.
A Sica/Soma has the capacity of 2 PRO AV. That's a problem.
And lol the aura around hardnened shielded vehicles barely renders past 15m. Even SLs rendered past 15m.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.12 15:33:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:
Wrong
500k is not cheaper than 200k
So as opposed to answer the arguments given to you, you resort to nitpicking?
Only the best HAVs cost 500k. Currently your average vehicle costs about 100-150k, which is cheaper than 200k.
And 200k is way more expensive than 500k when you are guaranteed to die at least 4-5 times.
And for less than 1/5 of the effort of AV, I can get a Sica that's better at AV than my Wirykomi SL, Allotek PLC, and IAFG combined.
So tell me, why should people use AV again?
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.12 15:36:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Jack McReady wrote: not to mention a tank is cheaper than the proto AV suit required to even bother a tank.
Wrong 500k is not cheaper than 200k And people laughed at Maths, MATHS TRIUMPHS ALL! Your right it does trump all.
When the person doing the calculations actually passed kindergarden.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.12 15:39:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Atiim wrote:] Can't say I didn't expect this from you.
You can't balance vehicles and AV for a game mode that the majority of the playerbase doesn't participate in, nor could participate in if they wanted to.
That's like balancing ARs around the Ambush gamemode Pubs isnt balanced because matchmaking isnt even working PC is competitve where its proto vs proto Pubs is proto vs milita where you cant balance There is no matchmaking whatsoever in this game. (And no Scotty does not count)
That still doesn't change the fact that you can't balance things based on PC, as not everyone plays the PC gamemode.
What you can do is balance around all of the gamemodes though.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.12 15:41:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:But I'm sure he considers CCP using tanks in ambush stats as a legitimate metric for determining that tanks are OP. Nope.
I wouldn't consider anything claimed to be OP credible when used in the Spambush gamemode.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.12 15:42:00 -
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Actually, the OP is correct.
Intellegence is OP, that's why AV was nerfed into uselessness.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.12 15:45:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Only good matchmaking is in PC where you fight competant teams with mics/plans and the best gear
Balancing in pubs is a bad idea because lolmilitia vs proto
Nope.
Balance around PC is even worse because it assumes that everyone is always running Tier III or Tier IV gear.
It also assumes that everyone is always squaded up, and constantly communicating.
It also assumes that everyone is trying their hardest to succeed.
Which is hardly the case in PUB matches.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.12 19:36:00 -
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So what are your opinions on making vehicles require teamwork?
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