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Grit Breather Cannonfodder PMC 872	Posted - 2013.12.12 10:16:00 - [1] - Quote {TL;DR} The Gallente Assault Dropsuit skill should be applying a PG and CPU usage bonus to Rail Rifles but is not. Rail Rifles are mistakenly not tagged as hybrid weapons in DUST's data files. {TL;DR} The Gallente Assault Dropsuits skill (364613) grants 2 bonusModifier skills: 5% CPU usage reduction per level for the combination of the following 2 tags: tag_handheld_weapon (352358) and tag_weaponclass_hybrid (353511). 5% PG reduction per level for the combination of the following 2 tags: tag_handheld_weapon (352358) and tag_weaponclass_hybrid (353511). The combination of those 2 tags should basically apply a PG and CPU usage bonus to all handheld (light slot) weapons that are also hybrids. Hybrid weapons are blaster and rail based weapons. That's how it is in EVE and that's how it is in DUST. Assault Rifles have the following tags: tag_weapon_assaultrifle (353488) tag_weapon (352335) tag_light (352342) tag_handheld_weapon (352358) tag_weaponclass_hybrid (353511) Rail Rifles have the following tags: tag_weapon_railrifle (363609) tag_light (352342) tag_handheld_weapon (352358) tag_weapon (352335) With the above data, it is easy to see that Rail Rifles are missing the tag_weaponclass_hybrid (353511) tag. This tag should be added to them. "Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." GÇò Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland
Grit Breather Cannonfodder PMC 872	Posted - 2013.12.12 10:18:00 - [2] - Quote Reserved. "Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." GÇò Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland
Musta Tornius Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 680	Posted - 2013.12.12 10:28:00 - [3] - Quote Bump, why does CCP hate gallente assault? Dust514 Weapon Range & Information Team Fairy DUST
Grit Breather Cannonfodder PMC 873	Posted - 2013.12.12 10:32:00 - [4] - Quote Musta Tornius wrote: Bump, why does CCP hate gallente assault? Technically they hate a Caldari weapon here... But whatever ;) "Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." GÇò Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland
Aoena Rays Bragian Order Amarr Empire 415	Posted - 2013.12.12 10:39:00 - [5] - Quote http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/11/weapons-of-uprising-1.7/ check the table that is explaining damage profiles. Rail rifle is blue Rail hybird and others are Plasma hybrids. Therefore gallente bonus should not apply to them.
Grit Breather Cannonfodder PMC 873	Posted - 2013.12.12 10:48:00 - [6] - Quote Aoena Rays wrote: http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/11/weapons-of-uprising-1.7/ check the table that is explaining damage profiles. Rail rifle is blue Rail hybird and others are Plasma hybrids. Therefore gallente bonus should not apply to them. Not true unless CCP want to change their wording. There skill states clearly: Quote: Assault Suit Bonus: +5% to dropsuit shield recharge rate per level. Gallente Assault Bonus: 5% reduction to hybrid weaponry PG/CPU usage per level Also, the RR isn't tagged as hybrid which is wrong to begin with. That is regardless of whether the skill should or should not be applied on a design level (which would mean changing the wording.. "Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." GÇò Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland

CCP FoxFour C C P C C P Alliance 14218	Posted - 2013.12.12 11:10:00 - [7] - Quote Did you also test this in the client by any chance? Just to see if maybe it's a misunderstanding of the SDE data or my failure to included required information. CCP FoxFour // Game Designer // Team True Grit http://twitter.com/regnerba

Grit Breather Cannonfodder PMC 874	Posted - 2013.12.12 11:12:00 - [8] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: Did you also test this in the client by any chance? Just to see if maybe it's a misunderstanding of the SDE data or my failure to included required information. Tested in the client, yes. AR gets a CPU/PG reduction while RR does not. :( "Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." GÇò Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland

CCP FoxFour C C P C C P Alliance 14218	Posted - 2013.12.12 11:15:00 - [9] - Quote The post has been passed along to those who understand this stuff. :) CCP FoxFour // Game Designer // Team True Grit http://twitter.com/regnerba

Grit Breather Cannonfodder PMC 874	Posted - 2013.12.12 11:21:00 - [10] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: The post has been passed along to those who understand this stuff. :) BEST! "Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." GÇò Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 4099	Posted - 2013.12.12 16:11:00 - [11] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: Did you also test this in the client by any chance? Just to see if maybe it's a misunderstanding of the SDE data or my failure to included required information. I had a post about this on day one where a few others confirmed: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=126831&find=unread Did you guys just not believe us or something? O_o; /sarcasm forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m= (Frames)1544109 (Advertisement)1556863 (Packs)1570030 (Lag Hunt) 1570201
Grit Breather Cannonfodder PMC 879	Posted - 2013.12.12 16:34:00 - [12] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: Did you also test this in the client by any chance? Just to see if maybe it's a misunderstanding of the SDE data or my failure to included required information. I had a post about this on day one where a few others confirmed: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=126831&find=unread Did you guys just not believe us or something? O_o; /sarcasm Now that the SDE is out you can back up your claims with hard facts. That what I did. Nobody can ignore me then... :) "Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." GÇò Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland
SHANN da MAN D3LTA FORC3 108	Posted - 2013.12.12 19:00:00 - [13] - Quote Grit Breather wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: Did you also test this in the client by any chance? Just to see if maybe it's a misunderstanding of the SDE data or my failure to included required information. I had a post about this on day one where a few others confirmed: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=126831&find=unread Did you guys just not believe us or something? O_o; /sarcasm Now that the SDE is out you can back up your claims with hard facts... That's what I did. Nobody can ignore me then... :) Good for you ... Good work! And that should be an extremely easy Hotfix for the DEV's ... seeing as you've pointed out exactly how to fix it nothing to see here ... move along
Grit Breather Cannonfodder PMC 880	Posted - 2013.12.12 20:14:00 - [14] - Quote I sure hope so... :) "Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." GÇò Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 57	Posted - 2013.12.13 10:58:00 - [15] - Quote Bump The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu

CCP Remnant C C P C C P Alliance 507	Posted - 2013.12.16 10:21:00 - [16] - Quote SHANN da MAN wrote: Grit Breather wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: Did you also test this in the client by any chance? Just to see if maybe it's a misunderstanding of the SDE data or my failure to included required information. I had a post about this on day one where a few others confirmed: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=126831&find=unread Did you guys just not believe us or something? O_o; /sarcasm Now that the SDE is out you can back up your claims with hard facts... That's what I did. Nobody can ignore me then... :) Good for you ... Good work! And that should be an extremely easy Hotfix for the DEV's ... seeing as you've pointed out exactly how to fix it You are absolutely correct. I derp'd the tagging. Barring a zombie apocalypse or cats and dogs living together it should be corrected in tomorrow's hotfix.

Grit Breather Cannonfodder PMC 887	Posted - 2013.12.16 11:29:00 - [17] - Quote CCP Remnant wrote: SHANN da MAN wrote: Grit Breather wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: Did you also test this in the client by any chance? Just to see if maybe it's a misunderstanding of the SDE data or my failure to included required information. I had a post about this on day one where a few others confirmed: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=126831&find=unread Did you guys just not believe us or something? O_o; /sarcasm Now that the SDE is out you can back up your claims with hard facts... That's what I did. Nobody can ignore me then... :) Good for you ... Good work! And that should be an extremely easy Hotfix for the DEV's ... seeing as you've pointed out exactly how to fix it You are absolutely correct. I derp'd the tagging. Barring a zombie apocalypse or cats and dogs living together it should be corrected in tomorrow's hotfix. Are you content with the format of the bug report? Would you prefer a different format in the future? :) "Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." GÇò Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 59	Posted - 2013.12.16 15:40:00 - [18] - Quote Is it fixed yet? The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 4146	Posted - 2013.12.16 16:25:00 - [19] - Quote SHANN da MAN wrote: Grit Breather wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: Did you also test this in the client by any chance? Just to see if maybe it's a misunderstanding of the SDE data or my failure to included required information. I had a post about this on day one where a few others confirmed: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=126831&find=unread Did you guys just not believe us or something? O_o; /sarcasm Now that the SDE is out you can back up your claims with hard facts... That's what I did. Nobody can ignore me then... :) Good for you ... Good work! And that should be an extremely easy Hotfix for the DEV's ... seeing as you've pointed out exactly how to fix it Right, it only took multiple confirmations, a screenshot, two different threads and SDE verification to get the point across forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m= (Frames)1544109 (Advertisement)1556863 (Packs)1570030 (Lag Hunt) 1570201

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