DUST Search - the end of all tanks thread.

Spkr4theDead wrote:

TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote:

after playing a lot of FW today this is what needs to be done about those damn tanks.

1. fix that damn speed glitch. It is annoying when you are about to kill a soma or madruger with your AV and it zooms away at mach 3.

Or, you know, you could try to not solo a tank and use teamwork.

2. railguns do way too much damage and shoot too fast. i understand the need for anti tank tanks, but doing over 2000 a shot right now is pretty extreme. especially if you are a gunloggi.

It's about time that railguns again do more damage than forge guns, thus making them better for anti-tank work.

3. Make them more expensive. why the hell does my proto suit cost 20k less than my tank? if most tanks cost around 500k just for the tank itself im sure all these new people would be hesitant about calling 8 tanks per game.

We spent more than half a year with tanks regularly going for over 1 mil ISK. Don't you think it's about time we had a price cut? The limit for vehicles is 7, not 8. And I'd love to be in a match with 7 v 7 tank battles in which AV does not bother, but rather, infantry actually watches it happen (for the first time ever), experiencing tankers fighting it out.

4. make the militia tanks actually militia. give them less slots so we don't have 5000 armor somas and near immortal sicas running around.

MLT tanks use to have 4 HP tank slots, and 2 auxiliary slots; STD had 5 HP tank slots and 2 auxiliary slots, and Enforcers (lol) had 5 HP tank slots and 3 auxiliary slots. Why do you want to nerf tanks even more? Now, MLT tanks have 2 HP tank slots and 2 auxiliary slots, while STD has 3 HP tank slots and 2 auxiliary slots. What more do you infantry want taken away from us?

I am pretty sure this would fix a lot of issues we are running into.

No, it won't fix your petty complaints until you succeed in having vehicles removed from the game in their entirety, and the SP not refunded. There aren't any issues, you just simply cannot accept that tanks can't soloed with your MLT Starter Anti-Armor fit. You don't tank, so why are you worried about how they're performing?

however, i do not expect CCP do more than 2 things on this list.

They shouldn't do anything on your list.

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TEXA5 HiTM4N ROGUE SPADES 325	Posted - 2013.12.12 07:19:00 - [1] - Quote after playing a lot of FW today this is what needs to be done about those damn tanks. 1. fix that damn speed glitch. It is annoying when you are about to kill a soma or madruger with your AV and it zooms away at mach 3. 2. railguns do way too much damage and shoot too fast. i understand the need for anti tank tanks, but doing over 2000 a shot right now is pretty extreme. especially if you are a gunloggi. 3. Make them more expensive. why the hell does my proto suit cost 20k less than my tank? if most tanks cost around 500k just for the tank itself im sure all these new people would be hesitant about calling 8 tanks per game. 4. make the militia tanks actually militia. give them less slots so we don't have 5000 armor somas and near immortal sicas running around. I am pretty sure this would fix a lot of issues we are running into. however, i do not expect CCP do more than 2 things on this list. Everything I say or do has the utmost importance.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 6052	Posted - 2013.12.12 07:20:00 - [2] - Quote I find it ludicrous that some tanks cost less than a dropsuit. I already have 30 Madrugars and I'm turning a ridiculously big profit on them. Level 6 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
TEXA5 HiTM4N ROGUE SPADES 325	Posted - 2013.12.12 07:22:00 - [3] - Quote same here. i use the state gunloggi so i am spending 40k and some LP per tank. Everything I say or do has the utmost importance.
Commander Tzu L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 53	Posted - 2013.12.12 07:26:00 - [4] - Quote About damn time they reduced the cost on tanks, before 1.7 you paid 1.4 m isk for a tank that did less damage than 200k dropsuits. Another thing you seem to be forgetting, your comparing a proto suit to a standard tank. Put as many proto mods on your standard suit as you can, compare that to your proto suit, and see what the difference is. My most expesive tank right now is 560k, what's your most expensive suit?
TEXA5 HiTM4N ROGUE SPADES 325	Posted - 2013.12.12 07:31:00 - [5] - Quote Commander Tzu wrote: About damn time they reduced the cost on tanks, before 1.7 you paid 1.4 m isk for a tank that did less damage than 200k dropsuits. Another thing you seem to be forgetting, your comparing a proto suit to a standard tank. Put as many proto mods on your standard suit as you can, compare that to your proto suit, and see what the difference is. My most expesive tank right now is 560k, what's your most expensive suit? I think you are forgetting it is a damn tank. Unless every protosuit you encounter is rocking AV gear you can pretty much have your way with them by your reason we can say how many proto av suits does it take to destroy your tank. im pretty sure those suits combined would cost well over 560k. Everything I say or do has the utmost importance.
GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR 1094	Posted - 2013.12.12 07:49:00 - [6] - Quote Bro did u see the dust trailer it had alot of tanks and dropships i think its about time more tanks are on the field it makes it more dusty and its war just use them while u can OPEN THE MERCS QUARTERS :-D!!!!!!!!!!!! Youtube Vids coming Soon
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1199	Posted - 2013.12.12 07:57:00 - [7] - Quote GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR wrote: Bro did u see the dust trailer it had alot of tanks and dropships i think its about time more tanks are on the field it makes it more dusty and its war just use them while u can Yeah I d rather be used because a situation is benefical to them, not because they are OP Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4137	Posted - 2013.12.12 07:57:00 - [8] - Quote Sica has 2 high and 2 low slots. Gunnlogi has 3 high and 2 low slots. Sica has less PG and CPU as well. Pretty sure it's a Milita tank. Dropsuits mostly lose one slot and some PG/CPU when going to Militia from Standard. Sounds like the same treatment here.
Taeryn Frost Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 135	Posted - 2013.12.12 08:03:00 - [9] - Quote I was going to semi-complain about tanks many threads over but just didn't bother. This thread made me realize something however; I've got hundreds of millions of isks and tanks are cheaper than proto suits when it comes to survivability. If I want to stop these tanks I guess I should start spamming tanks myself.
Lynn Beck Granite Mercenary Division Top Men. 332	Posted - 2013.12.12 08:03:00 - [10] - Quote ^^That. What do you want, sicas to have 1 high 1 low? Under 28db Officially nerfproof (predicting CR nerf February '14) I haz knife. Me get steak?

Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 323	Posted - 2013.12.12 09:01:00 - [11] - Quote GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR wrote: Bro did u see the dust trailer it had alot of tanks and dropships i think its about time more tanks are on the field it makes it more dusty and its war just use them while u can No problem make them as easy to destroy like a dropsuit and no one will complain about those tank numbers. They are simply too hard to bring down for their price and their numbers on the field. Well it seems CCP knows just one way to balance by overdoing. They make things either ridiculous strong or weak :/ and they like to go with big changes rather than small tweaks
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 2181	Posted - 2013.12.12 09:15:00 - [12] - Quote I am indifferent to the tank situation. Yes there are a whole bunch on the field...because there are a whole bunch of players who downloaded a patch which changed how the tanks roll. So of course majority of folks are trying their hand. Is it truly a speed glitch happening here? Or is this "working as intended"? Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1474	Posted - 2013.12.12 09:34:00 - [13] - Quote TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: after playing a lot of FW today this is what needs to be done about those damn tanks. 1. fix that damn speed glitch. It is annoying when you are about to kill a soma or madruger with your AV and it zooms away at mach 3. Or, you know, you could try to not solo a tank and use teamwork. 2. railguns do way too much damage and shoot too fast. i understand the need for anti tank tanks, but doing over 2000 a shot right now is pretty extreme. especially if you are a gunloggi. It's about time that railguns again do more damage than forge guns, thus making them better for anti-tank work. 3. Make them more expensive. why the hell does my proto suit cost 20k less than my tank? if most tanks cost around 500k just for the tank itself im sure all these new people would be hesitant about calling 8 tanks per game. We spent more than half a year with tanks regularly going for over 1 mil ISK. Don't you think it's about time we had a price cut? The limit for vehicles is 7, not 8. And I'd love to be in a match with 7 v 7 tank battles in which AV does not bother, but rather, infantry actually watches it happen (for the first time ever), experiencing tankers fighting it out. 4. make the militia tanks actually militia. give them less slots so we don't have 5000 armor somas and near immortal sicas running around. MLT tanks use to have 4 HP tank slots, and 2 auxiliary slots; STD had 5 HP tank slots and 2 auxiliary slots, and Enforcers (lol) had 5 HP tank slots and 3 auxiliary slots. Why do you want to nerf tanks even more? Now, MLT tanks have 2 HP tank slots and 2 auxiliary slots, while STD has 3 HP tank slots and 2 auxiliary slots. What more do you infantry want taken away from us? I am pretty sure this would fix a lot of issues we are running into. No, it won't fix your petty complaints until you succeed in having vehicles removed from the game in their entirety, and the SP not refunded. There aren't any issues, you just simply cannot accept that tanks can't soloed with your MLT Starter Anti-Armor fit. You don't tank, so why are you worried about how they're performing? however, i do not expect CCP do more than 2 things on this list. They shouldn't do anything on your list. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1474	Posted - 2013.12.12 09:38:00 - [14] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I find it ludicrous that some tanks cost less than a dropsuit. I already have 30 Madrugars and I'm turning a ridiculously big profit on them. You have, or have lost 30 tanks in 2 days? Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1474	Posted - 2013.12.12 09:39:00 - [15] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: ^^That. What do you want, sicas to have 1 high 1 low? One high and no low slots is what they want. But really, we all know they want vehicles removed from the game. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1474	Posted - 2013.12.12 09:41:00 - [16] - Quote Korvin Lomont wrote: GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR wrote: Bro did u see the dust trailer it had alot of tanks and dropships i think its about time more tanks are on the field it makes it more dusty and its war just use them while u can No problem make them as easy to destroy like a dropsuit and no one will complain about those tank numbers. They are simply too hard to bring down for their price and their numbers on the field. Well it seems CCP knows just one way to balance by overdoing. They make things either ridiculous strong or weak :/ and they like to go with big changes rather than small tweaks Or, like I've been saying, you could squad with a competent tanker. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
Acturus Galaxy Lo-Tech Solutions Ltd 269	Posted - 2013.12.12 09:49:00 - [17] - Quote TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: after playing a lot of FW today this is what needs to be done about those damn tanks. 1. fix that damn speed glitch. It is annoying when you are about to kill a soma or madruger with your AV and it zooms away at mach 3. 2. railguns do way too much damage and shoot too fast. i understand the need for anti tank tanks, but doing over 2000 a shot right now is pretty extreme. especially if you are a gunloggi. 3. Make them more expensive. why the hell does my proto suit cost 20k less than my tank? if most tanks cost around 500k just for the tank itself im sure all these new people would be hesitant about calling 8 tanks per game. 4. make the militia tanks actually militia. give them less slots so we don't have 5000 armor somas and near immortal sicas running around. I am pretty sure this would fix a lot of issues we are running into. however, i do not expect CCP do more than 2 things on this list. I like that tanks are cheap, and I am not a tanker myself. Before 1.7 most tanks you saw would be proto and high skilled tankers that instant killed everything in sight. Now there is allot of variety on the battlefield, tanks are everywhere and tanks are now spending more time fighting other tanks than killing infantry. Only downside is when my team in FW have many tanks deployed and we end up with just 4-5 mercs on foot trying to capture all the letters and ends up loosing. Battlefield has become much more chaotic. And seeing tanks flying in the air is actually funny and not something that bothers me. In FW there is a great risc of hitting your own team mates which kind of keep the tankers under control. I have not yet done any pub matches since 1.7.
TEXA5 HiTM4N ROGUE SPADES 330	Posted - 2013.12.12 13:29:00 - [18] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: after playing a lot of FW today this is what needs to be done about those damn tanks. 1. fix that damn speed glitch. It is annoying when you are about to kill a soma or madruger with your AV and it zooms away at mach 3. Or, you know, you could try to not solo a tank and use teamwork. 2. railguns do way too much damage and shoot too fast. i understand the need for anti tank tanks, but doing over 2000 a shot right now is pretty extreme. especially if you are a gunloggi. It's about time that railguns again do more damage than forge guns, thus making them better for anti-tank work. 3. Make them more expensive. why the hell does my proto suit cost 20k less than my tank? if most tanks cost around 500k just for the tank itself im sure all these new people would be hesitant about calling 8 tanks per game. We spent more than half a year with tanks regularly going for over 1 mil ISK. Don't you think it's about time we had a price cut? The limit for vehicles is 7, not 8. And I'd love to be in a match with 7 v 7 tank battles in which AV does not bother, but rather, infantry actually watches it happen (for the first time ever), experiencing tankers fighting it out. 4. make the militia tanks actually militia. give them less slots so we don't have 5000 armor somas and near immortal sicas running around. MLT tanks use to have 4 HP tank slots, and 2 auxiliary slots; STD had 5 HP tank slots and 2 auxiliary slots, and Enforcers (lol) had 5 HP tank slots and 3 auxiliary slots. Why do you want to nerf tanks even more? Now, MLT tanks have 2 HP tank slots and 2 auxiliary slots, while STD has 3 HP tank slots and 2 auxiliary slots. What more do you infantry want taken away from us? I am pretty sure this would fix a lot of issues we are running into. No, it won't fix your petty complaints until you succeed in having vehicles removed from the game in their entirety, and the SP not refunded. There aren't any issues, you just simply cannot accept that tanks can't soloed with your MLT Starter Anti-Armor fit. You don't tank, so why are you worried about how they're performing? however, i do not expect CCP do more than 2 things on this list. They shouldn't do anything on your list. I am a gunloggi tanker, always have been since closed beta. you always act like everyone who wants balance wants to see tanks nerfed. 1. we had 3 guys with swarms and 1 with a forge and we were able to kill most tanks except for the ones using the speed glitch. This is why i think the hp and modules are fine, except the speed ones. 2. I agree that it is about time railguns do more damage than forges but not to the point i can 2-3 shot all tanks. 3. Might be me but if i take out tank i really want that persons' wallet to have a small dent. not just act like a took out a dropsuit of theirs. I like tanking but not to this point. Everything I say or do has the utmost importance.


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