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Ghost Kaisar
THIRD EARTH INCORPORATED Dark Taboo
1080
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Posted - 2013.12.12 05:41:00 -
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Okay. So we have a few chat channels and a few EVE pilots to drop orbies.
Chosen Matari is a good FW Channel, but I think it's time we really got organized.
See this? THIS is organization. Hat's off to you Aero. That's an excellent group you have made.
HOWEVER. I have a feeling that the Minmatar can do JUST AS WELL.
I want to make a list of the people who are going to make Minmatar FW their main Loyalty. I want to see how many Capsuleers we have to support us, and to create a FW channel that quickly creates groups, gets into battles with solid strategies, and routinely wins their fights (or at least puts up an excellent struggle).
I am posting this, because while the FW channel is great, several people (including me when I first walked in) have trouble finding a decent squad, or even a team that knows what they are doing. We need to have a sense of purpose, and a sense of camaraderie.
Here is an excerpt from EVElopedia. It pertains to the History and mentality of the Minmatar.
For the Minmatar, the most important thing in life is to be able to take care of yourself on your own, and although kin and family play an important role in their society, they prefer identifying themselves by the clan or tribe to which they belong. A clan can have any number of people in it, and its size is largely dictated by the main activity of its members. Most specialize in one area of activity.
In the distant past the clans constantly warred against each other. Since then, however, Minmatar have learned that cooperation is more important, and although the clans still try to maintain their regional and ideological identities, they act as a single unit towards other races.
We may be from different Corps, but we should be united in our stand against the other races. It should be like a second family to you, a group that you can always turn to to back you up.
If you are interested in helping me with this please comment here or mail me. I am not trying to create this group with me at the helm, I want to get the ball rolling. I need someone who can help me achieve this dream.
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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Lorhak Gannarsein
675
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Posted - 2013.12.12 05:43:00 -
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Why bother? You guys are winning anyway.
It's really annoying.
Cosgar: You know, tanks are actually paper thin once their modules are in cooldown.
(Am too sleepy to quote properly)
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hackerzilla
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
609
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Posted - 2013.12.12 05:44:00 -
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I've been trying to get minbros to start playing minmatar factional since 1.7 released. All the rewards are for the most part useless: to pilots, to heavies and to people who use non-minnie suits because, let's be honest, minmatar weapons and suits are underpowered compared to other weapons/suits, save the CR and SMG.
Host of Zilla's Games!
The best defense in not a good offense, it's a good defense.
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Ghost Kaisar
THIRD EARTH INCORPORATED Dark Taboo
1080
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Posted - 2013.12.12 05:46:00 -
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hackerzilla wrote:I've been trying to get minbros to start playing minmatar factional since 1.7 released. All the rewards are for the most part useless: to pilots, to heavies and to people who use non-minnie suits because, let's be honest, minmatar weapons and suits are underpowered compared to other weapons/suits, save the CR and SMG.
So? With good tactics and organization WE CAN DO THIS.
You want to jump on the train with me and help me get this rolling? I may be Caldari by Race, but I'm a Minmatar at heart. I would race change in an instant.
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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Poonmunch
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
672
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Posted - 2013.12.12 05:46:00 -
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I'm with you, bro.
Let me know if you need a hand organizing stuff.
Munch
Dedicated Sniper.
Minmatar Patriot.
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hackerzilla
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
609
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Posted - 2013.12.12 05:48:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:hackerzilla wrote:I've been trying to get minbros to start playing minmatar factional since 1.7 released. All the rewards are for the most part useless: to pilots, to heavies and to people who use non-minnie suits because, let's be honest, minmatar weapons and suits are underpowered compared to other weapons/suits, save the CR and SMG. So? With good tactics and organization WE CAN DO THIS. You want to jump on the train with me and help me get this rolling? I may be Caldari by Race, but I'm a Minmatar at heart. I would race change in an instant. Whaddya know so am I!
Host of Zilla's Games!
The best defense in not a good offense, it's a good defense.
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hackerzilla
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
610
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Posted - 2013.12.12 05:49:00 -
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I would be playing Minmatar FW right about now, but I got kicked from FW, for putting REs on a ENEMY tank and killing it .___.
Host of Zilla's Games!
The best defense in not a good offense, it's a good defense.
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Aero Yassavi
Scions of Athra
3969
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Posted - 2013.12.12 05:50:00 -
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Excellent! This is exactly what I wanted to happen. You have my full endorsement. Hopefully once a lot of the bluedots realize that there is no ISK in FW and that they are better off in public contracts, we can have some nice battles between two well organized factions.
Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Why bother? You guys are winning anyway.
It's really annoying. You are a fool if you think Minmatar players are simply better. Don't even bother to consider how many random players who have no clue who to play Dust are populated the Amarr side (my theory is that as Minmatar are more popular as a whole, since the game portrays Amarr as evil slavers, more players are choosing the queue up for Minmatar leaving those who have all the factions checked and no clue how to play to get thrown in on the Amarr side to create enough matches to meet demand).
Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
1262
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Posted - 2013.12.12 05:50:00 -
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Organized? Hell I'd trade organization for blueberries who aren't worthless.
"The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
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Ghost Kaisar
THIRD EARTH INCORPORATED Dark Taboo
1081
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Posted - 2013.12.12 05:50:00 -
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hackerzilla wrote:I would be playing Minmatar FW right about now, but I got kicked from FW, for putting REs on a ENEMY tank and killing it .___.
I would be, but I'm at my sisters house so that I don't have to drive as far for my finals tomorrow.
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
831
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Posted - 2013.12.12 05:51:00 -
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Make a chat channel. I'll join.
Do your part. Join the revolution. Sabotage FW. Help this game burn!
BURN DUST 2014
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Ghost Kaisar
THIRD EARTH INCORPORATED Dark Taboo
1081
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Posted - 2013.12.12 05:55:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Excellent! This is exactly what I wanted to happen. You have my full endorsement. Hopefully once a lot of the bluedots realize that there is no ISK in FW and that they are better off in public contracts, we can have some nice battles between two well organized factions. Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Why bother? You guys are winning anyway.
It's really annoying. You are a fool if you think Minmatar players are simply better. Don't even bother to consider how many random players who have no clue who to play Dust are populated the Amarr side (my theory is that as Minmatar are more popular as a whole, since the game portrays Amarr as evil slavers, more players are choosing the queue up for Minmatar leaving those who have all the factions checked and no clue how to play to get thrown in on the Amarr side to create enough matches to meet demand).
Amarr has EXCELLENT players. That is the main reason why I want some organization. We might be winning by numbers now, but once the majority of the new FW people move on, we could have a tough time dealing with an organized FW team. I also wanna help turn FW into "PC-Light" and create some awesome fights over territory. Having a sense of pride and community makes the game all the sweeter, and can probably even help make for some exciting battles.
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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Ghost Kaisar
THIRD EARTH INCORPORATED Dark Taboo
1081
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Posted - 2013.12.12 05:57:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Organized? Hell I'd trade organization for blueberries who aren't worthless.
With good teams and que syncs, you can field enough good players to render a few blueberries null and void.
It's a goal, and we can do it.
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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Ghost Kaisar
THIRD EARTH INCORPORATED Dark Taboo
1084
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Posted - 2013.12.12 06:00:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Make a chat channel. I'll join.
I put you on the list.
However, your signature makes me VERY uncomfortable.
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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Aero Yassavi
Scions of Athra
3971
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Posted - 2013.12.12 06:00:00 -
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I don't necessarily agree with creating a PC-lite experience, I personally hate all the players who are bringing that mindset to FW with forge gunners on rooftops over watching hack terminals and nanohives and uplinks spamming as far as the eye can see. We all know that's not how Dust is meant to be played and quite frankly it is no fun. Understandibly, PC is driven by the greed so of course players will do whatever crummy tactics it takes to win. I'd like to think FW players (like true FW players, not PC players who are trying the new thing) are better than that and will fight more respectfully.
Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
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Poonmunch
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
672
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Posted - 2013.12.12 06:07:00 -
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I'm going to tell every Minmatar I know or run across.
The Minmatar chat channels are fine for what they are but a single dedicated organization is what we need. It will be a natural place for the EVE guys to hang out if we can get DUST people together as a group.
Munch
Dedicated Sniper.
Minmatar Patriot.
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Ghost Kaisar
THIRD EARTH INCORPORATED Dark Taboo
1087
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Posted - 2013.12.12 06:09:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:I don't necessarily agree with creating a PC-lite experience, I personally hate all the players who are bringing that mindset to FW with forge gunners on rooftops over watching hack terminals and nanohives and uplinks spamming as far as the eye can see. We all know that's not how Dust is meant to be played and quite frankly it is no fun. Understandibly, PC is driven by the greed so of course players will do whatever crummy tactics it takes to win. I'd like to think FW players (like true FW players, not PC players who are trying the new thing) are better than that and will fight more respectfully.
PC-Light by definition to me is where there is tactics and strategy, but not to point of gamebreaking or dishonorable tactics.
YES, we want to WIN.
But, we are not going to resort to the measures we observe in PC, such as Forge-camping and Equipment spam.
Think of it like this: I want some fun battles where two groups try and kill each other and have a blast doing it. Not like how it is in PC where every grows to hate it and their opponents.
I think you nailed it with this sentence:
Aero Yassavi wrote: Understandibly, PC is driven by the greed so of course players will do whatever crummy tactics it takes to win. I'd like to think FW players (like true FW players, not PC players who are trying the new thing) are better than that and will fight more respectfully.
Let's work together and make this happen. I'm thinking of maybe a Terms of Engagement thread?
Granted, there is no way to police it, but unspoken rules would be nice. It's the thought that counts right? And if the people in the groups all agree with the tactics and the idea of sportsmanship, then there is no reason why it shouldn't work.
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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I-Shayz-I
I-----I
1612
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Posted - 2013.12.12 06:16:00 -
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+1
Let's do this. Minmatar FTW!
Links:
List of Most Important Threads
I make logistics videos!
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
832
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Posted - 2013.12.12 06:17:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Make a chat channel. I'll join. I put you on the list. However, your signature makes me VERY uncomfortable.
This is now a forum only char. I recreated it on its own account. My main Min char is the one I'll be running on Min/Gal. Contact me through Operative 1174 Uuali.
Do your part. Join the revolution. Sabotage FW. Help this game burn!
BURN DUST 2014
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
3033
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Posted - 2013.12.12 06:18:00 -
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Boundless potential.
Freedom of the Republic.
Matari militia.
Ammatar haters. (lol)
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 3
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Ghost Kaisar
THIRD EARTH INCORPORATED Dark Taboo
1087
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Posted - 2013.12.12 06:21:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Boundless potential.
Freedom of the Republic.
Matari militia.
Ammatar haters. (lol)
I really like Boundless Potential.
Also, can I put you and SVER on the list Sinboto?
I know you said a lot of SVER were running FW squads.....
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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Poonmunch
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
674
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Posted - 2013.12.12 06:25:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Boundless potential.
Freedom of the Republic.
Matari militia.
Ammatar haters. (lol)
Some resources:
Clan Name Generator 1
Clan Name Generator 2
Clan Name Generator 3
Clan Name Generator 4
I'll keep looking.
Keep those suggestions rolling in.
Munch
Dedicated Sniper.
Minmatar Patriot.
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knight guard fury
Brave Blueberries Inc
74
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Posted - 2013.12.12 06:26:00 -
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im with you guys all the way! im a very skilled Minmatar soldier ready for combat
I've been waiting for the new Matari gear to come to dust and now it has so im fully committed to fight for the Winmatar FW.
chat channel names(suggestions):
- Republic HQ
- Minmatar coalition
- Winmatar republic
- tribes united
- fight for freedom
- republic command ill think of more later.
I'm very interested in helping out in the war efforts for the Minmatar
Jack of all trade, Master of none
In Rust, We Trust
true to the Republic
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Poonmunch
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
674
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Posted - 2013.12.12 06:27:00 -
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The Duct Tape Mafia.
Ok, couldn't resist.
Munch
Dedicated Sniper.
Minmatar Patriot.
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Ghost Kaisar
THIRD EARTH INCORPORATED Dark Taboo
1087
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Posted - 2013.12.12 06:29:00 -
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Here is my fav's:
The Duct Tape Mafia (I love humor) Defender's of the Republic Boundless Potential Tribes United
Minmatar Faction Warfare: Let's get Organized
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I-Shayz-I
I-----I
1613
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Posted - 2013.12.12 06:29:00 -
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I just got invited to a channel named Core Republic Militia
It's mercs only, no pilots, password protected.
Links:
List of Most Important Threads
I make logistics videos!
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knight guard fury
Brave Blueberries Inc
74
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Posted - 2013.12.12 06:31:00 -
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just for LOLZ - we make our stuff from scraps
- hold your **** together
- im trash and proud
- dust-tape beats all
In Rust, We Trust
true to the Republic
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Ghost Kaisar
THIRD EARTH INCORPORATED Dark Taboo
1087
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Posted - 2013.12.12 06:31:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:I just got invited to a channel named Core Republic Militia
It's mercs only, no pilots, password protected.
I haven't made anything yet. I'm typing this from my sisters apartment.
That's a pretty sick name though. Shame it's already taken.
Can you talk to the creator? Can we get a merge?
Minmatar Faction Warfare: Let's get Organized
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knight guard fury
Brave Blueberries Inc
74
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Posted - 2013.12.12 06:31:00 -
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sadly I wont be on till the weekends
In Rust, We Trust
true to the Republic
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Poonmunch
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
675
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Posted - 2013.12.12 06:32:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:I just got invited to a channel named Core Republic Militia
It's mercs only, no pilots, password protected. I haven't made anything yet. I'm typing this from my sisters apartment. That's a pretty sick name though. Shame it's already taken. Can you talk to the creator? Can we get a merge?
A merge would be cool.
We need to stay united.
Munch
Dedicated Sniper.
Minmatar Patriot.
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