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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.12 01:26:00 -
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Why not just make piloting an HAV require teamwork?
I mean AV currently requires teamwork right?
Why not?
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
1992
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Posted - 2013.12.12 01:28:00 -
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Because Tanks are what Heavies should be like. It should take more than one person to take down both a tank and a Heavy.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.12 01:29:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Because Tanks are what Heavies should be like. It should take more than one person to take down both a tank and a Heavy.
Bro, do you even CreoDron Shotgun? Or Scout?
DUST 514 just went full COD.
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Flix Keptick
Red Star.
EoN.
1527
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Posted - 2013.12.12 01:30:00 -
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Because Patrick57 is right. Besides, infantry still does most of the killing on the battlefield. Can't kill a tank? hide from it!!! (or jihad lav it, your choice)
"HP needs no buff, certain weapons need nerf. Or else all other become obsolete."
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
1996
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Posted - 2013.12.12 01:31:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Patrick57 wrote:Because Tanks are what Heavies should be like. It should take more than one person to take down both a tank and a Heavy. Bro, do you even CreoDron Shotgun? Or Scout?
No, because those are broken too. They die faster than the speed of those tanks.
And the Shotgun....
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Flix Keptick
Red Star.
EoN.
1527
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Posted - 2013.12.12 01:31:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Patrick57 wrote:Because Tanks are what Heavies should be like. It should take more than one person to take down both a tank and a Heavy. Bro, do you even CreoDron Shotgun? Or Scout?
Bro, do you even Dust 514?
"HP needs no buff, certain weapons need nerf. Or else all other become obsolete."
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Long Evity
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Posted - 2013.12.12 01:31:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Why not just make piloting an HAV require teamwork?
I mean AV currently requires teamwork right?
Why not?
This thread sucks, mines better. 
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1867
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Posted - 2013.12.12 01:34:00 -
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Flix Keptick wrote:Because Patrick57 is right. Besides, infantry still does most of the killing on the battlefield. Can't kill a tank? hide from it!!! (or jihad lav it, your choice)
Jihad LAV it huh?
Funny how I tried that, and now I decided to visit the forums because I can't play FW until downtime. And I don't like PUBs.
Hide from it?
Not every map is a city, and what happens when your on a map like Manus Peak?
DUST 514 just went full COD.
Never go full COD.
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
1996
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Posted - 2013.12.12 01:34:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Flix Keptick wrote:Because Patrick57 is right. Besides, infantry still does most of the killing on the battlefield. Can't kill a tank? hide from it!!! (or jihad lav it, your choice) Jihad LAV it huh? Funny how I tried that, and now I decided to visit the forums because I can't play FW until downtime. And I don't like PUBs. Hide from it? Not every map is a city, and what happens when your on a map like Manus Peak?
Play PC
Oh, wait.....
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1867
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Posted - 2013.12.12 01:35:00 -
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Long Evity wrote:Atiim wrote:Why not just make piloting an HAV require teamwork?
I mean AV currently requires teamwork right?
Why not? This thread sucks, mines better.
I haven't read your thread, but okay. 
DUST 514 just went full COD.
Never go full COD.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1867
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Posted - 2013.12.12 01:38:00 -
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Flix Keptick wrote:Atiim wrote:Patrick57 wrote:Because Tanks are what Heavies should be like. It should take more than one person to take down both a tank and a Heavy. Bro, do you even CreoDron Shotgun? Or Scout? Bro, do you even Dust 514?
One does not simply "Dust 514".
Being able to "Dust 514" would imply that this game is actually different and beyond your average lobby FPS shooter with a TTK faster than your joystick can rotate.
And what's the problem? As long as the heavy isn't using an AR or SCR I can usually handle them with my ADV suit. Just simply go behind them and move behind him constantly as he turns around.
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Anmol Singh
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
469
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Posted - 2013.12.12 01:38:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Patrick57 wrote:Because Tanks are what Heavies should be like. It should take more than one person to take down both a tank and a Heavy. Bro, do you even CreoDron Shotgun? Or Scout?
You just proved his point.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.12 01:39:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Atiim wrote:Patrick57 wrote:Because Tanks are what Heavies should be like. It should take more than one person to take down both a tank and a Heavy. Bro, do you even CreoDron Shotgun? Or Scout? You just proved his point.
How?
It only takes one good scout to kill a heavy.
DUST 514 just went full COD.
Never go full COD.
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
2000
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Posted - 2013.12.12 01:40:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Flix Keptick wrote:Atiim wrote:Patrick57 wrote:Because Tanks are what Heavies should be like. It should take more than one person to take down both a tank and a Heavy. Bro, do you even CreoDron Shotgun? Or Scout? Bro, do you even Dust 514? One does not simply "Dust 514". Being able to "Dust 514" would imply that this game is actually different and beyond your average lobby FPS shooter with a TTK faster than your joystick can rotate. And what's the problem? As long as the heavy isn't using an AR or SCR I can usually handle them with my ADV suit. Just simply go behind them and move behind him constantly as he turns around.
It is different. I've never, in any other game, been able to die so quickly to so many things.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.12 01:40:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Because Tanks are what Heavies should be like. It should take more than one person to take down both a tank and a Heavy.
Also, heavies require teamwork to be successful.
See: Logistics
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.12 01:43:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:
Play PC
Oh, wait.....
Another one?
You can't balance everything off of one gamemode.
Not everyone plays PC, so why should everything be balanced around it?
Also, I do play PC. In fact I helped Days Of Ruin get their first district not too long ago.
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Long Evity
695
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Posted - 2013.12.12 01:45:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Long Evity wrote:Atiim wrote:Why not just make piloting an HAV require teamwork?
I mean AV currently requires teamwork right?
Why not? This thread sucks, mines better. I haven't read your thread, but okay.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=127728&find=unread
And stop talking about infantry, only bad heavies get solo'd by scouts. And your lack of PC does indeed hurt your validity of your opinions. But i'm sure you'll find support from other players who dont PC and find it wrong.
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
2000
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Posted - 2013.12.12 01:46:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Patrick57 wrote:Play PC
Oh, wait..... Another one? You can't balance everything off of one gamemode. Not everyone plays PC, so why should everything be balanced around it? Also, I do play PC. In fact I helped Days Of Ruin get their first district not too long ago.
I wasn't implying you don't play, just that it's unplayable.
And why not? It's the most competitive game mode. All the other game modes are less hardcore than this one, so it should be balanced first and then the rest balanced around it.
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
625
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Posted - 2013.12.12 01:52:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Why not just make piloting an HAV require teamwork?
I mean AV currently requires teamwork right?
Why not?
They already are, a tank is the ISK value of three proto'ed out clones, or more. One player is paying for this out of their own pocket for one death. Team work should be reqire from AV not tanks.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1878
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Posted - 2013.12.12 01:56:00 -
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Long Evity wrote:Atiim wrote:Long Evity wrote:Atiim wrote:Why not just make piloting an HAV require teamwork?
I mean AV currently requires teamwork right?
Why not? This thread sucks, mines better. I haven't read your thread, but okay. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=127728&find=unreadAnd stop talking about infantry, only bad heavies get solo'd by scouts. And your lack of PC does indeed hurt your validity of your opinions. But i'm sure you'll find support from other players who dont PC and find it wrong.
I wouldn't say lack of PC. I'd put it more as "Got sick and tired of the 5 FPS and lollag and don't play it as much anymore".
And to be fair, 99.999999999999% of this game's playerbase are filled with bad players. How else could you explain the atrocity known as FW Blueberries?
And I do still play PC. Just not as much anymore.
DUST 514 just went full COD.
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KING CHECKMATE
Scions of Athra
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Posted - 2013.12.12 01:56:00 -
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Balance means 1 player will always have a chance to drop the OTHER player, regardless of sp,ISK invested, equipment chosen.
ALL FPS have this.
As it is , 1 Aver cant take on 1 tank. 1 tanker can take many Avers out.
There by, there is NO balance. simple as that.
If AV needs Teamwork , so should Tanking.
If you fail to see this, you are a scrub or a tanker. (or probably both)
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
2004
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Posted - 2013.12.12 01:57:00 -
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Atiim wrote:I wouldn't say lack of PC. I'd put it more as "Got sick and tired of the 5 FPS and lollag and don't play it as much anymore".
And to be fair, 99.999999999999% of this game's playerbase are filled with bad players. How else could you explain the atrocity known as FW Blueberries?
And I do still play PC. Just not as much anymore.
Who did you play against when you weren't "sick and tired" of PC?
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Anmol Singh
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
473
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Posted - 2013.12.12 01:59:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Balance means 1 player will always have a chance to drop the OTHER player, regardless of sp,ISK invested, equipment choosed.
ALL FPS have this.
As it is , 1 Aver cant take on 1 tank. 1 tanker can take many Avers out.
There by, there is NO balance. simple as that.
If AV needs Teamwork , so should Tanking.
If you fail to see this, you are a scrub or a tanker. (or probably both)
Totally, make my tank 50k isk and sure... in 1.6, a 9mil sp player with a 2.5 mil isk tank with lots of tanking experience gets killed by one 47k isk 900k sp proto Fg that can see the whole map cuz the bch camps on tower...
If thats balance then i quit!
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.12 02:02:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Atiim wrote:I wouldn't say lack of PC. I'd put it more as "Got sick and tired of the 5 FPS and lollag and don't play it as much anymore".
And to be fair, 99.999999999999% of this game's playerbase are filled with bad players. How else could you explain the atrocity known as FW Blueberries?
And I do still play PC. Just not as much anymore. Who did you play against when you weren't "sick and tired" of PC?
I did some work for D3LTA back when I was with them, but I got tired of PC around the time where I decided to split.
Ever since me and my friends made [SSQP] I haven't played PC besides my work for Days Of Ruin.
Is there a point to your question?
Or are you one of those "leul ur K/D is lower than mine, STFU and get gud nub" kind of people?
[edit] Not sure on who I was fighting back in D3LTA (So long ago lol) But when I was working for DOR I was mainly fighting Planetary Retaliation Organization. DOR needed my help because they decided to field some ringers from Ahrendee Mercenaries.
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
2005
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Posted - 2013.12.12 02:04:00 -
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Atiim wrote:I did some work for D3LTA back when I was with them, but I got tired of PC around the time where I decided to split. Ever since me and my friends made [SSQP] I haven't played PC besides my work for Days Of Ruin. Is there a point to your question? Or are you one of those "leul ur K/D is lower than mine, STFU and get gud nub" kind of people?
I don't give a **** about K/D, it's a meaningless stat. My K/D went down since today, I'm not crying about it am I?
Yes, there is a point.
When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE!
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1878
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Posted - 2013.12.12 02:07:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:
Totally, make my tank 50k isk and sure... in 1.6, a 9mil sp player with a 2.5 mil isk tank with lots of tanking experience gets killed by one 47k isk 900k sp proto Fg that can see the whole map cuz the bch camps on tower...
If thats balance then i quit!
Your tank already costs 97,500k ISK. My best AV suit is double the price.
If you can't be soloed, then you shouldn't be able to run solo. If you can be soloed, then you should be able to run solo.
But if you quit, I can has your ISK?
DUST 514 just went full COD.
Never go full COD.
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KING CHECKMATE
Scions of Athra
2990
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Posted - 2013.12.12 02:14:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:
Totally, make my tank 50k isk and sure... in 1.6, a 9mil sp player with a 2.5 mil isk tank with lots of tanking experience gets killed by one 47k isk 900k sp proto Fg that can see the whole map cuz the bch camps on tower...
If thats balance then i quit!
You are just a SELFISH player like most vehicle drivers.
the SP/ISK/Time you have invested DOES NOT GIVE YOU THE RIGHT to stomp on new players (for example) without counter.
EVERY FPS game has balance. So much that a BASIC fit can take out the most experienced player with better equipment if played right.
Same as a MLT AR can down a PROTO dropsuit with PROTO EVERYTHING, a single AVers should have a chance vs any kind of tank.
If cyou cant understand how this is balance and how it helps a game, then you can Quit!
What you are looking for is a PAY TO WIN game... .those fit you more!
WE DONT WANT YOU HERE.
Thanks to people like you we have yet another season of Tank514....
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Anmol Singh
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
473
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Posted - 2013.12.12 02:21:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:
Totally, make my tank 50k isk and sure... in 1.6, a 9mil sp player with a 2.5 mil isk tank with lots of tanking experience gets killed by one 47k isk 900k sp proto Fg that can see the whole map cuz the bch camps on tower...
If thats balance then i quit!
You are just a SELFISH player like most vehicle drivers.the SP/ISK/Time you have invested DOES NOT GIVE YOU THE RIGHT to stomp on new players (for example) without counter. EVERY FPS game has balance. So much that a BASIC fit can take out the most experienced player with better equipment if played right. Same as a MLT AR can down a PROTO dropsuit with PROTO EVERYTHING, a single AVers should have a chance vs any kind of tank.If cyou cant understand how this is balance and how it helps a game, then you can Quit! What you are looking for is a PAY TO WIN game... .those fit you more! WE DONT WANT YOU HERE.
EVERY FPS DOESN'T HAVE A FKING ECONOMY!!! WHEN WE DIES IN BF4, IT MEANS NOTHING, NO HARM DONE BUT IN DUST ITS DIFFERENT. I THOUGH A GUY LIKE YOU WOULD KNOW BUT IT TURNS OUT YOU'RE A COMPLETE DUMB ASS.
Why does it take 0 skill to kill with an AR but a lot of skill to actually pilot a tank? A militia AR is very effective but why aren't militia tanks(1.6). Why do tanks cost so much? they get blown up in like a clip of a proto FG (not me but most new player) why does it take 2 volley of proto swams to kill a soma. These people stand no chance against proto AV and it takes tremendous skill to even pilot a tank.
Anyway, who the fk said they wanted you?
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.12 02:33:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:
EVERY FPS DOESN'T HAVE A FKING ECONOMY!!! WHEN WE DIES IN BF4, IT MEANS NOTHING, NO HARM DONE BUT IN DUST ITS DIFFERENT. I THOUGH A GUY LIKE YOU WOULD KNOW BUT IT TURNS OUT YOU'RE A COMPLETE DUMB ASS.
Why does it take 0 skill to kill with an AR but a lot of skill to actually pilot a tank? A militia AR is very effective but why aren't militia tanks(1.6). Why do tanks cost so much? they get blown up in like a clip of a proto FG (not me but most new player) why does it take 2 volley of proto swams to kill a soma. These people stand no chance against proto AV and it takes tremendous skill to even pilot a tank.
Anyway, who the fk said they wanted you?
What "skill" does piloting an HAV have?
Do you mean SP? I mad a Sica that can hold it's own against PRO AV with 0 SP investment.
Do you mean actual skill? Using an HAV requires the same "skill" as an AR.
The Assault Rifles are completely broken through all tiers, so that analogy is not credible. Use a different MLT Weapon as your example. '
It doesn't take two volleys of PRO swarms to destroy a Soma anymore. And you think new infantry stand a chance against a good player? And if they are in a PRO suit?
New players shouldn't be babied to the point where they can withstand and even the best players. What you just said is like saying "Those new players should stand a good chance against 16 people from TeamPlayers, Imperfects, Fatal Absolution, Nyain San, Molon Labe, Ahrendee Mercenaries, NAO, SCAIT, Science For Death, and other corps that have good players in them.
And nobody wanted or even needed you here either. You have no concept of balance and would like nothing more than a new release of Tank 514: The Uprising.
You don't even attempt to come up with ideas on how to balance things, so why you would criticize anyone is well beyond my comprehension.
DUST 514 just went full COD.
Never go full COD.
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KING CHECKMATE
Scions of Athra
2995
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Posted - 2013.12.12 02:34:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:
EVERY FPS DOESN'T HAVE A FKING ECONOMY!!! WHEN WE DIES IN BF4, IT MEANS NOTHING, NO HARM DONE BUT IN DUST ITS DIFFERENT. I THOUGH A GUY LIKE YOU WOULD KNOW BUT IT TURNS OUT YOU'RE A COMPLETE DUMB ASS.
Why does it take 0 skill to kill with an AR but a lot of skill to actually pilot a tank? A militia AR is very effective but why aren't militia tanks(1.6). Why do tanks cost so much? they get blown up in like a clip of a proto FG (not me but most new player) why does it take 2 volley of proto swams to kill a soma. These people stand no chance against proto AV and it takes tremendous skill to even pilot a tank.
Anyway, who the fk said they wanted you?
SP/ISK/Experience/TIME invested gives you and EDGE over the enemy.
It should NOT make you inmune.
A clip of ANY FG, wont take down ANY TANK. Prooved it today with my Proto Breach FG with 2cx da mods and proficicency 5 vs a soma.
BTW ,EVERYBODY thinks their weapon/vehicle takes skill. While everybody else thinks its EZ mode.
Ask DS pilots,Mass driver users, Sniper Rifle users,Tanker users (like yourself) or SCR users like myself.
IMO. in 1.7 = Being in a battleffield surrounded by Automatic weapons,enemies with 700+EHP, with my SCR that can overheat if misused , getting headshot after headshot with it and surviving with 500 total EHP , while playing as a lone wolf in amarr FW , vs Matari Corps all day long ; takes skill. But in your opinion im just being a skill less FOTM chaser no?
well.AT LEAST IM NOT IMMORTAL, like tanks....
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Anmol Singh
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
473
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Posted - 2013.12.12 02:35:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:
EVERY FPS DOESN'T HAVE A FKING ECONOMY!!! WHEN WE DIES IN BF4, IT MEANS NOTHING, NO HARM DONE BUT IN DUST ITS DIFFERENT. I THOUGH A GUY LIKE YOU WOULD KNOW BUT IT TURNS OUT YOU'RE A COMPLETE DUMB ASS.
Why does it take 0 skill to kill with an AR but a lot of skill to actually pilot a tank? A militia AR is very effective but why aren't militia tanks(1.6). Why do tanks cost so much? they get blown up in like a clip of a proto FG (not me but most new player) why does it take 2 volley of proto swams to kill a soma. These people stand no chance against proto AV and it takes tremendous skill to even pilot a tank.
Anyway, who the fk said they wanted you?
What "skill" does piloting an HAV have? Do you mean SP? I mad a Sica that can hold it's own against PRO AV with 0 SP investment. Do you mean actual skill? Using an HAV requires the same "skill" as an AR. The Assault Rifles are completely broken through all tiers, so that analogy is not credible. Use a different MLT Weapon as your example. ' It doesn't take two volleys of PRO swarms to destroy a Soma anymore. And you think new infantry stand a chance against a good player? And if they are in a PRO suit? New players shouldn't be babied to the point where they can withstand and even the best players. What you just said is like saying "Those new players should stand a good chance against 16 people from TeamPlayers, Imperfects, Fatal Absolution, Nyain San, Molon Labe, Ahrendee Mercenaries, NAO, SCAIT, Science For Death, and other corps that have good players in them. And nobody wanted or even needed you here either. You have no concept of balance and would like nothing more than a new release of Tank 514: The Uprising. You don't even attempt to come up with ideas on how to balance things, so why you would criticize anyone is well beyond my comprehension.
Before reading the piece of utter sh*t u wrote, im here to say that i was talking about 1.6, militia tanks are now boss...
BTW, its much harder to hit infantry with a FG than a tank. Tanks are still easy to kill, its just noobs who have no clue wtf they are doing shooting at a tank with resistance up. (mines always up except for like a 5 second window AV has) I am a pilot who invested SP and i am pleased now, My tank is actually worth it. Anyway, its really easy to avoid a tank, i have been doing so on my infantry alts since uprising.
Sagaris lover!!!
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KING CHECKMATE
Scions of Athra
2997
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Posted - 2013.12.12 02:42:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:
Before reading the piece of utter sh*t u wrote, im here to say that i was talking about 1.6, militia tanks are now OP...
BTW, its much harder to hit infantry with a FG than a tank. Tanks are still easy to kill, its just noobs who have no clue wtf they are doing shooting at a tank with resistance up. (LOL i wont mention the fact tanks will flee at the speed of light 100% of the times just before the Hardeners are down) I am a pilot who invested SP and i am pleased now, My tank is OP as i think it should be. Anyway, its really easy to avoid a tank, i have been doing so on my infantry alts since uprising. Same as Godin, i'll say whatever i can to keep the balance in our side
Fixed*
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Anmol Singh
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
473
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Posted - 2013.12.12 02:46:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:
EVERY FPS DOESN'T HAVE A FKING ECONOMY!!! WHEN WE DIES IN BF4, IT MEANS NOTHING, NO HARM DONE BUT IN DUST ITS DIFFERENT. I THOUGH A GUY LIKE YOU WOULD KNOW BUT IT TURNS OUT YOU'RE A COMPLETE DUMB ASS.
Why does it take 0 skill to kill with an AR but a lot of skill to actually pilot a tank? A militia AR is very effective but why aren't militia tanks(1.6). Why do tanks cost so much? they get blown up in like a clip of a proto FG (not me but most new player) why does it take 2 volley of proto swams to kill a soma. These people stand no chance against proto AV and it takes tremendous skill to even pilot a tank.
Anyway, who the fk said they wanted you?
I am a noob, i have no clue how to take out tanks... I go on forums and demand nerfs so balance can be demolished and i can forever spit hell on tanks. well.AT LEAST IM NOT IMMORTAL, like tanks....
9 mil sp, 2.5 mil isk, experience since i started dust 514, can i survive a 47k isk 900k sp foregun? barley (1.6). Any way, you are really fking stupid for shooting at a tank with resistance up. And you assume driving a tank worth millions (shield in 1.6) and taking down madrugars was unskillful, you think driving away form danger was unskillful. I am incapable of taking on Proto forgeguns, so when i know hes there, i run away and wait for him to be killed and let all the infantry think i left so they put away their AV and i come back and own them. Tanks take tremendous skill especially knowing that your opponent has an advantage over you all the fking time.
1 thing i leaned from your post. You are a dumb ass who shoots at tanks that have resistance up!! GOD DAM I HATE IT WHEN BASTARDS LIKE YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT TANKS BEING IMMORTAL. They are not immortal- all it takes is a sica. Or getting the right chance. Yes i agree tanks need a speed nerf but other than that, they are working as intended (active tanks who cannot sit in a position for prolonged periods of time)
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MONKEY CHEEKS
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.12.12 02:53:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:
EVERY FPS DOESN'T HAVE A FKING ECONOMY!!! WHEN WE DIES IN BF4, IT MEANS NOTHING, NO HARM DONE BUT IN DUST ITS DIFFERENT. I THOUGH A GUY LIKE YOU WOULD KNOW BUT IT TURNS OUT YOU'RE A COMPLETE DUMB ASS.
Why does it take 0 skill to kill with an AR but a lot of skill to actually pilot a tank? A militia AR is very effective but why aren't militia tanks(1.6). Why do tanks cost so much? they get blown up in like a clip of a proto FG (not me but most new player) why does it take 2 volley of proto swams to kill a soma. These people stand no chance against proto AV and it takes tremendous skill to even pilot a tank.
Anyway, who the fk said they wanted you?
SP/ISK/Experience/TIME invested gives you and EDGE over the enemy. It should NOT make you inmune.
A clip of ANY FG, wont take down ANY TANK. Prooved it today with my Proto Breach FG with 2cx da mods and proficicency 5 vs a soma. BTW ,EVERYBODY thinks their weapon/vehicle takes skill. While everybody else thinks its EZ mode. Ask DS pilots,Mass driver users, Sniper Rifle users,Tanker users (like yourself) or SCR users like myself. IMO. in 1.7 = Being in a battleffield surrounded by Automatic weapons,enemies with 700+EHP, with my SCR that can overheat if misused , getting headshot after headshot with it and surviving with 500 total EHP , while playing as a lone wolf in amarr FW , vs Matari Corps all day long ; takes skill. But in your opinion im just being a skill less FOTM chaser no? well.AT LEAST IM NOT IMMORTAL, like tanks....
let the tank roam for a while letting it think that its safe, then when it's not flashing, hit it with Av. insta pop. |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.12 02:54:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:
9 mil sp, 2.5 mil isk, experience since i started dust 514, can i survive a 47k isk 900k sp foregun? barley (1.6). Any way, you are really fking stupid for shooting at a tank with resistance up. And you assume driving a tank worth millions (shield in 1.6) and taking down madrugars was unskillful, you think driving away form danger was unskillful. I am incapable of taking on Proto forgeguns, so when i know hes there, i run away and wait for him to be killed and let all the infantry think i left so they put away their AV and i come back and own them. Tanks take tremendous skill especially knowing that your opponent has an advantage over you all the fking time.
1 thing i leaned from your post. You are a dumb ass who shoots at tanks that have resistance up!! GOD DAM I HATE IT WHEN BASTARDS LIKE YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT TANKS BEING IMMORTAL. They are not immortal- all it takes is a sica. Or getting the right chance. Yes i agree tanks need a speed nerf but other than that, they are working as intended (active tanks who cannot sit in a position for prolonged periods of time)
Stop complaining about HAVs in 1.6. Does this look like 1.6 to you? (Well, maybe cosmetic wise; but still)
When an AV guy was attacking me, I activated what was called "Carapace Armor Hardners" and "Nitrous" to escape with plenty of HP left. Maybe you should have used these. They work wonders ya know.
And even without the whole lolnitrous, HAVs are still fast enough to escape easily with little to no harm or risk whatsoever. And the whole "aura" that surrounds an HAV when it's hardners are active don't even render past 15m.
Even SLs rendered past 15m.
HAVs require no skill beyond that of the AR. Please tell me how they do. I love ripping pilots a new.
DUST 514 just went full COD.
Never go full COD.
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KING CHECKMATE
Scions of Athra
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Posted - 2013.12.12 02:57:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:
EVERY FPS DOESN'T HAVE A FKING ECONOMY!!! WHEN WE DIES IN BF4, IT MEANS NOTHING, NO HARM DONE BUT IN DUST ITS DIFFERENT. I THOUGH A GUY LIKE YOU WOULD KNOW BUT IT TURNS OUT YOU'RE A COMPLETE DUMB ASS.
Why does it take 0 skill to kill with an AR but a lot of skill to actually pilot a tank? A militia AR is very effective but why aren't militia tanks(1.6). Why do tanks cost so much? they get blown up in like a clip of a proto FG (not me but most new player) why does it take 2 volley of proto swams to kill a soma. These people stand no chance against proto AV and it takes tremendous skill to even pilot a tank.
Anyway, who the fk said they wanted you?
I am a noob, i have no clue how to take out tanks... I go on forums and demand nerfs so balance can be demolished and i can forever spit hell on tanks. well.AT LEAST IM NOT MORTAL, like tanks.... 9 mil sp, 2.5 mil isk, experience since i started dust 514, can i survive a 47k isk 900k sp foregun? barley (1.6). Any way, you are really fking stupid for shooting at a tank with resistance up. And you assume driving a tank worth millions (shield in 1.6) and taking down madrugars was unskillful, you think driving away form danger was unskillful. I am incapable of taking on Proto forgeguns, so when i know hes there, i run away and wait for him to be killed and let all the infantry think i left so they put away their AV and i come back and own them. Tanks take tremendous skill especially knowing that your opponent has an advantage over you all the fking time. 1 thing i leaned from your post. You are a dumb ass who shoots at tanks that have resistance up!! GOD DAM I HATE IT WHEN BASTARDS LIKE YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT TANKS BEING IMMORTAL. They are not immortal- all it takes is a sica. Or getting the right chance. Yes i agree tanks need a speed nerf but other than that, they are working as intended (active tanks who cannot sit in a position for prolonged periods of time) Fixed* BTW. Atiim, your awful at this game... You are not a tanker... you never will be... you are a true infantry man at heart.
Ok lets do this:
GÖª You nerf their speed. Seriously.
GÖªYou give us back AV weapons as they were in 1.6.
SCR User Since release. Charge shot / Aim to the head / Listen to QQ
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Anmol Singh
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.12.12 02:58:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:
9 mil sp, 2.5 mil isk, experience since i started dust 514, can i survive a 47k isk 900k sp foregun? barley (1.6). Any way, you are really fking stupid for shooting at a tank with resistance up. And you assume driving a tank worth millions (shield in 1.6) and taking down madrugars was unskillful, you think driving away form danger was unskillful. I am incapable of taking on Proto forgeguns, so when i know hes there, i run away and wait for him to be killed and let all the infantry think i left so they put away their AV and i come back and own them. Tanks take tremendous skill especially knowing that your opponent has an advantage over you all the fking time.
1 thing i leaned from your post. You are a dumb ass who shoots at tanks that have resistance up!! GOD DAM I HATE IT WHEN BASTARDS LIKE YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT TANKS BEING IMMORTAL. They are not immortal- all it takes is a sica. Or getting the right chance. Yes i agree tanks need a speed nerf but other than that, they are working as intended (active tanks who cannot sit in a position for prolonged periods of time)
Stop complaining about HAVs in 1.6. Does this look like 1.6 to you? (Well, maybe cosmetic wise; but still) When an AV guy was attacking me, I activated what was called "Carapace Armor Hardners" and "Nitrous" to escape with plenty of HP left. Maybe you should have used these. They work wonders ya know. And even without the whole lolnitrous, HAVs are still fast enough to escape easily with little to no harm or risk whatsoever. And the whole "aura" that surrounds an HAV when it's hardners are active don't even render past 15m. Even SLs rendered past 15m. HAVs require no skill beyond that of the AR. Please tell me how they do. I love ripping pilots a new.
Dude, tanks are fine now expect a bit fast. I have no problem now but apparently noob Avers like PUS*Y CHECKMATE want tanks nerfed because he doesn't like to use his brain.. Hardners work wonders but when they are off, the only place you want to be is in the redline.. anyway Atiim, i could almost one hit you with a clip of XT-201 and my gunner would finish you off and ill be repping shiled while you shot me with blaster. You obviously went for the wrong tank. I didn't expect any better from a guy like you.
Sagaris lover!!!
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Anmol Singh
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
477
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Posted - 2013.12.12 02:59:00 -
[38] - Quote
KING CHECKMATE wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:
EVERY FPS DOESN'T HAVE A FKING ECONOMY!!! WHEN WE DIES IN BF4, IT MEANS NOTHING, NO HARM DONE BUT IN DUST ITS DIFFERENT. I THOUGH A GUY LIKE YOU WOULD KNOW BUT IT TURNS OUT YOU'RE A COMPLETE DUMB ASS.
Why does it take 0 skill to kill with an AR but a lot of skill to actually pilot a tank? A militia AR is very effective but why aren't militia tanks(1.6). Why do tanks cost so much? they get blown up in like a clip of a proto FG (not me but most new player) why does it take 2 volley of proto swams to kill a soma. These people stand no chance against proto AV and it takes tremendous skill to even pilot a tank.
Anyway, who the fk said they wanted you?
I am a noob, i have no clue how to take out tanks... I go on forums and demand nerfs so balance can be demolished and i can forever spit hell on tanks. well.AT LEAST IM NOT MORTAL, like tanks.... 9 mil sp, 2.5 mil isk, experience since i started dust 514, can i survive a 47k isk 900k sp foregun? barley (1.6). Any way, you are really fking stupid for shooting at a tank with resistance up. And you assume driving a tank worth millions (shield in 1.6) and taking down madrugars was unskillful, you think driving away form danger was unskillful. I am incapable of taking on Proto forgeguns, so when i know hes there, i run away and wait for him to be killed and let all the infantry think i left so they put away their AV and i come back and own them. Tanks take tremendous skill especially knowing that your opponent has an advantage over you all the fking time. 1 thing i leaned from your post. You are a dumb ass who shoots at tanks that have resistance up!! GOD DAM I HATE IT WHEN BASTARDS LIKE YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT TANKS BEING IMMORTAL. They are not immortal- all it takes is a sica. Or getting the right chance. Yes i agree tanks need a speed nerf but other than that, they are working as intended (active tanks who cannot sit in a position for prolonged periods of time) Fixed* BTW. Atiim, your awful at this game... You are not a tanker... you never will be... you are a true infantry man at heart. Ok lets do this:GÖª You nerf their speed. Seriously. GÖªYou give us back AV weapons as they were in 1.6.
You want you OP Av back? Awww, look at poor you. You want to shoot me from 400m away with your swarms? You want to charge you Fg in 1.8 seconds? Dude, get in an LAV, wait and see till the resistance turn off then hit the bch, hes gonna pop like a balloon. (if speed was nerfed)
Nerf the nitro mods and reduce armor tank acceleration. militia nitros gives you wings. (redbull referance)
Sagaris lover!!!
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1880
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Posted - 2013.12.12 03:00:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:
BTW. Atiim, your awful at this game... You are not a tanker... you never will be... you are a true infantry man at heart.
If you don't think that I am a tanker, then your eyes do truly betray you. You have seen my tank before yet refuse to believe that I am a tanker. Open your eyes and admit that you were wrong already.
I am a true everything at heart. I love everything in this game with all of my tiny, immortal heart.
Which is exactly why I use these forums. So I could achieve balance between everyone and everything.
DUST 514 just went full COD.
Never go full COD.
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Anmol Singh
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
477
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Posted - 2013.12.12 03:02:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:
BTW. Atiim, your awful at this game... You are not a tanker... you never will be... you are a true infantry man at heart.
If you don't think that I am a tanker, then your eyes do truly betray you. You have seen my tank before yet refuse to believe that I am a tanker. Open your eyes and admit that you were wrong already. I am a true everything at heart. I love everything in this game with all of my tiny, immortal heart. Which is exactly why I use these forums. So I could achieve balance between everyone and everything.
You are a tanker? hmmm... ill consider it but you do know that none of the other tankers on the forums see you as a tanker aswell...
Sagaris lover!!!
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KING CHECKMATE
Scions of Athra
3002
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Posted - 2013.12.12 03:03:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:
You want you OP Av back? Awww, look at poor you.
Nerf the nitro mods and reduce armor tank acceleration. militia nitros gives you wings. (redbull referance)
You are biased. Sad.
trying to sound skillfull and full of knowlege but you deny tanks are Overpowered in 1.7 and say bringing back 1.6 to fight these tanks would be OP for AVers, while it would ONLY give us a fighting chance.
Im done talking with you. you only know how to insult, but obviously know very little about this game OR balance, regardless of your time playing it.....
SCR User Since release. Charge shot / Aim to the head / Listen to QQ
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Anmol Singh
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
477
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Posted - 2013.12.12 03:06:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:
You want you OP Av back? Awww, look at poor you.
Nerf the nitro mods and reduce armor tank acceleration. militia nitros gives you wings. (redbull referance)
You are biased. Sad. trying to sound skillfull and full of knowlege but you deny tanks are Overpowered in 1.7 and say bringing back 1.6 to fight these tanks would be OP for AVers, while it would ONLY give us a fighting chance. Im done talking with you. you only know how to insult, but obviously know very little about this game OR balance, regardless of your time playing it.....
DUDE!!! WHY DON't YOU GET IT!!! WAIT TILL THE RESISTANCE IS OFFF!!! ITS LIKE HITTING A INSTALLATION WITH A PROTO ISKUKONE ASSAULT FG!! YES THEY NEED A SPEED NERF, I AM NOT DEFENDING THAT IN ANYWAY BUT WHY CAN't YOU GET IT THROUGH YOU THINK SKULL THAT YOU HAVE TO have PATIENCE.
You are obviously very unskillful at this game, you don't know when to strike and when to wait. AV requires skill now, adapt or die...
Sagaris lover!!!
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Benjamin Ciscko
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
321
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Posted - 2013.12.12 03:07:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Balance means 1 player will always have a chance to drop the OTHER player, regardless of sp,ISK invested, equipment chosen.
ALL FPS have this.
As it is , 1 Aver cant take on 1 tank. 1 tanker can take many Avers out.
There by, there is NO balance. simple as that.
If AV needs Teamwork , so should Tanking.
If you fail to see this, you are a scrub or a tanker. (or probably both)
A player with a GK.0 Logi and a duvolle has the ability to stomp new players not the right. I don't give a dam whether or not I have the right I want the ability
Tanker/Logi
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry. -Spkr4theDead
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1880
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Posted - 2013.12.12 03:07:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:
Dude, tanks are fine now expect a bit fast. I have no problem now but apparently noob Avers like PUS*Y CHECKMATE want tanks nerfed because he doesn't like to use his brain.. Hardners work wonders but when they are off, the only place you want to be is in the redline.. anyway Atiim, i could almost one hit you with a clip of XT-201 and my gunner would finish you off and ill be repping shiled while you shot me with blaster. You obviously went for the wrong tank. I didn't expect any better from a guy like you.
Hey, now I know your only 10 years old and all, but lets try to remain civil here.
I used Missile Launchers as my main weapon back in 1.6. Blaster Maddys were to "AR" for me.
And almost every HAV pilot who has ever crossed me has ended up with 6-18 volleys of Wyrikomi up his anal cavity. You couldn't handle seeing my best tank as a red because the second you tried to use your own tank is the second that I would have lolrailguned and SL'd you beyond your mental comprehension.
Though there is actually a funny story about how I ended up using Madrugars instead of Gunnlogies, but that's for a different thread.
DUST 514 just went full COD.
Never go full COD.
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KING CHECKMATE
Scions of Athra
3004
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Posted - 2013.12.12 03:11:00 -
[45] - Quote
Anmol Singh wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:
You want you OP Av back? Awww, look at poor you.
Nerf the nitro mods and reduce armor tank acceleration. militia nitros gives you wings. (redbull referance)
You are biased. Sad. trying to sound skillfull and full of knowlege but you deny tanks are Overpowered in 1.7 and say bringing back 1.6 to fight these tanks would be OP for AVers, while it would ONLY give us a fighting chance. Im done talking with you. you only know how to insult, but obviously know very little about this game OR balance, regardless of your time playing it..... DUDE!!! WHY DON't YOU GET IT!!! WAIT TILL THE RESISTANCE IS OFFF!!! ITS LIKE HITTING A INSTALLATION WITH A PROTO ISKUKONE ASSAULT FG!! YES THEY NEED A SPEED NERF, I AM NOT DEFENDING THAT IN ANYWAY BUT WHY CAN't YOU GET IT THROUGH YOU THINK SKULL THAT YOU HAVE TO have PATIENCE.
why dont you get it?
- . -
Before the resistance is gone, the tank is gone.
And even if the Afterburners get nerfed, they shouldnt even Exist.
A tank should never be able to move faster than an LAV.
Hell, tanks should move slightly FASTER than a HEAVY. AT MOST.
It defeats the Balancing aspect of games.
you can have two of these:
HP, SPeed , Firepower.
But never the 3 of them. tanks have all 3 of them. And even with an After burner nerf. They are still resistant enough, FAST enough to get away.Not to mention OLD MAPS that provide effective cover for tanks making AV'ing impossible.
Not to mention AV weapons that make AV impossible. Unless of course, you are Tower sniping.
Then again, talking BALANCE with a tanker after 1.7 will be impossible nevertheless. You are all deluded ALL of your vehicles are balanced now. Pfft. lol
SCR User Since release. Charge shot / Aim to the head / Listen to QQ
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Anmol Singh
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
477
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Posted - 2013.12.12 03:14:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:
Dude, tanks are fine now expect a bit fast. I have no problem now but apparently noob Avers like PUS*Y CHECKMATE want tanks nerfed because he doesn't like to use his brain.. Hardners work wonders but when they are off, the only place you want to be is in the redline.. anyway Atiim, i could almost one hit you with a clip of XT-201 and my gunner would finish you off and ill be repping shiled while you shot me with blaster. You obviously went for the wrong tank. I didn't expect any better from a guy like you.
Hey, now I know your only 10 years old and all, but lets try to remain civil here. I used Missile Launchers as my main weapon back in 1.6. Blaster Maddys were to "AR" for me. And almost every HAV pilot who has ever crossed me has ended up with 6-18 volleys of Wyrikomi up his anal cavity. You couldn't handle seeing my best tank as a red because the second you tried to use your own tank is the second that I would have lolrailguned and SL'd you beyond your mental comprehension. Though there is actually a funny story about how I ended up using Madrugars instead of Gunnlogies, but that's for a different thread.
Fixed it... Anyway, my age in anonymous, maybe im a 80 year old creeper who knows. And don't under estimate me at all. Many noobs have done so and they have been fked in the as*. I am very tactical and truth be told, i dont use tanks 24/7. I enjoy infantry combat and playing logistics. Im not going to tell you the secrets to being a true tanker but here's a helpful tip, Underestimate no one. You think you're so boss on the forums telling me that your going to lolrailgun me but you have no clue about my fit, anyway, I can keep resistance up forever execpt for like 4-5 seconds but how you gonna hurt me? i can even rep shield through your lol proto railgun shots and many armor tankers have seem my resistance go down only to know it was still there. LOL, your swarms are sh*t, they can't even hurt a fly.
Sagaris lover!!!
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Anmol Singh
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
477
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Posted - 2013.12.12 03:16:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:
You want you OP Av back? Awww, look at poor you.
Nerf the nitro mods and reduce armor tank acceleration. militia nitros gives you wings. (redbull referance)
You are biased. Sad. trying to sound skillfull and full of knowlege but you deny tanks are Overpowered in 1.7 and say bringing back 1.6 to fight these tanks would be OP for AVers, while it would ONLY give us a fighting chance. Im done talking with you. you only know how to insult, but obviously know very little about this game OR balance, regardless of your time playing it..... DUDE!!! WHY DON't YOU GET IT!!! WAIT TILL THE RESISTANCE IS OFFF!!! ITS LIKE HITTING A INSTALLATION WITH A PROTO ISKUKONE ASSAULT FG!! YES THEY NEED A SPEED NERF, I AM NOT DEFENDING THAT IN ANYWAY BUT WHY CAN't YOU GET IT THROUGH YOU THINK SKULL THAT YOU HAVE TO have PATIENCE. why dont you get it? - . - Before the resistance is gone, the tank is gone. And even if the Afterburners get nerfed, they shouldnt even Exist. A tank should never be able to move faster than an LAV.Hell, tanks should move slightly FASTER than a HEAVY. AT MOST.It defeats the Balancing aspect of games.you can have two of these: HP, SPeed , Firepower. But never the 3 of them. tanks have all 3 of them. And even with an After burner nerf. They are still resistant enough, FAST enough to get away.Not to mention OLD MAPS that provide effective cover for tanks making AV'ing impossible. Not to mention AV weapons that make AV impossible. Unless of course, you are Tower sniping. Then again, talking BALANCE with a tanker after 1.7 will be impossible nevertheless. You are all deluded ALL of your vehicles are balanced now. Pfft. lol
heavy runs at like 8 miles per hour, we are thousands of years into the future and tanks in 2013 can break 50 mph. Any way, the 300 km/h is not actually 300 km/h its like 150. Its just the acceleration you are not used to.
Sagaris lover!!!
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Anmol Singh
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
477
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Posted - 2013.12.12 03:18:00 -
[48] - Quote
KING CHECKMATE wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:
You want you OP Av back? Awww, look at poor you.
Nerf the nitro mods and reduce armor tank acceleration. militia nitros gives you wings. (redbull referance)
You are biased. Sad. trying to sound skillfull and full of knowlege but you deny tanks are Overpowered in 1.7 and say bringing back 1.6 to fight these tanks would be OP for AVers, while it would ONLY give us a fighting chance. Im done talking with you. you only know how to insult, but obviously know very little about this game OR balance, regardless of your time playing it..... DUDE!!! WHY DON't YOU GET IT!!! WAIT TILL THE RESISTANCE IS OFFF!!! ITS LIKE HITTING A INSTALLATION WITH A PROTO ISKUKONE ASSAULT FG!! YES THEY NEED A SPEED NERF, I AM NOT DEFENDING THAT IN ANYWAY BUT WHY CAN't YOU GET IT THROUGH YOU THINK SKULL THAT YOU HAVE TO have PATIENCE. why dont you get it? - . - Before the resistance is gone, the tank is gone. And even if the Afterburners get nerfed, they shouldnt even Exist. A tank should never be able to move faster than an LAV.Hell, tanks should move slightly FASTER than a HEAVY. AT MOST.It defeats the Balancing aspect of games.you can have two of these: HP, SPeed , Firepower. But never the 3 of them. tanks have all 3 of them. And even with an After burner nerf. They are still resistant enough, FAST enough to get away.Not to mention OLD MAPS that provide effective cover for tanks making AV'ing impossible. Not to mention AV weapons that make AV impossible. Unless of course, you are Tower sniping. Then again, talking BALANCE with a tanker after 1.7 will be impossible nevertheless. You are all deluded ALL of your vehicles are balanced now. Pfft. lol
Logis can have HP, firepower. they don't have speed. Tanks now don't have HP.. they don't, they have resistance. And when it goes down, the tank goes down. Your just too stupid to know that.
Sagaris lover!!!
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Cosgar
ParagonX
8557
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Posted - 2013.12.12 03:18:00 -
[49] - Quote
KING CHECKMATE wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:
You want you OP Av back? Awww, look at poor you.
Nerf the nitro mods and reduce armor tank acceleration. militia nitros gives you wings. (redbull referance)
You are biased. Sad. trying to sound skillfull and full of knowlege but you deny tanks are Overpowered in 1.7 and say bringing back 1.6 to fight these tanks would be OP for AVers, while it would ONLY give us a fighting chance. Im done talking with you. you only know how to insult, but obviously know very little about this game OR balance, regardless of your time playing it.....
Tanks are actually weaker than 1.0-1.7. AVers are just expecting to get the same results from half assed effort when Blam! "rebalanced" vehicles for Uprising. Wait for modules go into cooldown and they'll go down faster than Lindsay Lohan in need of a fix.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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Joel II X
Lo-Tech Solutions Ltd
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Posted - 2013.12.12 03:20:00 -
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ITT: Rage tanks rage skills rage rage rage your mom.
Tanks shouldn't be this fast and AV shouldn't be this weak. This is my opinion. Give me back my 330 damage swarms and SOME of my range back. Heck, I'd even settle for 300 dmg per swarm and 200-250 (maybe) range. AV is useless unless there'sa full squad of Forge Guns taking down a single tank or hell even a dropship now. |
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Anmol Singh
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
477
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Posted - 2013.12.12 03:21:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:
You want you OP Av back? Awww, look at poor you.
Nerf the nitro mods and reduce armor tank acceleration. militia nitros gives you wings. (redbull referance)
You are biased. Sad. trying to sound skillfull and full of knowlege but you deny tanks are Overpowered in 1.7 and say bringing back 1.6 to fight these tanks would be OP for AVers, while it would ONLY give us a fighting chance. Im done talking with you. you only know how to insult, but obviously know very little about this game OR balance, regardless of your time playing it..... Tanks are actually weaker than 1.0-1.7. AVers are just expecting to get the same results from half assed effort when Blam! "rebalanced" vehicles for Uprising. Wait for modules go into cooldown and they'll go down faster than Lindsay Lohan in need of a fix.
I tried, LOLKING CHECKMATE just cannot accept that times are different and its time to find a new tactic. Cosgar, its pointless to teach the people who are not willing to adapt so let them die out.
Sagaris lover!!!
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Benjamin Ciscko
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
323
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Posted - 2013.12.12 03:22:00 -
[52] - Quote
Cosgar wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:
You want you OP Av back? Awww, look at poor you.
Nerf the nitro mods and reduce armor tank acceleration. militia nitros gives you wings. (redbull referance)
You are biased. Sad. trying to sound skillfull and full of knowlege but you deny tanks are Overpowered in 1.7 and say bringing back 1.6 to fight these tanks would be OP for AVers, while it would ONLY give us a fighting chance. Im done talking with you. you only know how to insult, but obviously know very little about this game OR balance, regardless of your time playing it..... Tanks are actually weaker than 1.0-1.7. AVers are just expecting to get the same results from half assed effort when Blam! "rebalanced" vehicles for Uprising. Wait for modules go into cooldown and they'll go down faster than Lindsay Lohan in need of a fix.
It's quite simple tank with mods off IAFG pops in three shots IAFG vs. tank with mods on HAV pilot yawns.
Tanker/Logi
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry. -Spkr4theDead
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KING CHECKMATE
Scions of Athra
3007
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Posted - 2013.12.12 03:23:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:
heavy runs at like 8 miles per hour, we are thousands of years into the future and tanks in 2013 can break 50 mph. Any way, the 300 km/h is not actually 300 km/h its like 150. Its just the acceleration you are not used to.
we are thousands of years into the future and AV in 2013 can 1HKO TANKS
your point being..........
?
SCR User Since release. Charge shot / Aim to the head / Listen to QQ
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Anmol Singh
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
477
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Posted - 2013.12.12 03:25:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:
heavy runs at like 8 miles per hour, we are thousands of years into the future and tanks in 2013 can break 50 mph. Any way, the 300 km/h is not actually 300 km/h its like 150. Its just the acceleration you are not used to.
we are thousands of years into the future and AV in 2013 can 1HKO TANKSyour point being.......... ?
We are thousands of years in the future in a video game. FY!- javelin costs A lot. don't get me started with the real tanks vs real Av.
Sagaris lover!!!
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KING CHECKMATE
Scions of Athra
3007
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Posted - 2013.12.12 03:27:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:
heavy runs at like 8 miles per hour, we are thousands of years into the future and tanks in 2013 can break 50 mph. Any way, the 300 km/h is not actually 300 km/h its like 150. Its just the acceleration you are not used to.
we are thousands of years into the future and AV in 2013 can 1HKO TANKSyour point being.......... ? We are thousands of years in the future in a video game. FY!- javelin costs A lot. don't get me started with the real tanks vs real Av.
So let me get this straight. you bring up REAL tank speed in the conversation.
I cannot bring out REAL AV power,because you get mad?
see?
this is the kind of person that has the game in its current state...
getting BACK to the GAME: FOR BALANCE SAKE, tanks need to be Slow... Slightly faster than heavies. Achieving Assault class SPEED while with afterburners (if they are to be left)
There is NO threat to a tank if after their resistances are down he can flee.
No disadvantage at all.
SCR User Since release. Charge shot / Aim to the head / Listen to QQ
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Anmol Singh
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
478
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Posted - 2013.12.12 03:32:00 -
[56] - Quote
KING CHECKMATE wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:
heavy runs at like 8 miles per hour, we are thousands of years into the future and tanks in 2013 can break 50 mph. Any way, the 300 km/h is not actually 300 km/h its like 150. Its just the acceleration you are not used to.
we are thousands of years into the future and AV in 2013 can 1HKO TANKSyour point being.......... ? We are thousands of years in the future in a video game. FY!- javelin costs A lot. don't get me started with the real tanks vs real Av. So let me get this straight. you bring up REAL tank speed in the conversation. I cannot bring out REAL AV power,because you get mad? see? this is the kind of person that has the game in its current state... getting BACK to the GAME: FOR BALANCE SAKE, tanks need to be Slow... Slightly faster than heavies. Achieving Assault class SPEED while with afterburners (if they are to be left) There is NO threat to a tank if after their resistances are down he can flee. No disadvantage at all.
Would you like me to bring up real tank statistics and how they can snipe infantry from miles and miles away and never miss? they can littrally sit there on a hill in a distant area and get a kill every time the large turret is reloaded.
Also- dude, im saying tanks need a speed nerf, im on the same page as you, they can flee, they are OP! yes yes yes ok wtf you want? im done? go be a noob try to get 1.6 back if you cannot put in the effort of adapting. We tanks adapted to your OP AV, we QQed did anything get fixed? yeah after 6 months... Now YOU HTFU AND BE UNDER MY TRACKS FOR 6 months.
Sagaris lover!!!
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Cosgar
ParagonX
8560
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Posted - 2013.12.12 03:35:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:
heavy runs at like 8 miles per hour, we are thousands of years into the future and tanks in 2013 can break 50 mph. Any way, the 300 km/h is not actually 300 km/h its like 150. Its just the acceleration you are not used to.
we are thousands of years into the future and AV in 2013 can 1HKO TANKSyour point being.......... ? We are thousands of years in the future in a video game. FY!- javelin costs A lot. don't get me started with the real tanks vs real Av. So let me get this straight. you bring up REAL tank speed in the conversation. I cannot bring out REAL AV power,because you get mad? see? this is the kind of person that has the game in its current state... getting BACK to the GAME: FOR BALANCE SAKE, tanks need to be Slow... Slightly faster than heavies. Achieving Assault class SPEED while with afterburners (if they are to be left) There is NO threat to a tank if after their resistances are down he can flee. No disadvantage at all.
Tanks actually aren't much faster than before, it's their torque that got a major buff. Also, I'm willing to bet ISK that their speed torque was buffed in preparation for tackling.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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Anmol Singh
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
478
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Posted - 2013.12.12 03:37:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:
heavy runs at like 8 miles per hour, we are thousands of years into the future and tanks in 2013 can break 50 mph. Any way, the 300 km/h is not actually 300 km/h its like 150. Its just the acceleration you are not used to.
we are thousands of years into the future and AV in 2013 can 1HKO TANKSyour point being.......... ? We are thousands of years in the future in a video game. FY!- javelin costs A lot. don't get me started with the real tanks vs real Av. So let me get this straight. you bring up REAL tank speed in the conversation. I cannot bring out REAL AV power,because you get mad? see? this is the kind of person that has the game in its current state... getting BACK to the GAME: FOR BALANCE SAKE, tanks need to be Slow... Slightly faster than heavies. Achieving Assault class SPEED while with afterburners (if they are to be left) There is NO threat to a tank if after their resistances are down he can flee. No disadvantage at all. Tanks actually aren't much faster than before, it's their torque that got a major buff. Also, I'm willing to bet ISK that their speed torque was buffed in preparation for tackling.
Except for the militia nitros! But whats tackling?
Sagaris lover!!!
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Cosgar
ParagonX
8562
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Posted - 2013.12.12 03:39:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Except for the militia nitros! But whats tackling?
In EVE, ships have electronic warfare modules that can scramble a ships warp and slow them down. It's one of the things Dust needs for both infantry and vehicles.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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KING CHECKMATE
Scions of Athra
3012
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Posted - 2013.12.12 03:44:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:
Would you like me to bring up real tank statistics and how they can snipe infantry from miles and miles away and never miss? they can littrally sit there on a hill in a distant area and get a kill every time the large turret is reloaded.
Also- dude, im saying tanks need a speed nerf, im on the same page as you, they can flee, they are OP! yes yes yes ok wtf you want? im done? go be a noob try to get 1.6 back if you cannot put in the effort of adapting. We tanks adapted to your OP AV, we QQed did anything get fixed? yeah after 6 months... Now YOU HTFU AND BE UNDER MY TRACKS FOR 6 months.
LOl cant even keep your cool.
I agree, tanks need a speed nerf.
But also a Hardener NErf.
They should take damage EVEN with hardeners on, the purpose of hardeners is to diminish damage, not make vehicles in general Invulerable to AV fire. I mean, i had a DS take on 4 Kaalakiota FG shots to the face and lived to drop the dudes, then let me charge, shoot him ONCE more , and then decide to leave, laughing.
THATS NOT BALANCE.
''We tanks adapted to your OP AV''
You tanks DID NOT adapt to our AV weaponry.Dont bulls*t a bullsh*ter. You QQ'd until it got nerfed. you CRIED endlessly EVERY SINGLE DAY here in the forums until it got nerfed. No one ''ADAPTED'' , Vehcile users dont know the meaning of the word...
then Got lucky CCP usually fu**s up stuff rather frequently with OP HArdeners and Broken Afterburners.
And BTW, im sorry to burst your bubble. But, i do have 4 mill i had saved for shield tanks....so , instead of me being under my tracks, you will be under mine...
SCR User Since release. Charge shot / Aim to the head / Listen to QQ
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danthrax martin
Butcher's Nails
14
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Posted - 2013.12.12 03:45:00 -
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Patience is key, i taken out 3 guns and 5 mads today with just cbr7
Soldiers Blue in the barren waste, hunting and killing their game.
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Anmol Singh
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
480
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Posted - 2013.12.12 03:54:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:
Would you like me to bring up real tank statistics and how they can snipe infantry from miles and miles away and never miss? they can littrally sit there on a hill in a distant area and get a kill every time the large turret is reloaded.
Also- dude, im saying tanks need a speed nerf, im on the same page as you, they can flee, they are OP! yes yes yes ok wtf you want? im done? go be a noob try to get 1.6 back if you cannot put in the effort of adapting. We tanks adapted to your OP AV, we QQed did anything get fixed? yeah after 6 months... Now YOU HTFU AND BE UNDER MY TRACKS FOR 6 months.
LOl cant even keep your cool. I agree, tanks need a speed nerf. But also a Hardener NErf. They should take damage EVEN with hardeners on, the purpose of hardeners is to diminish damage, not make vehicles in general Invulerable to AV fire. I mean, i had a DS take on 4 Kaalakiota FG shots to the face and lived to drop the dudes, then let me charge, shoot him ONCE more , and then decide to leave, laughing. THATS NOT BALANCE. ''We tanks adapted to your OP AV''You tanks DID NOT adapt to our AV weaponry.Dont bulls*t a bullsh*ter. You QQ'd until it got nerfed. you CRIED endlessly EVERY SINGLE DAY here in the forums until it got nerfed. No one ''ADAPTED'' , Vehcile users dont know the meaning of the word... then Got lucky CCP usually fu**s up stuff rather frequently with OP HArdeners and Broken Afterburners. And BTW, im sorry to burst your bubble. But, i do have 4 mill i had saved for shield tanks....so , instead of me being under my tracks, you will be under mine...
DUDE, we lost 2 slots out of our tanks so now we have one really good hardener except 3 semi-good ones! we lost some HP aswell, what more do you need.? Anyway, its those pesky armor tanks that can keep repping 300 armor a second. I'm losing my cool cuz im sleepy. Papa bear needs a nap.
his resistance was on, my resistance was off when i got 2 shotted in my 500k isk python by proto FG...
FYI- we Adapted for 6 months, we didn't quit we adapted and made it work. Personally i dislike the new tanks, they are not fun for me but i like AV nerfs. I think 1.6 + Av nerfs of now = balance.
Sagaris lover!!!
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Flix Keptick
Red Star.
EoN.
1530
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Posted - 2013.12.12 04:59:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Flix Keptick wrote:Because Patrick57 is right. Besides, infantry still does most of the killing on the battlefield. Can't kill a tank? hide from it!!! (or jihad lav it, your choice) Jihad LAV it huh? Funny how I tried that, and now I decided to visit the forums because I can't play FW until downtime. And I don't like PUBs. Hide from it? Not every map is a city, and what happens when your on a map like Manus Peak?
Snipe? Idk lol, figure it out. I was actually destroyed by two forgeguners earlier who caught me with my modules in cooldown.
An other piece of advice: dont use swarms vs shield tank, its useless. Use a plasma cannon instead (they can actually pack quite a punch vs shield tanks).
"HP needs no buff, certain weapons need nerf. Or else all other become obsolete."
GÿåForum warrior lvl.1Gÿå
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1918
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Posted - 2013.12.12 22:09:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Atiim wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:
BTW. Atiim, your awful at this game... You are not a tanker... you never will be... you are a true infantry man at heart.
If you don't think that I am a tanker, then your eyes do truly betray you. You have seen my tank before yet refuse to believe that I am a tanker. Open your eyes and admit that you were wrong already. I am a true everything at heart. I love everything in this game with all of my tiny, immortal heart. Which is exactly why I use these forums. So I could achieve balance between everyone and everything. You are a tanker? hmmm... ill consider it but you do know that none of the other tankers on the forums see you as a tanker aswell...
Well the other tankers here are hypocrites who want to be able to stomp everything without resistance and cry like a little CoD scrub when they can't.
The other tankers here also want AV to use teamwork, but don't want to use teamwork themselves. This is why I get a slight chuckle everytime I read Spkr4TheDead's signature.
The other tankers here have also screwed themselves for all eternity, because you and I both know that HAVs will be getting nerfed soon. And because of this CCP will think twice before ever giving them a buff.
Until then, I'll be rolling in my Sica for less than my dropsuit, while doing 2x better.
Sicas and Somas all around. Well maybe not the Soma. That things uglier than Amarr suits. And that's ugly.
DUST 514 just went full COD.
Never go full COD.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1918
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Posted - 2013.12.12 22:13:00 -
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Flix Keptick wrote:Atiim wrote:Flix Keptick wrote:Because Patrick57 is right. Besides, infantry still does most of the killing on the battlefield. Can't kill a tank? hide from it!!! (or jihad lav it, your choice) Jihad LAV it huh? Funny how I tried that, and now I decided to visit the forums because I can't play FW until downtime. And I don't like PUBs. Hide from it? Not every map is a city, and what happens when your on a map like Manus Peak? Snipe? Idk lol, figure it out. I was actually destroyed by two forgeguners earlier who caught me with my modules in cooldown. An other piece of advice: dont use swarms vs shield tank, its useless. Use a plasma cannon instead (they can actually pack quite a punch vs shield tanks).
I've actually become quite well with PLCs over the past few months.
But no. I and nobody will use AV. We will all use Sicas that have more damage and range while also costing less than our AV weapons. And the best part is that I no longer have to worry about infantry at the same time.
LOL Why would I use AV? It really pays to be a pilot with AV sometimes.
Keep digging your hole buddy.
DUST 514 just went full COD.
Never go full COD.
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Knight Soiaire
BurgezzE.T.F
Public Disorder.
3753
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Posted - 2013.12.12 22:13:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Patrick57 wrote:
Play PC
Oh, wait.....
Another one? You can't balance everything off of one gamemode. Not everyone plays PC, so why should everything be balanced around it? Also, I do play PC. In fact I helped Days Of Ruin get their first district not too long ago.
Then maybe we should wait for match making to be fixed, because Pubs are just jokes right now.
Buff Shotguns
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The Attorney General
1623
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Posted - 2013.12.12 22:14:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Why not just make piloting an HAV require teamwork?
I mean AV currently requires teamwork right?
Why not?
AV does not require teamwork.
Solo AV work requires two things:
Patience
Intelligence
This pretty much excludes every single person who specced deep into swarms. Scrubs don't think, and they certainly can't fathom the idea of attacking at an opportune moment instead of whenever you see the tank.
Anyone who complains about tanks now is just too stupid, or too hasty to get the job done.
So, HTFU, and maybe STFU. The S means "smarten" not shut. Figured you would need to be told that.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1918
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Posted - 2013.12.12 22:19:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Atiim wrote:Why not just make piloting an HAV require teamwork?
I mean AV currently requires teamwork right?
Why not? AV does not require teamwork. Solo AV work requires two things: Patience Intelligence This pretty much excludes every single person who specced deep into swarms. Scrubs don't think, and they certainly can't fathom the idea of attacking at an opportune moment instead of whenever you see the tank. Anyone who complains about tanks now is just too stupid, or too hasty to get the job done. So, HTFU, and maybe STFU. The S means "smarten" not shut. Figured you would need to be told that.
And HAVs require:
........
Anyways, yeah bring the STFU and HTFU! Come on dude I expected way better than that. Can you attempt to think of something better?
Why complain? If you can't beat them, join them. And then abuse them to the point where they get nerfed so bad that pilots will be begging for 1.7 back.
Heck, I declare a "Tank War". Every match I'll call out MLT vehicles for everyone who wants one, just to see how good MLT vehicles really are.
One gets popped? Eh. I'll just call out two more.
Tanks! Tanks! Taaaaannnnnnkkkkkkssss!
DUST 514 just went full COD.
Never go full COD.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1918
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Posted - 2013.12.12 22:20:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:
Then maybe we should wait for match making to be fixed, because Pubs are just jokes right now.
LOL
If you won't balance something for a game mode and allow it to be broken in said gamemode, then don't allow the item to be in said game mode.
This goes for everything, including vehicles.
DUST 514 just went full COD.
Never go full COD.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1918
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Posted - 2013.12.12 22:21:00 -
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danthrax martin wrote:Patience is key, i taken out 3 guns and 5 mads today with just cbr7
Thanks, now answer the question.
Should HAVs require teamwork?
If no, then why not.
DUST 514 just went full COD.
Never go full COD.
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