DUST Search - Teamwork For One, And Teamwork For All.

Anmol Singh wrote:

9 mil sp, 2.5 mil isk, experience since i started dust 514, can i survive a 47k isk 900k sp foregun? barley (1.6). Any way, you are really fking stupid for shooting at a tank with resistance up. And you assume driving a tank worth millions (shield in 1.6) and taking down madrugars was unskillful, you think driving away form danger was unskillful. I am incapable of taking on Proto forgeguns, so when i know hes there, i run away and wait for him to be killed and let all the infantry think i left so they put away their AV and i come back and own them. Tanks take tremendous skill especially knowing that your opponent has an advantage over you all the fking time.

1 thing i leaned from your post. You are a dumb ass who shoots at tanks that have resistance up!! GOD DAM I HATE IT WHEN BASTARDS LIKE YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT TANKS BEING IMMORTAL. They are not immortal- all it takes is a sica. Or getting the right chance. Yes i agree tanks need a speed nerf but other than that, they are working as intended (active tanks who cannot sit in a position for prolonged periods of time)


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Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1866	Posted - 2013.12.12 01:26:00 - [1] - Quote Why not just make piloting an HAV require teamwork? I mean AV currently requires teamwork right? Why not? DUST 514 just went full COD. Never go full COD.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1867	Posted - 2013.12.12 01:29:00 - [2] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Because Tanks are what Heavies should be like. It should take more than one person to take down both a tank and a Heavy. Bro, do you even CreoDron Shotgun? Or Scout? DUST 514 just went full COD. Never go full COD.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1867	Posted - 2013.12.12 01:34:00 - [3] - Quote Flix Keptick wrote: Because Patrick57 is right. Besides, infantry still does most of the killing on the battlefield. Can't kill a tank? hide from it!!! (or jihad lav it, your choice) Jihad LAV it huh? Funny how I tried that, and now I decided to visit the forums because I can't play FW until downtime. And I don't like PUBs. Hide from it? Not every map is a city, and what happens when your on a map like Manus Peak? DUST 514 just went full COD. Never go full COD.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1867	Posted - 2013.12.12 01:35:00 - [4] - Quote Long Evity wrote: Atiim wrote: Why not just make piloting an HAV require teamwork? I mean AV currently requires teamwork right? Why not? This thread sucks, mines better. I haven't read your thread, but okay. DUST 514 just went full COD. Never go full COD.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1867	Posted - 2013.12.12 01:38:00 - [5] - Quote Flix Keptick wrote: Atiim wrote: Patrick57 wrote: Because Tanks are what Heavies should be like. It should take more than one person to take down both a tank and a Heavy. Bro, do you even CreoDron Shotgun? Or Scout? Bro, do you even Dust 514? One does not simply "Dust 514". Being able to "Dust 514" would imply that this game is actually different and beyond your average lobby FPS shooter with a TTK faster than your joystick can rotate. And what's the problem? As long as the heavy isn't using an AR or SCR I can usually handle them with my ADV suit. Just simply go behind them and move behind him constantly as he turns around. DUST 514 just went full COD. Never go full COD.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1873	Posted - 2013.12.12 01:39:00 - [6] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: Atiim wrote: Patrick57 wrote: Because Tanks are what Heavies should be like. It should take more than one person to take down both a tank and a Heavy. Bro, do you even CreoDron Shotgun? Or Scout? You just proved his point. How? It only takes one good scout to kill a heavy. DUST 514 just went full COD. Never go full COD.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1873	Posted - 2013.12.12 01:40:00 - [7] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Because Tanks are what Heavies should be like. It should take more than one person to take down both a tank and a Heavy. Also, heavies require teamwork to be successful. See: Logistics DUST 514 just went full COD. Never go full COD.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1873	Posted - 2013.12.12 01:43:00 - [8] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Play PC Oh, wait..... Another one? You can't balance everything off of one gamemode. Not everyone plays PC, so why should everything be balanced around it? Also, I do play PC. In fact I helped Days Of Ruin get their first district not too long ago. DUST 514 just went full COD. Never go full COD.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1878	Posted - 2013.12.12 01:56:00 - [9] - Quote Long Evity wrote: Atiim wrote: Long Evity wrote: Atiim wrote: Why not just make piloting an HAV require teamwork? I mean AV currently requires teamwork right? Why not? This thread sucks, mines better. I haven't read your thread, but okay. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=127728&find=unread And stop talking about infantry, only bad heavies get solo'd by scouts. And your lack of PC does indeed hurt your validity of your opinions. But i'm sure you'll find support from other players who dont PC and find it wrong. I wouldn't say lack of PC. I'd put it more as "Got sick and tired of the 5 FPS and lollag and don't play it as much anymore". And to be fair, 99.999999999999% of this game's playerbase are filled with bad players. How else could you explain the atrocity known as FW Blueberries? And I do still play PC. Just not as much anymore. DUST 514 just went full COD. Never go full COD.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1878	Posted - 2013.12.12 02:02:00 - [10] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Atiim wrote: I wouldn't say lack of PC. I'd put it more as "Got sick and tired of the 5 FPS and lollag and don't play it as much anymore". And to be fair, 99.999999999999% of this game's playerbase are filled with bad players. How else could you explain the atrocity known as FW Blueberries? And I do still play PC. Just not as much anymore. Who did you play against when you weren't "sick and tired" of PC? I did some work for D3LTA back when I was with them, but I got tired of PC around the time where I decided to split. Ever since me and my friends made [SSQP] I haven't played PC besides my work for Days Of Ruin. Is there a point to your question? Or are you one of those "leul ur K/D is lower than mine, STFU and get gud nub" kind of people? [edit] Not sure on who I was fighting back in D3LTA (So long ago lol) But when I was working for DOR I was mainly fighting Planetary Retaliation Organization. DOR needed my help because they decided to field some ringers from Ahrendee Mercenaries. DUST 514 just went full COD. Never go full COD.

Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1878	Posted - 2013.12.12 02:07:00 - [11] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: Totally, make my tank 50k isk and sure... in 1.6, a 9mil sp player with a 2.5 mil isk tank with lots of tanking experience gets killed by one 47k isk 900k sp proto Fg that can see the whole map cuz the bch camps on tower... If thats balance then i quit! Your tank already costs 97,500k ISK. My best AV suit is double the price. If you can't be soloed, then you shouldn't be able to run solo. If you can be soloed, then you should be able to run solo. But if you quit, I can has your ISK? DUST 514 just went full COD. Never go full COD.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1879	Posted - 2013.12.12 02:33:00 - [12] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: EVERY FPS DOESN'T HAVE A FKING ECONOMY!!! WHEN WE DIES IN BF4, IT MEANS NOTHING, NO HARM DONE BUT IN DUST ITS DIFFERENT. I THOUGH A GUY LIKE YOU WOULD KNOW BUT IT TURNS OUT YOU'RE A COMPLETE DUMB ASS. Why does it take 0 skill to kill with an AR but a lot of skill to actually pilot a tank? A militia AR is very effective but why aren't militia tanks(1.6). Why do tanks cost so much? they get blown up in like a clip of a proto FG (not me but most new player) why does it take 2 volley of proto swams to kill a soma. These people stand no chance against proto AV and it takes tremendous skill to even pilot a tank. Anyway, who the fk said they wanted you? What "skill" does piloting an HAV have? Do you mean SP? I mad a Sica that can hold it's own against PRO AV with 0 SP investment. Do you mean actual skill? Using an HAV requires the same "skill" as an AR. The Assault Rifles are completely broken through all tiers, so that analogy is not credible. Use a different MLT Weapon as your example. ' It doesn't take two volleys of PRO swarms to destroy a Soma anymore. And you think new infantry stand a chance against a good player? And if they are in a PRO suit? New players shouldn't be babied to the point where they can withstand and even the best players. What you just said is like saying "Those new players should stand a good chance against 16 people from TeamPlayers, Imperfects, Fatal Absolution, Nyain San, Molon Labe, Ahrendee Mercenaries, NAO, SCAIT, Science For Death, and other corps that have good players in them. And nobody wanted or even needed you here either. You have no concept of balance and would like nothing more than a new release of Tank 514: The Uprising. You don't even attempt to come up with ideas on how to balance things, so why you would criticize anyone is well beyond my comprehension. DUST 514 just went full COD. Never go full COD.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1880	Posted - 2013.12.12 02:54:00 - [13] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: 9 mil sp, 2.5 mil isk, experience since i started dust 514, can i survive a 47k isk 900k sp foregun? barley (1.6). Any way, you are really fking stupid for shooting at a tank with resistance up. And you assume driving a tank worth millions (shield in 1.6) and taking down madrugars was unskillful, you think driving away form danger was unskillful. I am incapable of taking on Proto forgeguns, so when i know hes there, i run away and wait for him to be killed and let all the infantry think i left so they put away their AV and i come back and own them. Tanks take tremendous skill especially knowing that your opponent has an advantage over you all the fking time. 1 thing i leaned from your post. You are a dumb ass who shoots at tanks that have resistance up!! GOD DAM I HATE IT WHEN BASTARDS LIKE YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT TANKS BEING IMMORTAL. They are not immortal- all it takes is a sica. Or getting the right chance. Yes i agree tanks need a speed nerf but other than that, they are working as intended (active tanks who cannot sit in a position for prolonged periods of time) Stop complaining about HAVs in 1.6. Does this look like 1.6 to you? (Well, maybe cosmetic wise; but still) When an AV guy was attacking me, I activated what was called "Carapace Armor Hardners" and "Nitrous" to escape with plenty of HP left. Maybe you should have used these. They work wonders ya know. And even without the whole lolnitrous, HAVs are still fast enough to escape easily with little to no harm or risk whatsoever. And the whole "aura" that surrounds an HAV when it's hardners are active don't even render past 15m. Even SLs rendered past 15m. HAVs require no skill beyond that of the AR. Please tell me how they do. I love ripping pilots a new. DUST 514 just went full COD. Never go full COD.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1880	Posted - 2013.12.12 03:00:00 - [14] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: BTW. Atiim, your awful at this game... You are not a tanker... you never will be... you are a true infantry man at heart. If you don't think that I am a tanker, then your eyes do truly betray you. You have seen my tank before yet refuse to believe that I am a tanker. Open your eyes and admit that you were wrong already. I am a true everything at heart. I love everything in this game with all of my tiny, immortal heart. Which is exactly why I use these forums. So I could achieve balance between everyone and everything. DUST 514 just went full COD. Never go full COD.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1880	Posted - 2013.12.12 03:07:00 - [15] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: Dude, tanks are fine now expect a bit fast. I have no problem now but apparently noob Avers like PUS*Y CHECKMATE want tanks nerfed because he doesn't like to use his brain.. Hardners work wonders but when they are off, the only place you want to be is in the redline.. anyway Atiim, i could almost one hit you with a clip of XT-201 and my gunner would finish you off and ill be repping shiled while you shot me with blaster. You obviously went for the wrong tank. I didn't expect any better from a guy like you. Hey, now I know your only 10 years old and all, but lets try to remain civil here. I used Missile Launchers as my main weapon back in 1.6. Blaster Maddys were to "AR" for me. And almost every HAV pilot who has ever crossed me has ended up with 6-18 volleys of Wyrikomi up his anal cavity. You couldn't handle seeing my best tank as a red because the second you tried to use your own tank is the second that I would have lolrailguned and SL'd you beyond your mental comprehension. Though there is actually a funny story about how I ended up using Madrugars instead of Gunnlogies, but that's for a different thread. DUST 514 just went full COD. Never go full COD.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1918	Posted - 2013.12.12 22:09:00 - [16] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: Atiim wrote: Anmol Singh wrote: BTW. Atiim, your awful at this game... You are not a tanker... you never will be... you are a true infantry man at heart. If you don't think that I am a tanker, then your eyes do truly betray you. You have seen my tank before yet refuse to believe that I am a tanker. Open your eyes and admit that you were wrong already. I am a true everything at heart. I love everything in this game with all of my tiny, immortal heart. Which is exactly why I use these forums. So I could achieve balance between everyone and everything. You are a tanker? hmmm... ill consider it but you do know that none of the other tankers on the forums see you as a tanker aswell... Well the other tankers here are hypocrites who want to be able to stomp everything without resistance and cry like a little CoD scrub when they can't. The other tankers here also want AV to use teamwork, but don't want to use teamwork themselves. This is why I get a slight chuckle everytime I read Spkr4TheDead's signature. The other tankers here have also screwed themselves for all eternity, because you and I both know that HAVs will be getting nerfed soon. And because of this CCP will think twice before ever giving them a buff. Until then, I'll be rolling in my Sica for less than my dropsuit, while doing 2x better. Sicas and Somas all around. Well maybe not the Soma. That things uglier than Amarr suits. And that's ugly. DUST 514 just went full COD. Never go full COD.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1918	Posted - 2013.12.12 22:13:00 - [17] - Quote Flix Keptick wrote: Atiim wrote: Flix Keptick wrote: Because Patrick57 is right. Besides, infantry still does most of the killing on the battlefield. Can't kill a tank? hide from it!!! (or jihad lav it, your choice) Jihad LAV it huh? Funny how I tried that, and now I decided to visit the forums because I can't play FW until downtime. And I don't like PUBs. Hide from it? Not every map is a city, and what happens when your on a map like Manus Peak? Snipe? Idk lol, figure it out. I was actually destroyed by two forgeguners earlier who caught me with my modules in cooldown. An other piece of advice: dont use swarms vs shield tank, its useless. Use a plasma cannon instead (they can actually pack quite a punch vs shield tanks). I've actually become quite well with PLCs over the past few months. But no. I and nobody will use AV. We will all use Sicas that have more damage and range while also costing less than our AV weapons. And the best part is that I no longer have to worry about infantry at the same time. LOL Why would I use AV? It really pays to be a pilot with AV sometimes. Keep digging your hole buddy. DUST 514 just went full COD. Never go full COD.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1918	Posted - 2013.12.12 22:19:00 - [18] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Atiim wrote: Why not just make piloting an HAV require teamwork? I mean AV currently requires teamwork right? Why not? AV does not require teamwork. Solo AV work requires two things: Patience Intelligence This pretty much excludes every single person who specced deep into swarms. Scrubs don't think, and they certainly can't fathom the idea of attacking at an opportune moment instead of whenever you see the tank. Anyone who complains about tanks now is just too stupid, or too hasty to get the job done. So, HTFU, and maybe STFU. The S means "smarten" not shut. Figured you would need to be told that. And HAVs require: ........ Anyways, yeah bring the STFU and HTFU! Come on dude I expected way better than that. Can you attempt to think of something better? Why complain? If you can't beat them, join them. And then abuse them to the point where they get nerfed so bad that pilots will be begging for 1.7 back. Heck, I declare a "Tank War". Every match I'll call out MLT vehicles for everyone who wants one, just to see how good MLT vehicles really are. One gets popped? Eh. I'll just call out two more. Tanks! Tanks! Taaaaannnnnnkkkkkkssss! DUST 514 just went full COD. Never go full COD.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1918	Posted - 2013.12.12 22:20:00 - [19] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: Then maybe we should wait for match making to be fixed, because Pubs are just jokes right now. LOL If you won't balance something for a game mode and allow it to be broken in said gamemode, then don't allow the item to be in said game mode. This goes for everything, including vehicles. DUST 514 just went full COD. Never go full COD.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1918	Posted - 2013.12.12 22:21:00 - [20] - Quote danthrax martin wrote: Patience is key, i taken out 3 guns and 5 mads today with just cbr7 Thanks, now answer the question. Should HAVs require teamwork? If no, then why not. DUST 514 just went full COD. Never go full COD.